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Rodyle posted:So did Hercule spend this whole "the world is taken over by a demon" thing on a gigantic drinking binge or what You mean Demon King Piccolo? Assuming Hercule's around the same age as Goku, he would be pretty far removed from being the World's Strongest Man* *not trained by Master Roshi.
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I meant in the sense of "how could anyone be a skeptic in this world."
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May 17, 2015 05:36
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Rodyle posted:So did Hercule spend this whole "the world is taken over by a demon" thing on a gigantic drinking binge or what who the gently caress is hercule
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May 17, 2015 05:42
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The same way the entire population of the Dragonball world forgot about the existence of Ki inbetween series.
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May 17, 2015 05:42
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I find "[manga author] forgot" is a good Occam's razor go-to answer for any sort of plot hole like this, in any series.
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May 17, 2015 05:43
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King Picolo was just a trick! Some bombs and stuff, there was no way it was a real demon. Mr. Satan saw right trough it!
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May 17, 2015 05:50
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Rodyle posted:I meant in the sense of "how could anyone be a skeptic in this world." I'm reminded of the conversation in Men in Black where Tommy Lee Jones says how humans need to be kept in the dark about all the alien stuff because the realization that the Earth is constantly on the edge of being blown up would drive people completely insane. I think DBZ civilians are just conditioned to be uber skeptics.
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May 17, 2015 06:03
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Kurui Reiten posted:In the altered time line, Gero is still keeping tabs on them, but his graphs may be showing much higher estimated power boosts than before. I believe Gero said that he stopped keeping track after the Saiyan saga, since with Goku's age he wouldn't be able to get strong enough to keep up with his androids (and considering he didn't know about SSJ and zenkai it could be possible - he created androids that turned out to be stronger than 100% Freeza and the last time he saw Goku he was struggling with Vegeta; that's a quite large margin of error there). In the altered time line he even mistakes loving Yamcha for Goku initially, due to his heightened power level. mmkay fucked around with this message at 08:04 on May 17, 2015 |
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May 17, 2015 08:02
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With Hercule, it's more that he was a pretty drat good fighter and then Taopaipai almost killed him. And from then on he thought Ki etc. was all bullshit. Basically self-justification for how he lost.
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May 17, 2015 08:10
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Maybe Gero is such a genius that he took data from the Vegeta/19 fight and quickly inputted in the new stats, hmm???
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May 17, 2015 08:11
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I'm not sure why getting a hole punched through you would cause your flesh to warp and then vanish in a fiery explosion, but who am I to argue with King Piccolo?
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May 17, 2015 08:18
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Rodyle posted:So did Hercule spend this whole "the world is taken over by a demon" thing on a gigantic drinking binge or what If I remember correctly Piccolo was king of the world for like a day, right? Not much time to do anything even if he'd wanted to. Rodyle posted:I'm not sure why getting a hole punched through you would cause your flesh to warp and then vanish in a fiery explosion, but who am I to argue with King Piccolo? Namekian biology is weird. Alternatively, maybe what made him explode was spitting his essence (the Piccolo Jr. egg).
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May 17, 2015 12:01
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Rodyle posted:I'm not sure why getting a hole punched through you would cause your flesh to warp and then vanish in a fiery explosion, but who am I to argue with King Piccolo? Who knows but it was the best action moment in Dragon Ball
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May 17, 2015 14:34
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I wonder if King PIccolo would have been a competent ruler, outside of the mass destruction lottery. For all we know Dog King was useless, maybe they really would have turned around on Piccolo and he'd be satisfied with the praise of the people.
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May 17, 2015 14:42
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I wonder if King PIccolo would have been a competent ruler, outside of the mass destruction lottery. For all we know Dog King was useless, maybe they really would have turned around on Piccolo and he'd be satisfied with the praise of the people. One of his first actions as ruler was making all crime legal and then making it illegal to say words like "peace" or "justice"
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May 17, 2015 14:47
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Well Manicured Man posted:One of his first actions as ruler was making all crime legal and then making it illegal to say words like "peace" or "justice" So you're saying "yes".
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May 17, 2015 14:54
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The main problem I see with that theory posted last page was that main timeline Gero saw an increase in his power readings compared to the future timeline, yet he still didn't account for SSJ with 19 and 20, and presumably 17 and 18 either. Since the timelines are the same until Trunks shows up, I don't really see how Gero can notice a difference as opposed to the future timeline without acknowledging SSJ. Also SSJ Vegeta in the history of Trunks video is anime only, right? I know there was a HoT manga too.
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May 17, 2015 16:20
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e X posted:The same way the entire population of the Dragonball world forgot about the existence of Ki inbetween series. The earliest Budokais were underground Bloodsport type stuff. They didn't get big and televised everywhere until Mr. Satan.
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May 17, 2015 16:23
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Well Manicured Man posted:One of his first actions as ruler was making all crime legal and then making it illegal to say words like "peace" or "justice" But... Wouldn't that crime then be legal?
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Darko posted:The earliest Budokais were underground Bloodsport type stuff. They didn't get big and televised everywhere until Mr. Satan. Yeah, I think it only started with Mr Satan as the World Tournament that had Goku vs Tien only to be provided by radio judging by the scenes of Yamcha in the hospital. Would fit since the earlier tournaments had only standing viewing only, where the tournament post Cell's Game had big stadium seating.
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May 17, 2015 17:12
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Raserys posted:But... Wouldn't that crime then be legal? King Piccolo, in one decisive move, completely eradicated all illegal activities. King Piccolo for President of Earth
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May 17, 2015 17:24
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Darko posted:The earliest Budokais were underground Bloodsport type stuff. They didn't get big and televised everywhere until Mr. Satan. Hercule as Frank Dux is a hilariously apt comparison, actually.
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May 17, 2015 17:27
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So King Piccolo is Ron Paul. Does that make Piccolo Jr. ... Rand Paul? https://youtu.be/XdKhc4_xGjE
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May 17, 2015 17:33
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So Goku + Vegeta are officially more powerful than Bills, now, in case they ever bothered to work together (ie. they're close enough now, singularly, that the two of them would beat him). Also, I just made the connection that Jaco is basically Earth's Green Lantern, who is hilariously inept as his job completely.
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May 17, 2015 22:35
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I'm not sure if that's true. Like Goku says he would be stronger then Beerus in his Super Cyan form, but Whis doesn't seem to believe it, and I'm more inclined to believe Whis then Goku.
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May 17, 2015 22:57
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With Super Cyan, are they combining SSG with SSJ1 or 2?
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May 17, 2015 23:04
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Mraagvpeine posted:With Super Cyan, are they combining SSG with SSJ1 or 2? Neither. They're just using SSJ using God ki. No SSG needed.
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Rodyle posted:I meant in the sense of "how could anyone be a skeptic in this world." I always assumed Hercules knew the stuff the Ki users were doing was real, and he was just bullshitting to deceive his fans.
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Stallion Cabana posted:I'm not sure if that's true. Like Goku says he would be stronger then Beerus in his Super Cyan form, but Whis doesn't seem to believe it, and I'm more inclined to believe Whis then Goku. Whis says that Goku and Vegeta would be able to beat Beerus if they worked together (probably as SSGSSJs). The movie ends, basically saying, that, no, they will always be rivals. Darko fucked around with this message at 23:18 on May 17, 2015 |
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I always assumed Hercules knew the stuff the Ki users were doing was real, and he was just bullshitting to deceive his fans. Not at first; he was genuinely surprised when he actually saw it. From his perspective, it makes sense. The only thing that got national news was Piccolo taking over the world from president dog by blowing up cities by some unknown means. The Budokais were underground thing, and there were only THREE human ki users on the planet for a long time, and when Goku/Tenshinhan/Krillen/Yamcha/Chaunzu all appeared, it was unheard of, and everything they did happened out in the country or whatever. he enters tournaments against people that don't have ki; Cell threatens the world as Piccolo 2.0, and he thinks he's the strongest guy on earth that can kick Cell's rear end because he has nothing to compare it to. Then he gets slammed into a mountain and sees all that crazy stuff, and just keeps up the charade after being somewhat heroic and throwing 16's head to Gohan.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Neither. They're just using SSJ using God ki. No SSG needed. It's a little confusing that God Ki and SSG are separate.
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May 18, 2015 00:05
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Isn't there some interview that says Mr Satan hates ki cause a ki user killed his master
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Namtab posted:Isn't there some interview that says Mr Satan hates ki cause a ki user killed his master If true, I'd rather not see it. It'd ruin the illusion that is Hercule.
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May 18, 2015 00:34
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It was Tao Pai Pai who killed his master, and that's the reason why he's so cowardly.
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Covok posted:If true, I'd rather not see it. It'd ruin the illusion that is Hercule. There were scenes of him trying to fly in private, so I don't think so. Even if that was filler it was still better than that explanation.
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Mraagvpeine posted:It's a little confusing that God Ki and SSG are separate. It's really not. Anyone who can train hard enough can access God Ki. SSG was a ritual some saiyins did to cheat some into temporary access to God Ki. Simple stuff.
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May 18, 2015 00:54
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Sir Ilpalazzo posted:It was Tao Pai Pai who killed his master, and that's the reason why he's so cowardly. He's not even really cowardly when it comes to standard threats. He's just VERY aware of his limits. He faced down those two gunmen who came to kill Majin Buu, and he stayed relatively close by during the Cell and Kid Buu fights and all the nonsense going along with those.
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Momomo posted:There were scenes of him trying to fly in private, so I don't think so. Even if that was filler it was still better than that explanation. That was filler from after he sees videl fly off. T is unrelated to ki
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May 18, 2015 01:00
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So if I understand right, Super Cyan is combining the God Ki boost and SSJ boost.
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A while ago, someone linked those Dragonball Dissection videos, where the series was analyzed both in terms of content, references, and information surrounding the series and how it was made. Looks like this guy is back in full swing so something to look out for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAIt1ALOEr0
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