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Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004

Herr Tog posted:

Okay I am gonna get teh Jr rail pass as I am staying about 10 days and will be going from tokyo to hiroshima and back. Do goons recommend the green pass or ordinary?

How's your Japanese and how often will you be on the bullet trains while you're there? I would highly recommend the Green Class if you can speak conversational Japanese because it is important when receiving the tickets at the reservation counter - Where are you going? Where do you want to sit? Aisle / Window? Do you want to be sitting behind each other or next to each other? What time do you want to go? Which train do you want to get on?

Green class is nice on all the bullet trains but if you know which train is the newest, you will get to experience the nicer green class. However, if you're going from Tokyo to Hiroshima, Regular Class would probably be the best. Unless you're going up north to Akita / Taking the new Hokuriku train / traveling south of Fukuoka.

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Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Busy Bee posted:

How's your Japanese and how often will you be on the bullet trains while you're there? I would highly recommend the Green Class if you can speak conversational Japanese because it is important when receiving the tickets at the reservation counter - Where are you going? Where do you want to sit? Aisle / Window? Do you want to be sitting behind each other or next to each other? What time do you want to go? Which train do you want to get on?

You really don't need to be able to speak Japanese at all to reserve a seat -- you can get by just handing them your pass(es) and saying the name of the place you want to go. They'll just skip any questions they can't figure out how to ask, and then they'll write down the possible times and routes and get you to point at one or whatever. (They'll also probably do all this even if you do speak Japanese, because Japan.)

The only time I figure I'd have been in trouble if I couldn't speak Japanese was one trip when the guy kept telling me there weren't any seats available on the train I wanted and I could see on his screen that there were. (He hadn't noticed that I had a green pass.)

Radiohead71
Sep 15, 2007

Herr Tog posted:

Okay I am gonna get teh Jr rail pass as I am staying about 10 days and will be going from tokyo to hiroshima and back. Do goons recommend the green pass or ordinary?

I got the green last year and really liked it. Necessary no, but it was nice. Note, you can use your JR Pass in Hiroshima on the JR Hiroshima site seeing bus (stops right outside the Sheraton Hiroshima, fantastic hotel) and also the JR ferry from Miyajimaguchi station to Miyajima island. You can also use it on the N'EX from NRT to the big Tokyo stations (Tokyo or Shinagawa).

Xibanya
Sep 17, 2012




Clever Betty

Stumbling Block posted:

They usually have the schedules for the shows printed on the table/screen at the counter as well so you won't have to point at the board above them for both you and the guy behind the counter's convenience, so you both won't have to play the "guess what's being pointed at" game.

Oh good! Should be easy then!

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

caberham posted:

Dates? Ordinary should mostly be fine

Freaksaus posted:

I got the green pass during my trip last year and while the extra luxery was nice it wasn't really needed at all.

A thing to consider is that if you want to make use of your green pass you have to make a reservation beforehand. This only takes a minute or so(plus any time standing in line) but it's good to remember when planning your Shinkansen trips.

peanut posted:

10 days, you only need a 1 week pass because you won't need a JR pass for schmoozing around Tokyo.

Nikko is daytrippable if you start early, but staying up there isn't bad. Lots of hotels/ryokans on the main tourist street from the station.

Thank you, a one week ordinary pass it is.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
Trying to think of a tentative itinerary even though I usually travel without much of one. As of now, thinking:

5/21 fligth into Narita/ travel to where I'm staying in Tokyo that afternoon, chill and try to sleep off whatever jet lag I have.
5/22 try and see Sumo, there's a tournament going on and I figure the morning matches won't be too crowded on a Friday
5/23 whatever in the morning/thing with my friend in the evening
5/24 Music festival assuming I can figure out how to get tickets/they aren't sold out. If that falls through, whatever.
5/25-26 go to Hiroshima, feel like it makes sense for Memorial day. Stay the night, return on the 26th and do whatever that evening
5/27 Whatever. Sushi/fish market?
5/28 whatever/packing/gift shopping in the morning, fly out in the evening

Does that seem reasonable? Only definite things are thing with friend and wanting to visit Hiroshima, if I miss something else I don't really care/I can just wander around and enjoy that if I end up not being able to go to something.

Main questions now I guess are if it's worth getting a JR pass for the Shinkansen to Hiroshima/back along with the trips to/from Narita, and if it'd be feasible to stop halfway and visit Kyoto briefly coming back from Hiroshima on the 26th, or if I should just go straight back to Tokyo. I'm fine with spending a while just sitting on the train and reading, since travelling is the only time I really ever get reading done anymore.

Any thoughts/advice?

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Hiroshima in one leg is doable but it's at least 6 plus hours long and eats a whole day. Value wise it's a good call on the train pass. However I think you should just do tokyo and fly lcc to Hiroshima instead of taking a train. Then again you like long train rides so it's your call

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


Can anybody tell me what time of day the Edo Firemen’s Annual Memorial on May 25 is? We'd like to check it out. Thanks.

DiscoJ
Jun 23, 2003

From 11am

http://www.city.taito.lg.jp/index/event/kanko/syoubouzyunsyokusya.html
(Japanese)

Radiohead71
Sep 15, 2007


2 days in Hiroshima is good if you can swing it. That gives you 1 day to take in all of the Bomb dome, peace park and museum, then have okonomiyaki at Nagataya for dinner. The 2nd day you can take the ferry to Miyajima island and spend the day there. The following day you can take the train back to Tokyo or wherever. I think it was a 7 hr ride from Tokyo to Hiroshima. I believe I was on the Sakura train which made every stop in between. The fastest train (Nozomi) makes the fewest stops and is faster, but it doesn't work with the JR pass.

Also, you can take as many shinkansen trips as you want as long as your pass is valid. I would say take the train. It's part of the Japan experience, and you can relax/read as you travel.

Radiohead71 fucked around with this message at 16:59 on May 12, 2015

FiftySeven
Jan 1, 2006


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Radiohead71 posted:

I think it was a 7 hr ride from Tokyo to Hiroshima
its more like 5 Hours. 3 to Shin Osaka, 2 to Hiroshima. I would recommend spring the travel up by stopping in osaka and kyoto though because 5 Hours basically wastes a day if you spend all of it on a train.

FiftySeven fucked around with this message at 17:16 on May 12, 2015

Radiohead71
Sep 15, 2007

FiftySeven posted:

its more like 5 Hours. 3 to Shin Osaka, 2 to Hiroshima. I would recommend spring the travel up by stopping in osaka and kyoto though because 5 Hours basically wastes a day if you spend all of it on a train.

I did start at NRT, so that's probably the difference. I started at NRT at 3:30 PM and got to Hiroshima after 10:00 PM.

FiftySeven
Jan 1, 2006


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Radiohead71 posted:

I did start at NRT, so that's probably the difference. I started at NRT at 3:30 PM and got to Hiroshima after 10:00 PM.

Yeah that's easily an hour or two Depending on the train you take out of NRT. That is a long long travel day if you did that straight after a flight, you deserve a medal.

Radiohead71
Sep 15, 2007

FiftySeven posted:

Yeah that's easily an hour or two Depending on the train you take out of NRT. That is a long long travel day if you did that straight after a flight, you deserve a medal.

I was up for over 24 hours. Got up at LA at 4am (my flight from LAX-NRT was canceled the previous day, after a 6 hr delay). After another 3 hr delay finally took off, LAX-NRT was 11 hrs, then a 7 hr train ride. I couldn't sleep on the plane and I didn't want to sleep on the shinkansen and miss my stop. Was a very long day, but it was worth it. I loved Japan. I didn't want to leave.

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good



Thanks


Radiohead71 posted:

I couldn't sleep on the plane and I didn't want to sleep on the shinkansen and miss my stop.

Last time I was in Japan I almost missed getting off at Hiroshima. Not because I was asleep, but because I was sitting on the toilet and didn't realize we were there. Thank god I was wrapping things up when my group started pounding on the door.

FiftySeven
Jan 1, 2006


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Radiohead71 posted:

I was up for over 24 hours. Got up at LA at 4am (my flight from LAX-NRT was canceled the previous day, after a 6 hr delay). After another 3 hr delay finally took off, LAX-NRT was 11 hrs, then a 7 hr train ride. I couldn't sleep on the plane and I didn't want to sleep on the shinkansen and miss my stop. Was a very long day, but it was worth it. I loved Japan. I didn't want to leave.

Literally everyone I know who had ever visited here wants to stay, I am going home tomorrow and i am dreading it. That said, Japan it's amazing to visit and everything but living here might be a bit much. Western life is so much more laid back in general that i doubt I would enjoy a "regular"life here. However this is my third time in the country so it seems to be doing something right.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
You can join the army and live a very American life anywhere in the world

FiftySeven
Jan 1, 2006


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caberham posted:

You can join the army and live a very American life anywhere in the world

How American is life in the British army? ☺

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

FiftySeven posted:

How American is life in the British army? ☺

You get a gun, that's more American than most British career options

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

caberham posted:

You can join the army and live a very American life anywhere in the world

Goons in Platoons › RESOURCE- Ask Us About Joining The US Military! > "Should I join the Army to live a comfortable American life in Japan?"

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



So looks like I'll be living in the Akita prefecture come this July. Any goons there, or just general information about this area?

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


Hooray we booked our Nagomi Visit and the family looks really fun :toot:

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
Prepaid SIM (for a docomo smartphone) recs? Would want a few gigs of data for Google Maps, minimal amount of talk time. Like I said before, if they require proof of residence I can always have my GF buy it for me.

Kessel posted:

IIRC there are basically three ways a residence card will be issued:
1) at certain airports together with your landing permission if you are staying mid/long-term and already have status;
2) at the immigration bureau when you go to convert your tourist visa/landing permission to a residence status;
3) by mail to your registered address after you prove your status to your municipal office.

As a tourist you won't be receiving one, ever.

Womp womp :negative:

I could have sworn you could maybe get one on the old system, but maybe that was only for working holiday visas (which Americans aren't eligible for).

kinmik
Jul 17, 2011

Dog, what are you doing? Get away from there.
You don't even have thumbs.
Like Tequila Sunrise, we'll also be living in Japan come July, except on Yokota Air Base in Fussa city. Is there any chance a kind goon or two would be willing to show me the ropes? Especially when it comes to JR passes. We lived in Misawa in Aomori prefecture four years ago and took a train once to Narita airport. While we did passably, it could have been smoother and missed a train once. I'd love to be able to show my parents around and not look like a complete fool when they inevitably visit.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

kinmik posted:

Like Tequila Sunrise, we'll also be living in Japan come July, except on Yokota Air Base in Fussa city. Is there any chance a kind goon or two would be willing to show me the ropes? Especially when it comes to JR passes. We lived in Misawa in Aomori prefecture four years ago and took a train once to Narita airport. While we did passably, it could have been smoother and missed a train once. I'd love to be able to show my parents around and not look like a complete fool when they inevitably visit.

If you're talking about the unlimited one that comes in 1, 2, and 3 week increments, you have to show a tourist visa in your passport to redeem the voucher. (IDK what SOFA status people do for visas but I'm pretty sure it's not that.) Your parents would be eligible for one when they come, but without a tourist visa yourself, you'd have to buy your tickets normally like a resident.

You could always leave Japan and re-enter on your regular US passport and receive a 90 day tourist visa, and redeem a JR Pass voucher that way, but I have a feeling both Immigration and the military would look askance at it. If you were doing a trip after your tour had ended and before you PCSed, you might be able to change to a tourist visa at the local Immigration office without leaving and re-entering Japan (can do it on a work visa, but again, not sure how it works with SOFA status), IIRC it costs like 40 bucks. Totally worth it if you're going to do any traveling by rail though.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

kinmik posted:

Like Tequila Sunrise, we'll also be living in Japan come July, except on Yokota Air Base in Fussa city. Is there any chance a kind goon or two would be willing to show me the ropes? Especially when it comes to JR passes. We lived in Misawa in Aomori prefecture four years ago and took a train once to Narita airport. While we did passably, it could have been smoother and missed a train once. I'd love to be able to show my parents around and not look like a complete fool when they inevitably visit.

You mean like the Suica etc. charge cards? If you live in Fussa you're probably gonna be using the train all the time while you're there, so don't sweat it too much.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

I got my JET placement and it looks like I'm going back to Tokyo. I really wanted to get placed in a city so I feel like this is a win even though I'm already familiar with the place. I'll take it.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Lol where in Tokyo, it is a huge region

Ganguro King
Jul 26, 2007

Hachijo-jima.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Ganguro King posted:

Hachijo-jima.

Psh, Miyake-jima

quote:

The residents of the island are required to carry gas masks with them at all times, but need not wear them constantly. Raid alarms go off if there is a dramatic increase in the levels of sulfur in the air.

:getin:

It's also an actual JET placement, or at least it has been up until relatively recently.

Not sure whether Hachijojima is or isn't... or if it was, if the ALT would occasionally chopper over to the elementary school on Aogashima (population: ~170, living on what is basically just a volcano caldera jutting out of the sea).

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

In nishi-tokyo not far from where I used to live, which is uncanny.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Busy Bee posted:

How's your Japanese and how often will you be on the bullet trains while you're there? I would highly recommend the Green Class if you can speak conversational Japanese because it is important when receiving the tickets at the reservation counter - Where are you going? Where do you want to sit? Aisle / Window? Do you want to be sitting behind each other or next to each other? What time do you want to go? Which train do you want to get on?

Green class is nice on all the bullet trains but if you know which train is the newest, you will get to experience the nicer green class. However, if you're going from Tokyo to Hiroshima, Regular Class would probably be the best. Unless you're going up north to Akita / Taking the new Hokuriku train / traveling south of Fukuoka.

I got the Green JR pass and used it on my Hikari trip from Nagoya to Hiroshima. It was really nice and I passed out immediately, but I was stuck on the Kodama and 8-car Hikari for all of my other shinkansen trips, so I didn't really get to use it that much. If you just get the normal JR pass and reserve a seat at the counter, you'll be more than fine.

Question time: I'm planning on going back to Japan next year near the end of March/beginning of April. I didn't plan my trip this year which was for half of March, and it bit me in the rear end a bit when I was trying to find hotels after once I was in the country. Is it a good idea to start booking hotels now for March/April 2016? I'm going to be mostly hanging out in Kansai (Osaka/Kobe, etc).

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Phone posted:

I got the Green JR pass and used it on my Hikari trip from Nagoya to Hiroshima. It was really nice and I passed out immediately, but I was stuck on the Kodama and 8-car Hikari for all of my other shinkansen trips, so I didn't really get to use it that much. If you just get the normal JR pass and reserve a seat at the counter, you'll be more than fine.

Question time: I'm planning on going back to Japan next year near the end of March/beginning of April. I didn't plan my trip this year which was for half of March, and it bit me in the rear end a bit when I was trying to find hotels after once I was in the country. Is it a good idea to start booking hotels now for March/April 2016? I'm going to be mostly hanging out in Kansai (Osaka/Kobe, etc).

Haha, yeah, the Kodama sucks if you're in a hurry. I remember the second time I visited, with a friend (this was before you could check Hyperdia on your smartphone), who insisted we grab the Kodama leaving in 5 minutes rather than waiting another 25 for the Hikari. Cue waiting as we stopped at every pissant station between Hiroshima and Osaka (or something, I forget the exact route).

That seems a little excessive, not sure you even can book quite that far out. My sample size is mostly Fukuoka (I lived about 90 minutes away, but if I was going out my options were either hotel, all-nighter, or catching the all-too-early last train home) but you could still get a cheap hotel any night of the week up to ~4 weeks out. Saturday nights would begin to fill up quickly around then, but most weekdays and even Fridays you'd be OK booking the week of, assuming there weren't any holidays or other special events. That said, if your travel plans lend themselves to booking in advance (staying in one place for a while), it can only help.

I feel like I post about this too often, but if you're winging it, love hotels are a solid bet. I don't think many take reservations, so you're on a level playing field with everyone else. Just rock up to a group of them around 9pm (or whatever the extra charge drops off the "stay" rate) and grab the cheapest room, probably 4-5,000 yen, which isn't much worse than a business hotel. I think most have a "no single occupancy" rule, but employees don't seem particularly fussed about enforcing it, although my GF and I did get flat-out turned away in the lobby in Hiroshima once, for being foreign. Have heard from both a love hotel employee and a taxi driver you're pretty much guaranteed not to get hassled if you say you're waiting for your GF to join you, then :shrug: when she doesn't show up by morning.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Lol no you don't need to book hotels a year in advance. Start next January.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
I tried booking a hotel 4 days out for both Osaka and Hiroshima, and I wound up in Kobe (wasn't bad, the hotel was kinda awful though) and Fukuyama (owned).

I was thinking about trying to get a train out to Tokyo from Fukuyama, and it was not happening. The Kodama from Hiroshima wasn't that bad.

Gabriel Grub
Dec 18, 2004

Phone posted:

Fukuyama (owned).

gently caress yeah!

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Lemmi Caution posted:

gently caress yeah!



Sixteenth floor of the Richmond.

Freaksaus
Jun 13, 2007

Grimey Drawer

peanut posted:

Lol no you don't need to book hotels a year in advance. Start next January.

I'm pretty sure most hotels in Japan don't even let you book your rooms more than 3 months in advance.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Thanks guys I ordered my Rail pass. Hopefully I get stuck in Fukuyama

I managed to find a stay in the Adachi ward (?) of Tokyo. Any tips for the area?

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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
Well, I didn't get lost coming from the airport, but I did do some dumb things and am trying to find where I could buy stuff to fix them:

1) Apparently pretty much none of the plugs here have a ground pin. Where could I buy a simple converter from US 3-pin to Japan 2-pin wall sockets for my laptop?

2) I rented a SIM card, but helpfully got a nano card despite my phone using a micro card (the next size up). Are there any shops where I could buy one in person? Amazon.co.jp definitely has them but not entirely sure how to use it, as it doesn't work with my US account. I think the Apple Store might have them despite me having a Nexus 4, but I'm not sure.

I'm near Akabanebashi metro in Tokyo. If anyone could point me in the right direction, any help would be much appreciated.

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