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Collusion between teams is something that should not be happening but always does. Some ways, like tactics, are impossible to regulate. Food and drinks have some regulations, but if a rider really needs food or drink his health is more important than concerns about collusion. Mechanical assistance is easier to regulate, so that's why there are strict rules about this. The rules are very clear that riders should not accept wheels from a rider from another team. This rule is more than 30 years old and has been enforced in the past, like when Romain Sicard almost lost the Tour de l'Avenir in 2009 or when Ventoso won the Tour of Hainan because of this rule (link). I can't read from the Meersman tweet what actually happened (did he get a wheel or was it other mechanical assistance? Was it the Sky team car or another rider?) so perhaps that's why there was no penalty there.The penalty for Porte may be harsh but the rule is a good idea. If Aru would flat in a critical moment and Cunego would give him a wheel or Inxhausti would assist Contador then everybody would howl and scream. Teams are racing to compete with each other, not form alliances on nationalistic grounds. Besides, Porte made a lot of mistakes yesterday. He stopped on the wrong side of the road, didn't draft properly. Another mistake he made was taking a wheel from a rider of a different team when his own team mates were near. If he had waited a little longer all this would have been avoided. Porte and Team Sky have no one but themselves to blame. Let's see if Porte can fight back like a true champion would. Three minutes is not that much in the end (Quintana was three and a half minutes behind at this point last year).
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# ? May 20, 2015 15:04 |
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African AIDS cum posted:Exactly, this is European sport, you can cheat and do favors, just not be in your face about it. Like when Contador gave stages to Tiralongo? in the giro who later helped him win the Vuelta. Thats how its done. I hope Porte is crying in his stupid little blood doping motor home right now Well, aren't you unpleasant. Seriously, lots of people around here hate Sky for being dopers but pull for Contador, who was convicted of doping. The logic as always astounds.
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# ? May 20, 2015 23:46 |
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There is literally nothing wrong with that position, Contador is euro as gently caress, Sky are a bunch marginal gains try hards. Case in point, Alberto attempting the Giro - Tour double, a fear with massive glory and historical significance. Froome, away on a secluded training camp will hope to capitalize on a fatigued rival.
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# ? May 21, 2015 00:07 |
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Pocket posted:There is literally nothing wrong with that position, Contador is euro as gently caress, Sky are a bunch marginal gains try hards. Case in point, Alberto attempting the Giro - Tour double, a fear with massive glory and historical significance. Froome, away on a secluded training camp will hope to capitalize on a fatigued rival. Doping's kind of a funny sideshow to me because everyone's doing it, but this sums it up when it comes to the actual racing, which is why we're all watching anyway.
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# ? May 21, 2015 01:16 |
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Xir posted:Well, aren't you unpleasant. As people have said before, the problem isn't that Sky is doing it, it's that they're doing it and going "neener neener neener, our scientists have more funding than yours" Although I've never got the Contador love either. I'll just sit over here in my corner and hope they pump sort of miracle juice in to Taylor Phinney to get him back up.
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# ? May 21, 2015 04:33 |
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Gibbo posted:As people have said before, the problem isn't that Sky is doing it, it's that they're doing it and going "neener neener neener, our scientists have more funding than yours" Didn't his surgeon say theres a large chance he's never gonna be back to the level he was before the accident? Such a shame what happened to him.
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# ? May 21, 2015 08:25 |
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serious gaylord posted:Didn't his surgeon say theres a large chance he's never gonna be back to the level he was before the accident? Such a shame what happened to him. I didn't hear that but just looking at the amount of damage he took, and it's pretty obvious that yeah, he'll never live up to what he could have been, and likely not even get back to where he was. Guess he can always coach USA Track. RIP
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# ? May 21, 2015 09:38 |
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Crazy descent going right now, crashes everywhere.
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# ? May 21, 2015 15:30 |
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Gerrans has crashed again.
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# ? May 21, 2015 15:30 |
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Paddyb posted:Crazy descent going right now, crashes everywhere. So slippy
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# ? May 21, 2015 15:35 |
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Lol all that confetti getting in the drive trains
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# ? May 21, 2015 15:37 |
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Strong showing from Gilbert there. Are people booing Astana on the ground or is it just an online thing?
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:01 |
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Slow burn finish, chuffed for PhilGil.
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:02 |
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That finish was made for Gilbert. I forgot he was even in the race.
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:02 |
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Aru was absolutely nowhere
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:03 |
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Aru was absolutely nowhere 2 stages in a row where hes been unable to follow Contador.
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:28 |
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I don't think Aru is in good shape.
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:29 |
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The face of pain, geez.
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:33 |
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Hes not going to enjoy the time trial.
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:33 |
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Looking at that picture some more, I really hope my pain cave face isn't that bad.
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:40 |
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I have a full on Voeckler gurn.
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# ? May 21, 2015 16:48 |
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I turn into the 1000 Year Old Man
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# ? May 21, 2015 18:11 |
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Maybe Astana has been burning it too hard the first half of the race.
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# ? May 21, 2015 18:51 |
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Russian Bear posted:Maybe Astana has been burning it too hard the first half of the race. I think their plan was to smash the first week and try to get Aru ahead on the early mountain finishes, doesn't seem to have worked out for them. I won't be surprised if he fades in the final week and doesn't make the podium.
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# ? May 21, 2015 20:29 |
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That's what I thought about Nibali in the tour last year, but he didn't have to fight off Contador in the third week.
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# ? May 22, 2015 00:42 |
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This guy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdXnTu7OGlA paddyboat fucked around with this message at 01:14 on May 22, 2015 |
# ? May 22, 2015 01:08 |
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Oh hey, it's gabba weather.
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# ? May 22, 2015 15:35 |
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Contador loses 30 seconds, porte another 2 minutes from a crash at under 3.1km's to go. They're not sure if it was in the 3km mark or not yet. Aru is in pink as it stands.
serious gaylord fucked around with this message at 16:23 on May 22, 2015 |
# ? May 22, 2015 16:20 |
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He will probably keep it for about 18 hours.
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# ? May 22, 2015 17:45 |
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Xir posted:Well, aren't you unpleasant. Yeah, probably because Contador got sanctioned but Porte and Froome went from nobodies to grand tour GC contenders overnight and nothing has happened to them.
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# ? May 22, 2015 23:31 |
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Pimp Cauldron posted:Yeah, probably because Contador got sanctioned but Porte and Froome went from nobodies to grand tour GC contenders overnight and nothing has happened to them. They didnt exactly come from nobodies. They're on poo poo, but lets not be hysterical now.
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# ? May 23, 2015 11:05 |
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Scratch that, everyone seems to be suffering now.
serious gaylord fucked around with this message at 14:50 on May 23, 2015 |
# ? May 23, 2015 14:25 |
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a 59k TT looks like the most miserable thing ever.
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# ? May 23, 2015 15:35 |
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tylertfb posted:a 59k TT looks like the most miserable thing ever. It's no picnic to watch either. Why are all these GC contenders so bad at time trialling?
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# ? May 23, 2015 15:38 |
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Paddyb posted:It's no picnic to watch either. Why are all these GC contenders so bad at time trialling? Apparently the wind has really picked up since the first guys finished.
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# ? May 23, 2015 15:48 |
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Contador don't care about no wind
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# ? May 23, 2015 15:58 |
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Paddyb posted:It's no picnic to watch either. Why are all these GC contenders so bad at time trialling? 14 seconds off first place over 59k isn't so bad.
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# ? May 23, 2015 15:59 |
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Paddyb posted:Contador don't care about no wind Its funny that there was any doubt to who was winning this Giro.
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# ? May 23, 2015 15:59 |
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He's a tiny machine.
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# ? May 23, 2015 16:00 |
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tylertfb posted:14 seconds off first place over 59k isn't so bad. I guess I meant "second place contenders". Contador can always knock out a good TT
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# ? May 23, 2015 16:08 |