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yo, skimming through the gdoc, can we take out the first tip under the knight? it tells people to a) get the brave blade and b) not run away from stuff ever, both of which aren't true
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Fister Roboto posted:It's just hilarious that there are two ultimate weapons that boost the power of every element in the game EXCEPT for the one used by the penultimate summon. What were they even thinking? "We probably shouldn't make Bahamut worthless since we're already making Holy better than Flare" would be my guess. Kyrosiris posted:Given that the best they'd be doing attacking themselves is maybe the low 300s at that point? I don't consider that chump change at all. Plus, the items you seem to be having kittens about are a grand total of 180 gil. If you don't have this, please spend a couple of minutes in Bal Castle's basement. Beastmaster can do 9999x4 to every party of Neo Exdeath on the first round thanks to capture. After than you just magic lamp them with Bahamut/Leviathan/Syldra and I think it's dead by that point?
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May 20, 2015 22:35
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I've solved Omega - LIVE!
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May 20, 2015 22:41
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OMEGA STATUS: OFFENSE: OVERWHELMING DEFENSE: IMPENETRABLE EVASION: FLAWLESS TOLERANCE FOR THIS poo poo GOING ON: 0 EXECUTING: ROBOT_SUICIDE.EXE
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May 20, 2015 22:52
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Hahaha, they resumed time and he wiped them at 8 health left.
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May 21, 2015 00:39
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Asiina posted:Hahaha, they resumed time and he wiped them at 8 health left. Let's just...pretend that didn't happen. 
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May 21, 2015 00:43
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Round 2: FOOTBALL!!
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May 21, 2015 02:00
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drat, it's been a year already? Participated for the first time last year and I think I finished 6 runs. The Fiesta is probably a big reason I bought and enjoyed Bravely Default as much as I did. Super hyped for this year. My favorite team from last year had to be the 750 run with a Summoner, Black mage, Chemist and Geomancer. I killed NED at only level 25 or so and was completely untouchable. A welcome change after my first ever fiesta run with Zerker/Zerker/Monk/Bard. No idea what Chaos mode is, but now I'm imagining a romhack where the 4 available jobs are shuffled after every boss.
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May 21, 2015 02:27
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 Full Fiesta Now*! *soon
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May 21, 2015 03:24
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I actually started playing with the random team someone rolled for me earlier, whenever I feel like it. It really is team No Challenge.
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May 21, 2015 03:28
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Last year I rolled the ridiculously powerful team of White Mage, Summoner, Bard, and Chemist. With a team like that, I had to kill both superbosses, and I killed Gogo too because I could.
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May 21, 2015 03:53
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Decided to try a chaos run given out by carbybot. I have named it "Team No Damage.". Thief, white mage, white mage, monk. This is painful as hell.
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May 21, 2015 04:08
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Khisanth Magus posted:Decided to try a chaos run given out by carbybot. I have named it "Team No Damage.". Thief, white mage, white mage, monk. This is painful as hell. Give the thief brawl and steal a twin lance in the bal castle basement (about the point when brawl stops being useful on its own, really) to get some pretty decent damage, endgame worthy if you berserk him.
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May 21, 2015 04:11
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dis astranagant posted:Give the thief brawl and steal a twin lance in the bal castle basement (about the point when brawl stops being useful on its own, really) to get some pretty decent damage, endgame worthy if you berserk him. Endgame the thief should be using Mug with the chicken knife.
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May 21, 2015 04:50
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If we're talking about like actual Cleft of Dimensions endgame that party should just have four people spamming Holy There's another piece of advice for newcomers in World 3 with access to White Magic: Holy is loving amazing in this game. At 20 MP it costs less than Flare or even the elemental -aga spells while dealing about 50% more damage than the latter and, unlike Flare, having elemental boosting equipment; it's another reason White Mage is one of the best jobs aside from all that healing stuff
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May 21, 2015 04:59
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Holy is in fact the strongest spell in the game
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May 21, 2015 05:01
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Zombies' Downfall posted:If we're talking about like actual Cleft of Dimensions endgame that party should just have four people spamming Holy Chicken knife thief tops unboosted holy by a hair, though it is more sensitive to enemy defense scores.
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May 21, 2015 05:04
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dis astranagant posted:Chicken knife thief tops unboosted holy by a hair, though it is more sensitive to enemy defense scores. That kinda surprises me but the post stands as a testament to how great Holy is. !White goes incredibly well on a Monk and is basically the reason my Classic run didn't make me pull my hair out.
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May 21, 2015 05:09
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Zombies' Downfall posted:That kinda surprises me but the post stands as a testament to how great Holy is. !White goes incredibly well on a Monk and is basically the reason my Classic run didn't make me pull my hair out. Yeah, White Monks are actually pretty good. That said, Classic runs are supposed to be Natural.  (natural is loving stupid, friends don't let friends play natural runs)
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May 21, 2015 05:14
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Thief chicken knife M ends up pretty much exactly double white mage magic M at level 30 so you're looking at 127 * 20 vs 241 * 10. Around level 35-40 thief M pulls ahead and stays there.
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May 21, 2015 05:18
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, White Monks are actually pretty good. That said, Classic runs are supposed to be Natural. In retrospect I think it was the first Random I ever did and not Classic; iirc my actual Classic run was Kn/Kn/WM/WM and was both incredibly painless and incredibly dull. I just started a pre-Fiesta run of GBA by the way since I've never played GBA before; is all of the added content like new jobs World 3/postgame stuff? And if I decide to run it instead of SFAM this year, is there a comprehensive list of version differences I can look at?
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May 21, 2015 05:23
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Zombies' Downfall posted:I just started a pre-Fiesta run of GBA by the way since I've never played GBA before; is all of the added content like new jobs World 3/postgame stuff? And if I decide to run it instead of SFAM this year, is there a comprehensive list of version differences I can look at? Yeah. The biggest differences are that Vampire absorbs your entire missing HP (instead of half), and Gilgamesh on Big Bridge can't be silenced. Oh, and the Quicksave glitch.
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May 21, 2015 05:25
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Zombies' Downfall posted:In retrospect I think it was the first Random I ever did and not Classic; iirc my actual Classic run was Kn/Kn/WM/WM and was both incredibly painless and incredibly dull. Everything new is postgame or drat near it. The first 3 new classes unlock after unsealing all twelve weapons and the bonus dungeon doesn't unlock til after NED.
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May 21, 2015 05:25
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Zombies' Downfall posted:In retrospect I think it was the first Random I ever did and not Classic; iirc my actual Classic run was Kn/Kn/WM/WM and was both incredibly painless and incredibly dull. The best new content though is throughout the entire game: the new translation.
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May 21, 2015 05:29
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MonsieurChoc posted:The best new content though is throughout the entire game: the new translation. That crab monster got served!
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May 21, 2015 05:31
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Fister Roboto posted:The best way to deal with random encounters is to not deal with them. Edit: Actually, it's very easy to do an impromptu "speedrun" of FFV when you're in the Fiesta if you're familiar with the game. Heaven help you if you run the clock out on Omniscient, though.
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May 21, 2015 05:52
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Sometimes you can get really lucky on Omniscient though! Last year he killed himself on my reflect ring and I didn't even need to run down his MP. I was ready for a stupid-long slog of just waiting for him to run out since I was doing a classic run and rolled Thief/Knight/Knight/Knight.
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May 21, 2015 06:05
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On a run in my first Fiesta, I ended up killing Omega by doing the Poison Rod/Quick trick. That was a pretty long wait as well.
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May 21, 2015 06:09
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MonsieurChoc posted:The best new content though is throughout the entire game: the new translation. "Let her go, you fiendish, lecherous, piratety pirate!" "Oh my stars and comets! HE'S A SHE!" "Creeping crawdads! Something's got a hold on the ship!"
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May 21, 2015 06:11
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Twelve by Pies posted:On a run in my first Fiesta, I ended up killing Omega by doing the Poison Rod/Quick trick. That was a pretty long wait as well. Experience The Void all over again. Twice!
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May 21, 2015 06:12
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yesssss, time to dig out the GBA.
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May 21, 2015 06:19
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How exactly do you poison Omega? Does it have to be specifically with a Poison Rod? I tried that a couple years ago with the Quick trick and didn't notice anything. I even had the game on 10x speed for like, an hour.
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May 21, 2015 07:35
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Alabaster White posted:How exactly do you poison Omega? Does it have to be specifically with a Poison Rod? I tried that a couple years ago with the Quick trick and didn't notice anything. I even had the game on 10x speed for like, an hour. You actually don't "poison" him, you hit him with Sap, which is a different status. It causes his health to tick down continuously as opposed to doing damage at set intervals like poison. And yes, I believe poison rods are the only way to inflict it on Omega.
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May 21, 2015 07:38
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It should also be noted that due to Omega's inherent Reflect, you can't target him directly with the rod, you have to have Reflect set up on one of your characters and bounce it onto him.
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May 21, 2015 07:44
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Tyty posted:Last year he killed himself on my reflect ring and I didn't even need to run down his MP. I was ready for a stupid-long slog of just waiting for him to run out since I was doing a classic run and rolled Thief/Knight/Knight/Knight. Why the hell  Is there even anything worth getting for that setup past the first tablet? Excalibur and Assassin Dagger are the only weapons that setup can use, you get the Chicken Knife right away, and there's not really any majorly worthwhile weapons or armor in the Trench or Istory. Was a second Aegis Shield that important?
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May 21, 2015 07:48
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KataraniSword posted:Why the hell Aegis Shields are always that good, for one. For two, Fork Tower has the Defender, which is always that good. Defender/(Brave Blade or Chicken Knife)/Excalibur still leaves one more weapon, and the Rune Blade's an excellent option. I'd skip the Trench, but I'd certainly hit Istory and Fork Tower with that team. EDIT: So I just did the math out, since I'm bored. For reference, the Rune Blade has 70 Attack with MP and uses the rune formula. The Enhancer has 102 attack and the normal sword formula. Level 37 Knight Lenna has Strength 48 and Magic 14. Neo Exdeath has 30 Defense, and if there's anyone who you care about slight differences against, it's him. Enhancer uses the normal sword formula, so it does 102~114 - 30 * (((48 * 37) / 128) + 2). So, 72~84 * 15, or 1080-1260. Rune Blade uses the rune formula, so we're looking at 35~105 - 7 * (((48 * 37) / 128) + ((14 * 37) / 128) + 2). So, 28~98 * 19, or 532~1862. I chose those numbers as 37 is a reasonable endgame level. It also provides a breakpoint in M for Lenna, giving her one more point of multiplier with the Rune Blade. It works out to be slightly better on average. However, as you gain levels, the Rune Blade pulls away more and more, adding on more multiplier despite its seemingly low power. So that's a thing, if you regularly end up at higher levels than that. The Rune Blade also pulls ahead against anything with higher defense (Necrophobia and Exdeath's tree form. And, of course, Shinryu). Rosalie_A fucked around with this message at 08:19 on May 21, 2015 |
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May 21, 2015 07:57
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Dr Pepper posted:Holy is in fact the strongest spell in the game Flare is the strongest in terms of the actual attack power, but it can't be boosted by equipment or exploit elemental weaknesses. It does ignore defense, though, so it's better than boosted Holy against high magic defense enemies that aren't weak to Holy.
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May 21, 2015 08:03
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The thing is very few enemies actually have Magic Defense of note.
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May 21, 2015 08:04
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Trasson posted:Aegis Shields are always that good, for one. For two, Fork Tower has the Defender, which is always that good. Defender/(Brave Blade or Chicken Knife)/Excalibur still leaves one more weapon, and the Rune Blade's an excellent option. I'd skip the Trench, but I'd certainly hit Istory and Fork Tower with that team. This is pretty much the reason. That and I thought I actually needed to go inside Istory for the lamp.  I believe my final setup was Exalibur/Defender/Ragnarok (Lucky steal from NED, was using Enchanter before)/Chicken Knife when I beat the game, with one of the knights twohanding Excalibur.
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I totally forgot the Defender was a thing, to be honest. How do the Rune Blade/Enhancer compare to the Assassin's Dagger, damage-wise? I know both the Brave Blade and Chicken Knife beat them out in optimal settings, but I don't know how the lower tier weapons compare.
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