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Tenchrono
Jun 2, 2011


The stock pensacola :negative:.

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Krogort
Oct 27, 2013

FAT CURES MUSCLES posted:

The stock pensacola :negative:.

I found it not so terrible with the gun upgrade.
AP will citadel other cruisers quite reliably.

Ghetto Prince
Sep 11, 2010

got to be mellow, y'all
Goddamn, haven't logged into my account in almost 3 years and it still had 3000+ gold. I forgot just how much we were raking in from Berlin and NASA.

Anyway - I just finished my first two games in a Erie. The first one I had no idea what the gently caress I was doing and just followed a tier 4 battleship that had somehow gotten into my newbie match and was wrecking everything from 5 - 6 kilometers away. The second match I helped plink away at a Cruiser from long range , got a few good AP hits and a lucky critical hit , then got into a turning fight with another ship that rushed at me from behind an island and I just barely won.

I was seriously feeling good about that and getting set to trash talk until I remembered it was a CO-OP match against the AI.

:arghfist::saddowns:

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
I think the key to Ocean is keep your distance from the enemy blob as long as possible. Gang up on and pick off weaker or stray ships. Keep pounding DD's so they can't blanket the map with torps if possible else they will draw you into range of larger ships with more firepower.

grrarg posted:

Night battles with darkness affecting spotting distance would be cool as hell.

You think people are bad now in day maps running into other ships and islands? Now think only the light of the moon and searchlights.

Velius
Feb 27, 2001
I think cruiser game play is my favorite right now, but that might be because I have a Myoko and they seem very overpowered for their tier. The Mogami was my favorite Navyfield ship (aside from the M, O, and P Projects that aren't even close to implemented yet) and I look forward to having it.

I'm getting into carriers now, though. The Ryujo is pretty fun so far. Being terrified of American fighters is pretty novel. Is there any point where the Japanese fighters can hold a candle or are they always glimpsed by the four plane flight groups to the extent they might as well not bother?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Velius posted:

I think cruiser game play is my favorite right now, but that might be because I have a Myoko and they seem very overpowered for their tier. The Mogami was my favorite Navyfield ship (aside from the M, O, and P Projects that aren't even close to implemented yet) and I look forward to having it.

I'm getting into carriers now, though. The Ryujo is pretty fun so far. Being terrified of American fighters is pretty novel. Is there any point where the Japanese fighters can hold a candle or are they always glimpsed by the four plane flight groups to the extent they might as well not bother?

The second option. Japanese fighters are never able to go toe to toe with their American counterparts, and if they're a tier up, forget about it. That said if there is a squadron of US DBs/TBs floating around unescorted, you can shred them pretty quickly.

jownzy
Apr 20, 2012

I love Rainbow Moon.

It is the deepest game ever. Nothing compares to its epic story.
After previously playing Navyfield :psypop: for like 7 years, and dreaming of a game seemingly like this one, is there any other tangible benefits to buying into closed beta? Do they reset your premium time when open beta starts?

I don't have as much time for video games as I used to, but really liked what I've see thus far in videos. Seems like the Russian Bias is the way to go for the DD selection.

Toot toot, to my former Greenlandish countrymen.

jownzy fucked around with this message at 01:10 on May 19, 2015

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

Well, apparently the New York can't hit targets reliably outside of around 8km. At 10km I'm lucky if two shots connect with another battleship, with all the rest going short/long/left/right. :emo:

Velius
Feb 27, 2001

jownzy posted:

After previously playing Navyfield :psypop: for like 7 years, and dreaming of a game seemingly like this one, is there any other tangible benefits to buying into closed beta? Do they reset your premium time when open beta starts?

I don't have as much time for video games as I used to, but really liked what I've see thus far in videos. Seems like the Russian Bias is the way to go for the DD selection.

Toot toot, to my former Greenlandish countrymen.

I'm having fun in it. The Soviet destroyer is 30 bucks or something seems fun and gets you in, plus a month of premium, etc. I got the crappy Japanese one and don't regret it just to get in.

Then again not only did I play Navyfield to the H-39 (people who didn't play Navyfield have NO IDEA how much time that entails), I also have 11000 battles in world of tanks, so my judgement is probably in question.

jownzy
Apr 20, 2012

I love Rainbow Moon.

It is the deepest game ever. Nothing compares to its epic story.

Velius posted:

I'm having fun in it. The Soviet destroyer is 30 bucks or something seems fun and gets you in, plus a month of premium, etc. I got the crappy Japanese one and don't regret it just to get in.

Then again not only did I play Navyfield to the H-39 (people who didn't play Navyfield have NO IDEA how much time that entails), I also have 11000 battles in world of tanks, so my judgement is probably in question.

You got out way earlier... I've got 4 BB5 and 2 BB6, and multiple CV5. Anyway, bunch of people still playing that nonsense.

I chose War Thunder over ever getting into World of Tanks. Am I correct to assume this game is everything Battle Stations Midway never became?

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

jownzy posted:

Do they reset your premium time when open beta starts?

I was wondering this too before I bought, had a hard time finding a clear answer.

They reset your account fully when they go from CB to OB. You get the gold, the premium time, everything as if you had just bought it on a fresh account.

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

jownzy posted:

You got out way earlier... I've got 4 BB5 and 2 BB6, and multiple CV5. Anyway, bunch of people still playing that nonsense.

I chose War Thunder over ever getting into World of Tanks. Am I correct to assume this game is everything Battle Stations Midway never became?

Err, I think if anything, there is less in this game than in Battlestations Midway.

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram
I don't remember which one of you talked me into getting an Atlanta, but that ship is a blast. If you're primaried by the red team, you're hosed, but if you can hang back and catch other ships or DD's off guard, it's a monster.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

Tahirovic posted:

I am not liking the Colorado at all, the stock ship is TB bait, doesn't help that most of those 4 spawn maps are too hard for pubbies to play. Your CR and DD gently caress off into the tiny channels where you shouldn't drive your BB and leave you alone to die.

Hopefully this thing gets better with the 1945 hull, the 1930whatever hull already added some AA which should help some.
Yeah I got the Colorado last night and have been kinda "meh" about it. I do noticeably more damage per hit when I penetrate, but it feels like my shells are going everywhere but the target compared to the New Mexico. I'm reserving judgement until I get it fully upgraded though.

NTRabbit posted:

I've only played on Ocean once; my team had two less ships, half the number of battleships, and we were slaughtered
I like the low-tier version of the map that's super tiny and small, but the high-tier big version sucks rear end. They should just use the small version for all tiers so it becomes a hilarious brawl. :v:

The Locator posted:

With some exceptions, my hit rate is mostly unchanged from pre-patch, but I'm not doing nearly as much damage now. I will land the typical 2-3 shells from super long range in a salvo and do.. 820... Or I'll fire HE and do 3500. but no chance for really good high damage hits. I have had very few citadel's since the patch, even though to all appearances in the game, I'm landing my shells pretty much the same as before. It's annoying and bugging me.
I'm actually having the opposite experience: I find AP performance more consistent now. True I do bounce more often, but it feels more consistent as to when it bounces and when it penetrates, whereas pre-patch when I went full flat broadside versus another ship it sometimes felt like a crapshoot whether or not I'd do 11k+ damage in my barrage or like 2k because reasons.

Velius
Feb 27, 2001
So where is this torpedo jamming skill? I've just gotten my Ryujo, and last battle 3 different cruisers/battleships seemed to be able to make my torps go into crazy wide arcs at will. Is there a cooldown? I don't see the skill in the list so I'm fairly confused.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Velius posted:

So where is this torpedo jamming skill? I've just gotten my Ryujo, and last battle 3 different cruisers/battleships seemed to be able to make my torps go into crazy wide arcs at will. Is there a cooldown? I don't see the skill in the list so I'm fairly confused.

It's a matter of AA. If a torp bomber squadron gets intercepted or takes too much AA fire, the accuracy dies.

MREBoy
Mar 14, 2005

MREs - They're whats for breakfast, lunch AND dinner !
Someone start a petition to have BB gun SFX changed to some of the booms in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3S6MYSj2AI

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Is it me or is the Cleveland back to being a nice strong tier 8 after the HE buff?

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





xthetenth posted:

Is it me or is the Cleveland back to being a nice strong tier 8 after the HE buff?

It can be pretty good now, yea. :supaburn:

So either I'm starting to get a handle on the crappy US Battleships, or I just got really drat lucky, because this just happened:



That's 2 x devastating strike, a confederate, and a high caliber.




I even lived through completely mis-judging a DD's range and attitude and ate something like 4 or 5 of his torpedoes.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

xthetenth posted:

It's a matter of AA. If a torp bomber squadron gets intercepted or takes too much AA fire, the accuracy dies.

No, it's a cruiser-specific ability. It lasts about 20 seconds, 35ish with the tier 3 Captain perk boosting it. It's the same if they're getting shot at by fighters.

Even if you're diving into a sea of Iowas, you won't lose any accuracy (although you'll lose all your planes). But a single Aoba and its pissweak AA will make your planes waste their torpedoes if he times the ability right.

The ability's influence extends outward all the way to the max range of the longest-range AA gun the ship has. So if it has a single AA gun capable of shooting at 7km, it projects a "you shall not bomb" zone out to 7km.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Vengarr posted:

No, it's a cruiser-specific ability. It lasts about 20 seconds, 35ish with the tier 3 Captain perk boosting it. It's the same if they're getting shot at by fighters.

Even if you're diving into a sea of Iowas, you won't lose any accuracy (although you'll lose all your planes). But a single Aoba and its pissweak AA will make your planes waste their torpedoes if he times the ability right.

The ability's influence extends outward all the way to the max range of the longest-range AA gun the ship has. So if it has a single AA gun capable of shooting at 7km, it projects a "you shall not bomb" zone out to 7km.

My upgraded Wyoming without any ability at all was causing torpedo bombers to spray their shots

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

NTRabbit posted:

My upgraded Wyoming without any ability at all was causing torpedo bombers to spray their shots

Probably there was a cruiser in the general area. If they have the AA range upgrade and the AA range captain ability, they can piss carriers off from a long way away. Nearly 10km away in some cases.

That or they were getting shot at by fighters. AA fire without the cruiser ability doesn't do anything but kill planes; believe me, I've tested it at length. Besides, the Wyoming doesn't really have AA to speak of.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Vengarr posted:

Besides, the Wyoming doesn't really have AA to speak of.

Yes it does, mine was routinely bringing down 8-12 planes per battle, the only ships that usually beat it for plane kills at tier 4/5 were Langleys and Bogues e: and New Yorks

The mid tier US battleships have pretty powerful AA in my experience, far more so than the Japanese, they really chew up dive bombers and anone trying manual torp bomber runs

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 10:49 on May 19, 2015

BLerchg
May 8, 2015

xthetenth posted:

Is it me or is the Cleveland back to being a nice strong tier 8 after the HE buff?

I feel the same way. Plenty of good games with the Cleveland lately. Especially if you got 1 decent Dive Bomber Carrier on your team you can put a lot of pressure on enemy battle ships.

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

If the cleveland is top tier it can also dish out a lot of damage with AP. Lot of citadel hits and stuff. It's a fun boat. Too bad It's over soon for me since I am just swimming in XP at the moment with all my boats.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Vengarr posted:

No, it's a cruiser-specific ability. It lasts about 20 seconds, 35ish with the tier 3 Captain perk boosting it. It's the same if they're getting shot at by fighters.

Even if you're diving into a sea of Iowas, you won't lose any accuracy (although you'll lose all your planes). But a single Aoba and its pissweak AA will make your planes waste their torpedoes if he times the ability right.

The ability's influence extends outward all the way to the max range of the longest-range AA gun the ship has. So if it has a single AA gun capable of shooting at 7km, it projects a "you shall not bomb" zone out to 7km.

The cruiser ability cranks the suppression effect up something fierce, but it's not the only source. Fighters especially can deal suppression very quickly as well.

Victor Surge
Feb 2, 2006

If Thomson hadn't disabled the louts' aeroplanes with well tossed wrenches, I dare say those uncouth vandals would have made off with your victuals and garments.
AP is working well for me in US battleships, especially long distance when nobody knows how to aim. I'm a big fan of firing one gun at a time, since I'm pretty sure the player I'm shooting at is probably getting flustered taking 3000 damage hits every 5-7 seconds.

I think I just won about 7 in a row with my New York.

Edit: it was 9 :psyduck:

Victor Surge fucked around with this message at 17:01 on May 19, 2015

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Victor Surge posted:

AP is working well for me in US battleships, especially long distance when nobody knows how to aim. I'm a big fan of firing one gun at a time, since I'm pretty sure the player I'm shooting at is probably getting flustered taking 3000 damage hits every 5-7 seconds.

I think I just won about 7 in a row with my New York.

Edit: it was 9 :psyduck:

I on the other hand haven't actually landed a citadel hit in my New York, and just lost a gun duel with one by doing about 3k damage a salvo while it used HE to do three times that plus fire damage, so I'm not planning to use AP again any time soon.

e: Near as I can tell, whatever they did in 3.1 took what was already far and away the most powerful ship class in the game in Battleships and buffed their survivability so that even other battleships have to slug at each other for extended periods, all while massively nerfing the only really effective battleship counter in carriers, and leaving cruisers and destroyers just as vulnerable as they always were. Only edge cases that benefit from the buff to fire damage like the Cleveland stand out.

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 17:27 on May 19, 2015

Victor Surge
Feb 2, 2006

If Thomson hadn't disabled the louts' aeroplanes with well tossed wrenches, I dare say those uncouth vandals would have made off with your victuals and garments.
I

NTRabbit posted:

I on the other hand haven't actually landed a citadel hit in my New York, and just lost a gun duel with one by doing about 3k damage a salvo while it used HE to do three times that plus fire damage, so I'm not planning to use AP again any time soon.

e: Near as I can tell, whatever they did in 3.1 took what was already far and away the most powerful ship class in the game in Battleships and buffed their survivability so that even other battleships have to slug at each other for extended periods, all while massively nerfing the only really effective battleship counter in carriers, and leaving cruisers and destroyers just as vulnerable as they always were. Only edge cases that benefit from the buff to fire damage like the Cleveland stand out.

I don't get many cits close range either and I only use AP super close if the BB is distracted. Aiming for the bow gun citadels seems best, since even if they're angled you can still pen them.

I still only get 2-3 citadels a game and kill a few turrets a game this way.

Also, don't worry, as soon I we figure it all out, they'll change it up on us.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
US DD/CA firing HE are absolutely filthy. I got four fire icons earlier from a Farragut and Cleveland firing at my Warspite. I'd only seen three up to that point.

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013



Pew Pew Motherfucker

Wasn't a double.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

xthetenth posted:

The cruiser ability cranks the suppression effect up something fierce, but it's not the only source. Fighters especially can deal suppression very quickly as well.

It's definitely cruisers and fighters, either-or. Nothing else "suppresses" bombers.

Galdarion
Apr 13, 2014
It's tough to get used to torps on destroyer I find.

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram
Just got the Des Moines. Still learning her ins and outs, but the AA is simply monstrous. I vaporized two flights of torpedo bombers and a flight of dive bombers in like five seconds. Don't pay attention to the DPM on the 76mm Mk33 guns like in that video. When they hit, they kill. (Which is historically accurate.) Also, the Des Moines will murder any cruiser 1 v 1 except another Des Moines or if a Japanese cruiser is in torpedo range.

I also killed an allied battleship with secondaries. :ohdear:

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013



I came.

e: Shoutout to scoots and pipewrench for being amazing DD buddies.
Now noone can accuse me of all my posts being soley bragging and poo poo (they still are).

Michaellaneous fucked around with this message at 02:22 on May 20, 2015

Subyng
May 4, 2013
So wait, this is still closed beta?

And if you were in the last free weekend you automatically got beta access, right?

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

Yes and yes.

The new map, Hot Spot. I hate this map with a passion and I think it should be removed right away, Getting pubbies to work is one thing, But sticking both teams in a blender and hoping they get split evenly is another thing on top of that.

Stevefin fucked around with this message at 04:03 on May 20, 2015

Smoremaster
Aug 5, 2009

Don't forget to source your quotes!
I used to love World of Tanks. Then I hated World of Tanks. Now I love World of Warships.

This game is great. It's basically scorched earth with cool boats. Really enjoying pretty much all my ships so far, though I'm only up to tier 4.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:
Now that I've got a couple of Colorado games under my belt let me just say: Holy poo poo 16-inch guns are boss as hell

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rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!

:gooncamp:
Imagine if you had that same punch on an actually good ship!

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