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Sanguinia posted:So all that matters is that the show's ratings improve? And it matters so much that making a profit, putting on a quality product, paying your employees, and providing for the health and safety of your performers should take a backseat so they can focus exclusively on retaining viewers for the first seven minutes? I'd say it's completely ridiculous, but apparently the network was genuinely pissed to the point of cancelling all the extra programming they gave them 5 months ago because they only got 1/3 of the viewing audience from Spike (which for them is loving phenomenal), so there's nothing about this whole situation that isn't completely ridiculous
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TNA's advertisers used to be BBW dating websites, batteries, and the insurance company that paid to get their name on the ring apron The quality of their ads has gone down considerably since then. A cult used to advertise on destination america's TNA
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I just don't know what the hell DA thought they were getting. At least Spike is on every basic cable package and backed by Viacom. DA is on one of those super elite packages you only get because the cable company promised a free month of HBO and you figure why not, and then you're stuck with an extra 200 channels you'll never watch.
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oatgan posted:A cult used to advertise on destination america's TNA Holy poo poo, what zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 01:55 on May 16, 2015 |
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RZApublican posted:Holy poo poo, what this is the website http://www.eckankar.org/Masters/index.html
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You know what I do on Wednesdays? it's comic book day. Not wrestling day. Who the gently caress watches wrestling when there's perfectly good comics to read?
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oatgan posted:this ad used to run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg92rT6qgv8 Mods, please namechange me to Fubbi Quantz. Also when is ECKANKAR gonna validate the American Maitreya, Dan Quinn. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 02:00 on May 16, 2015 |
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coconono posted:You know what I do on Wednesdays? it's comic book day. Not wrestling day. Pfft, comic books are for nerds *watches wrestling dragons and ninja skeletons and magic medallions that grant literal immortality*
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TNA should repackage James Storm as ECKANKAR for a cool product tie in
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How you doin' Kata Daki?
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Benne posted:How many households does El Rey have compared to DA? I'd love to see the TNAMecca meltdown if Lucha Underground does better ratings than Impact on Wednesday nights. Lucha Underground gets about 35,000 viewers on Wednesdays.
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MassRafTer posted:Lucha Underground gets about 35,000 viewers on Wednesdays. For all the poo poo TNA gets, Lucha Underground's business model seems just as unsustainable and bad. Oh and from what I've heard Destination America isn't upset so much about the ratings just that none of the new TNA audience has stuck around for their other shows, and more importantly, they can't get anyone to buy ads for iMPACT (or at least not at the prices that they would get for any non-wrestling show doing comparable ratings)
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goc posted:For all the poo poo TNA gets, Lucha Underground's business model seems just as unsustainable and bad. Lucha Underground isn't a business.
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May 16, 2015 03:01
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No, but the El Rey Network is.
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MassRafTer posted:Lucha Underground gets about 35,000 viewers on Wednesdays. Great art isn't always appreciated in its time.
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Great White Hope posted:Lucha Underground isn't a business. So it's a charity giving work to wrestlers? Still gonna need to make money somehow even if it is going to exist solely as a TV show with no plans to ever tour.
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goc posted:For all the poo poo TNA gets, Lucha Underground's business model seems just as unsustainable and bad. Oh and from what I've heard Destination America isn't upset so much about the ratings just that none of the new TNA audience has stuck around for their other shows, and more importantly, they can't get anyone to buy ads for iMPACT (or at least not at the prices that they would get for any non-wrestling show doing comparable ratings) Yeah, it was pretty much insanity to think they would be able to start running house shows this summer with the limited penetration they were sure to have.
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I watch everything on DA that isn't TNA. New season of BBQ Pitmasters starts in a couple weeks!!!
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goc posted:For all the poo poo TNA gets, Lucha Underground's business model seems just as unsustainable and bad. Oh and from what I've heard Destination America isn't upset so much about the ratings just that none of the new TNA audience has stuck around for their other shows, and more importantly, they can't get anyone to buy ads for iMPACT (or at least not at the prices that they would get for any non-wrestling show doing comparable ratings) Doesn't Lucha Underground also run on UniMás? I remember hearing months ago or something that they usually pull in 300,000 viewers a week from UniMás.
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RZApublican posted:Doesn't Lucha Underground also run on UniMás? I remember hearing months ago or something that they usually pull in 300,000 viewers a week from UniMás. 300,000 viewers is nice but wrestling shows are expensive to produce and bring in less ad revenue than other shows that get the same ratings. I would love to see Lucha Underground succeed but it seems like a real long shot to keep a wrestling show going based solely on ad revenue. Ring Ka King couldn't even do that in India where reports were that the audience was like 2-3 million viewers. Plus you would imagine their costs would have been lower with half of their crew being new trainees.
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LU's gonna need to start putting brands on wrestlers' tights like Nascar drivers' cars. Drago, sponsored by Castrol GTX.
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sticklefifer posted:LU's gonna need to start putting brands on wrestlers' tights like Nascar drivers' cars. He'd be sponsored by Firestone Tyres surely?
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Alain Post posted:No, but the El Rey Network is. And the El Rey Network is Robert Rodriguez's pet project.
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Luigi Thirty posted:And the El Rey Network is Robert Rodriguez's pet project. Yes, and the Panda Energy/Ted Turner money will keep coming forever. And I get that TNA is still around but aspiring to TNA's business model doesn't seem to be a good move.
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I know that more competition is good for the wrestling business, but I want Impact to get canceled so bad just to see how these guys try to spin it as Meltzer still being totally off base 'with Impact now free to be released for free on Youtube, it can reach a far bigger audience than ever before. Destination America was just holding TNA back'
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Marquis de Pyro posted:I know that more competition is good for the wrestling business, but I want Impact to get canceled so bad just to see how these guys try to spin it as Meltzer still being totally off base Every month they'd say "they're coming back any day now, just you watch" The only question is if that would be sadder than what they're currently doing
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Alain Post posted:I want to see what happens when WWE buys the TNA tape library. Aside from thunderous laughter?
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Alain Post posted:I want to see what happens when WWE buys the TNA tape library. Are You Serious? comes back and never goes away
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Alain Post posted:I want to see what happens when WWE buys the TNA tape library. Vince wonders what happened to that dollar bill that was in his wallet on Tuesday on a Friday, because he really wanted that Baby Ruth. Then he remembers buying TNA. Old age is a bitch.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:I know that more competition is good for the wrestling business, but I want Impact to get canceled so bad just to see how these guys try to spin it as Meltzer still being totally off base TNA has never been competition anyway
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duyarvish posted:Would Vince even want the tapes for anything more then just to hoard them so no one else could have them? Why not just burn them in that case.
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sticklefifer posted:Why not just burn them in that case. Please think of the environment. TNA would destroy it.
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sticklefifer posted:Why not just burn them in that case. I am now envisioning the TNA Mecca propagandists virulently advocating a "scorched earth" policy when TNA finally collapses, so as not to give the WWEnemy a single thing they can use in their favor. 
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Marquis de Pyro posted:I know that more competition is good for the wrestling business, but I want Impact to get canceled so bad just to see how these guys try to spin it as Meltzer still being totally off base Oh no, I'm sure they would be blaming Meltzer for TNA being canceled.
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