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Snacksmaniac posted:This triggers me. How is this an acceptable thing?  v.Snacksmaniac posted:Paddy's Pub in south Philly. 
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Snacksmaniac posted:This triggers me. How is this an acceptable thing?  and not reprinting legacy staples like wasteland and FOW at uncommon
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May 23, 2015 00:29
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I ripped a foil Hierarch and a Mox Opal in the same pack today. 
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May 23, 2015 01:02
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I bet the guy who wrote the bad "satire" articles plays flip or rip
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May 23, 2015 01:19
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Snacksmaniac posted:Paddy's Pub in south Philly. lol
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May 23, 2015 01:30
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Toshimo posted:"Short-lived" in that it lasted for 7 years and had 20 sets. It was fun as gently caress, despite those things. It only really lasted as a thing at my store for like 2 years.
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May 23, 2015 01:55
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rabidsquid posted:I bet the guy who wrote the bad "satire" articles plays flip or rip Flip and rip monsters of magic: 1. Satire bros 2. Who judges the judge mans man 3. Hitler????
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May 23, 2015 01:56
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There was a fairly well connected community of card makers that were making new Raw Deal cards but they, of course, ran in to some copyright issues.
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May 23, 2015 01:59
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People spend money on all types of stupid poo poo who cares if they rip up magic cards? It's not like you were going to open those packs anyways.
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May 23, 2015 02:45
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Wezlar posted:People spend money on all types of stupid poo poo who cares if they rip up magic cards? It's not like you were going to open those packs anyways. Lighting money on fire is cooler, honestly.
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May 23, 2015 02:50
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Well, it seems my regular shop is finally loving up. Since the change to Fnm to allow other formats, Friday's seem to not be reliable anymore. Too often someone who isn't regular comes to the shop to play Fnm standard only to find out its modern, legacy, or commander. They don't clearly schedule what Fnm will be but instead its last minute decisions based on....  . Despite it being a Holliday weekend all the other shops fired off Fnm without issues while we argued about which format to play. What a waste. 
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May 23, 2015 02:59
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I fell right into the Domain trap today. Won't be making that mistake again. Still, casting things with Sunburst is still pretty fun in a "I will never willingly do this anywhere else ever again but I seem to have a board presence now" kind of way.
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May 23, 2015 03:04
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Ok, so here's a cool little writeup on how Raw Deal did a certain thing with deck construction (and a few other card games did to some extent as well). It's sort of a giant monolithic precuror to ~The Command Zone~ (or a spiritual successor to Vanguard) but with a lot more intricacy since it's designed into the game (well, it kept getting bolted on, in this case). So, you start with your superstar card:  The Heat Seekers Superstar - Tag Team Starting Hand Size: 8 Superstar Value: 7 Discard 2 cards: Exile 2 target cards from your graveyard. Shuffle another 2 target cards from your graveyard into your library. Then, choose one - * Draw 2 cards * Search your library for a Heel or Cheater card, reveal that card, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library. Activate this ability only during your turn and only once each turn. Pretty self-explanatory. By selecting this card, you also restrict yourself to only generic cards and The Heat Seekers branded cards. Superstar Value is occasionally referenced in the game (i.e. do X damage to a player where X is their Superstar Value), but the primary purpose is that the higher SV player goes first in each portion of the game. So, with that card, you may also reveal Backstage Area cards. Some Superstars let you reveal certain specific cards, but these guys don't, so you only get the generic cards: BACKSTAGE AREA (3) Backstage Signature - (Tournament Prize) Unique Backstage - Your opponent's Superstar Value is -1. Raw Deal 5th Anniversary - (Tournament Prize) Unique Backstage - Turn this card face down: Overturn 5 cards from your library. Then choose 5 cards in your graveyard and shuffle them into your library. Activate this ability only during your turn. WWE Signing Appearance - (Tournament Prize) Unique Backstage - Your Superstar value is +1. At the end of the Pre-match phase, each player may put a card from their hand on top of their library. Each player that does, draws a card. Now, here's the hitch: Everyone wants to play all 3 of these. They are basically 3 free cards in terms of deck construction, they each do something good, and they are all generic and unique. They are all also tournament prizes (see also: mechanically unique promos). Obviously, the Signature and Appearance cancel each other out for Superstar Value, but if you don't have them, WELP GET hosed. After you do all that, you move on to the Pre-match phase. Pre-match cards are part of what is, effectively, a 20-card sideboard, called a Backlash Deck, split evenly into 10 Pre-match and 10 Mid-match cards. The player can look at their Backlash Deck at any time, and play any card in the deck at its appropriate time (Pre-match - in the pre-match phase, Mid-match - during normal play, they have normal card types). Backlash cards are differentiated from normal cards easily as they are printed sideways. Normal cards cannot be part of the Backlash Deck. So, Superstar Values are checked, First Player is determined, then the following sequence happens: Active Player (AP) may play a Pre-Match Venue. Non-Active Player (NAP) may play a Pre-Match Venue. AP may play a Pre-Match Feud. NAP may play a Pre-Match Feud. AP may play a Pre-Match Stipulation. NAP may play a Pre-Match Stipulation. AP may play a Pre-Match Manager. NAP may play a Pre-Match Manager. AP may play a Pre-Match Feud. NAP may play a Pre-Match Feud. AP and NAP then take turns playing Pre-Match Objects and Events until both players pass consecutively (like MtG priority in phases). However, by default, each player can only play 5 of their 10 Pre-Match cards total. {Editor's Note: There's a few of terms you'll need to know to undersand this part: Active, Unique, and Universal. Unique: Restricted to 1 per deck. Active: Only 1 may be in play at a time. You may not play another until this one is removed. Universally Unique: No player may play another copy of this card. Universally Active: No player may play another card with the same Type.} So, the Pre-Match for this deck looked a little like this: BACKLASH DECK (20) Pre-match (10) On Your Home Turf - Universally Active Pre-Match Venue - (The Heat Seekers Branded) - Indestructible. At the end of the Pre-Match phase, your opponent may choose 4 cards from their hand, and place them on the bottom of their library. If they do not, they must exile 2 cards from their hand, chosen randomly. Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada - Universally Active Pre-Match Venue - Indestructible. Your Superstar value is -4. Your opponent's Superstar Value is -6. Bitter Rivals - Universally Unique Pre-Match Feud - If your SV is lower than your opponent's, you are the Active Player for the rest of the Pre-Match Phase. If your SV is greater than your opponent's, Title Belt cards cannot be played. If your SV is equal to your opponent's, choose either of the above options. Hell in a Cell Match - Active Pre-Match Stipulation - Indestructible. Run-in cards cannot be played. If a card would leave the graveyard due to any card or effect, instead it remains in the graveyard. Cards with the following brands are not affected by this card: Chris Jericho, Kane, Mankind, The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Triple H, The Undertaker, Kurt Angle, Cacust Jack, Deadman Inc, and Shawn Michaels. Managed by Vince McMahon - Universally Unique Pre-Match Manager - At the end of the Pre-Match Phase: Choose two - * Target Stipulation an opponent controls loses all abilities while this card is in play * Destroy target Title Belt an opponent controls * Return up to 2 cards from your graveyard to your hand. * +2 Mid-Match Card Limit while this card is in play. Managed by Terri Runnels - Universally Unique Pre-Match Manager Heel - Your opponent's Starting Hand Size is -1. Sacrifice this: Counter target card that allows your opponent to search his library for 1 or more cards. End the Turn. It’s All About the Game - Unique Pre-Match Event - Play only if you control no other Pre-match events. Your Starting Hand Size is -5. All players place all cards in their Backlash Deck into their graveyard. Calling You Out - Unique Pre-Match Event - Your opponent reveals their Backlash Deck. Choose 1 Pre-match Event or Object. Your opponent must play that card as their next Pre-match card, if possible. Old School Wrestling Match - Unique Pre-Match Event - The next Pre-match card played by your opponent loses all abilities before it enters the battlefield. At the end of the Pre-match phase, destroy that card. United States Title Belt - Universally Unique Pre-Match Object - (Smackdown Branded) - Your Superstar value is +1. Your opponent's Pre-match card limit is reduced by 1. Unfortunately, I realized about 75% of the way through that I accidentally chose a lousy example since the back half of the Pre-match deck is devoted to cancelling out your opponent's Pre-match cards, but... you get the idea. It's a neat thing I'd like to see some other CCGs do well. OG Star Trek CCG could spend as much time setting up the pre-game as actually playing, the poo poo was so intricate. I don;t think MtG could ever really go this way, but it's a fun thought exercise.
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May 23, 2015 03:44
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Got back from FNM, went 3-1, 11 packs into 33 storecred, got 3 MM15 packs. Spellskite, Eye of Ugin, the really bad Angel bulk rare, foil Expedition Map. I've got like 43 in storecred so I'm like, why not, three more. Fulminator Mage, Splinter Twin, All Sun's Dawn.  Edit: Collected Company is the real deal, with the only time I "whiffed" on Company being double Elvish Mystic, Surrak, and Stormbreath. I also like how it says "Look at" and not "Reveal". So I get to terrify people with the EoT CoCo, slam double Knuckleblade, untap, swing 8, pump and counter their downfall with Stubborn Denial. God I love Temur 
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May 23, 2015 03:52
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Count Bleck posted:Fulminator Mage, Splinter Twin, All Sun's Dawn. Fulminator Mage is a pretty good pull though. You came closer to breaking even than lots of people will on their impulse pack-cracking. 
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May 23, 2015 04:01
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please don't draft the domain deck in sealed it is just OK
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May 23, 2015 04:03
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Looks like wizards made an article about the big lgs I sometimes drive to. http://wpn.wizards.com/en/article/inside-worlds-most-successful-fnm
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May 23, 2015 04:04
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Wezlar posted:People spend money on all types of stupid poo poo who cares if they rip up magic cards? It's not like you were going to open those packs anyways.
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May 23, 2015 04:07
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Can't play live magic any time soon, so I dropped into the LGS and bought a pack just for the hell of it. They were $13 CAD each with GST which doesn't seem terrible. I'd love to hear what other Canadians are paying. Got a Karn Liberated, which is nice since I'm building a cube. Might see if I can squeeze in a DTK draft tonight. Wish I was good enough for 8-4s. The Swisses take forever.
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May 23, 2015 04:10
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I'm doing everything I can to keep myself from buying a box and just picking up the singles as they drop in price.
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May 23, 2015 04:18
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Currently 2-0 with suicide R/B against too many W/U decks. They all choked each other out and I drafted 3 Smash to Smithereens, 2 Combust, and a Goyf for which I picked three evolving wilds to splash. This will never happen again, I'm retiring from MM15 a champion .
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May 23, 2015 04:18
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Errant Gin Monks posted:I'm doing everything I can to keep myself from buying a box and just picking up the singles as they drop in price. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie_4GeX3ZF0 From Grimace to you.
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May 23, 2015 04:19
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Snacksmaniac posted:Paddy's Pub in south Philly. I am new in town and don't get this joke, I just want to play MtG here with some cool people
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May 23, 2015 04:26
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C-Euro posted:I am new in town and don't get this joke, I just want to play MtG here with some cool people That's the setting of the television show It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, which is a fictional tv show
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May 23, 2015 04:33
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Veyrall posted:I care. Because it's wasteful and bad-spirited. In much the same way that I dislike when people eat half of a pizza and throw the rest away. It doesn't matter who opens the packs, it's a loving scummy thing to do that just shows how much of an entitled fool a person is. Do you get mad at "entitled" people who put their money into literal slot machines too?
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May 23, 2015 04:50
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Did 3 drafts. Set is a lot of fun. Split two drafts with artifacts and then spirits and got my face beat in by r/w equipment the last draft.
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May 23, 2015 04:53
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Jabor posted:Do you get mad at "entitled" people who put their money into literal slot machines too? I would definitely mock them if they randomly dumped their winnings into a trashcan 50% of the time.
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May 23, 2015 04:56
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whydirt posted:I would definitely mock them if they randomly dumped their winnings into a trashcan 50% of the time. The EV you get from flip-and-ripping a pack is exactly half the EV of just opening it. (If you think otherwise you're bad at probability.) Veyrall was calling people "entitled" because they "waste" less than $2 of value in order to get some entertainment, so I was wondering what other forms of probabilistically-losing-money were also "entitled".
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May 23, 2015 05:07
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End of Life Guy posted:Currently 2-0 with suicide R/B against too many W/U decks. They all choked each other out and I drafted 3 Smash to Smithereens, 2 Combust, and a Goyf for which I picked three evolving wilds to splash. I'm telling you guys Force B/R IT IS NUTS
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May 23, 2015 05:10
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Jabor posted:The EV you get from flip-and-ripping a pack is exactly half the EV of just opening it. (If you think otherwise you're bad at probability.) Probably all the willfully destructive ones.
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May 23, 2015 05:22
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Jabor posted:Do you get mad at "entitled" people who put their money into literal slot machines too? Veyrall posted:I care. Because it's wasteful and bad-spirited. In much the same way that I dislike when people eat half of a pizza and throw the rest away. It doesn't matter who opens the packs, it's a loving scummy thing to do that just shows how much of an entitled fool a person is. These are both bad comparisons since the people playing slots are not reducing the supply of anything, and MtG cards are not literally needed for survival. I think playing flip and rip is pretty stupid, but I don't really buy the argument that it has much of an effect on the local market for cards. I mean, obviously it makes a small difference, but I would guess that things like speculation and hoarding of chase cards is a much bigger effect on how hard or easy it is to find a particular card to trade for.
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May 23, 2015 05:26
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Count Bleck posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie_4GeX3ZF0 Ha! I opened a case of MM1 and got nothing. A v clique and some ravagers, swords and garbage. Then my buddy got me a box for my wedding and I pulled my 4th and final goyf. My chances are not high with boxes.
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May 23, 2015 05:33
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Flip and rip is pretty awesome since anger at it is inevitably directed at the people playing it rather than at the conditions of artificial scarcity themselves. The only loser in a game of flip and rip is the spectator who gets mad when the destroyed cardboard resembles the cardboard that is currently under glass with a $40 price tag on it, rather than the cardboard that is in the wastebasket following a draft. All composite phenomena are impermanent. Death is certain.
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May 23, 2015 05:41
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I pulled 2 goyfs out of three draft packs tonight. Becouse of that and some money, I now own an LP English Moat I feel good about thius
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May 23, 2015 05:42
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JerryLee posted:Flip and rip is pretty awesome since anger at it is inevitably directed at the people playing it rather than at the conditions of artificial scarcity themselves. The only loser in a game of flip and rip is the spectator who gets mad when the destroyed cardboard resembles the cardboard that is currently under glass with a $40 price tag on it, rather than the cardboard that is in the wastebasket following a draft. All composite phenomena are impermanent. Death is certain. Burn my cards at my funeral pyre.
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May 23, 2015 05:47
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Trying to make any kind of "statement" by playing flip and rip is so loving weirdo mtg liberterian
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May 23, 2015 06:00
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My LGS manager was randomly opening packs for the store tonight as people were buying some. Kiki-Jiki, Foil Cryptic. Foil All is Dust. Foil Vendilion Clique! 2 (apparently. I only saw 1 myself) Karns. Says he's just gonna keep going like that 'til he hits a dud pack.
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May 23, 2015 06:15
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I just bought a single pack. Opened foil Spellskite. Should probably quit while I'm ahead. My friend bought a box. Opened 23 packs and his only Mythic was Comet Storm. He just opened the last pack a minute ago. Foil Goyf. 
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May 23, 2015 06:20
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qbert posted:I just bought a single pack. This story nearly had a happy ending
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AgentSythe posted:This story nearly had a happy ending The hype caused me to buy a 2nd pack. Surgical Extraction.  This is why gambling is bad.
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