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eschaton posted:I don't understand why someone with these opinions wouldn't embrace the platform and jump into swift I don't care about stebephone development
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Gul Banana posted:we're using the RC rather than wait for that v_v I will probably suggest as much if we split our codebase before the GM comes out
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May 23, 2015 13:50
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pram posted:like mentioning swift, or c# re: go is completely retarded for a lot of reasons. you aren't writing daemons in either of those. c# deploys to literally nothing useful. idk what bloody or sulk do professionally with that joke lang but its probably poo poo i use xamarin forms (which is poo poo for reasons that have nothing to do with c#) to write mobile apps that make my company money
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May 23, 2015 15:00
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whole lot of actual companies run .net stuff. it's arguably more of a pleasure to use than java
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May 23, 2015 15:02
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I'm an Erlang weenie and the C# and F# stuff looks pretty cool to me.
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May 23, 2015 16:01
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I'm amazed someone actually likes rob pike. Everything I've seen written by him makes him come off as an arrogant condescending douche who thinks he's smarter than he his.
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May 23, 2015 16:39
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MononcQc posted:I'm an Erlang weenie and the C# and F# stuff looks pretty cool to me. If c# had maven it would be the best language flat out, but until then it will be forever tied w/ java.
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May 23, 2015 17:01
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msbuild loving sucks. whoever is responsible for it realized build scripts are stupid but now why they're stupid
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May 23, 2015 17:02
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Down at Blue Mountain Capital this week, they work with C#, F# and R and maybe interesting to some people. They make some software that provides R style data frames for .NET (Deedle) and integration of R and F# within Visual Studio (F# R Type Provider) there are some demo videos showing R auto-complete within an F# codebase, kind of like LINQ for SQL. http://techblog.bluemountaincapital.com
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May 23, 2015 17:23
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triple sulk posted:i use xamarin forms (which is poo poo for reasons that have nothing to do with c#) to write mobile apps that make my company money lol isnt xamarin forms like the special ed version
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May 23, 2015 17:41
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xamarin is the worst possible argument for c#
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May 23, 2015 17:51
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i just realised that my code is naturally obfuscated because of the rediculous variable names and inherent duct tape structure
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May 23, 2015 18:03
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pram posted:lol isnt xamarin forms like the special ed version i never said it was good. it's mostly if you can get by with common UI elements but want dual platforms fleshweasel posted:xamarin is the worst possible argument for c# if i could be writing asp.net instead i would be
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May 23, 2015 18:22
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I mostly use c# for random one off things to talk to microcontrollers but I also used it to roll my own distributed computing system which was deffo one of the cooler things I've worked on
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May 23, 2015 18:34
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HappyHippo posted:I'm amazed someone actually likes rob pike. Everything I've seen written by him makes him come off as an arrogant condescending douche who thinks he's smarter than he his. huh thats funny. sounds like hed fit in here. maybe someone should buy him an account?
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May 23, 2015 18:55
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pram posted:it has a standard library that does pretty much everything out of the box. and the http server is great. what's great about the HTTP server?
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May 23, 2015 18:58
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eschaton posted:I don't understand why someone with these opinions wouldn't embrace the platform and jump into swift swift will be nice when your whole team doesn't have to stand in a room and click "install" on Xcode updates together
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May 23, 2015 18:59
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Subjunctive posted:what's great about the HTTP server? umm its great because it takes like two lines of code. and there are cool things like the facebook graceful package that handle graceful forking for you. https://github.com/facebookgo/grace
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May 23, 2015 19:02
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its kind of like rack and unicorn except not ruby and thus a horrible pos
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May 23, 2015 19:06
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pram posted:umm its great because it takes like two lines of code. and there are cool things like the facebook graceful package that handle graceful forking for you. ok, I wasn't sure if it was great because it actually had good functionality or because you didn't have to type many characters to get a weak HTTP server running. having to download a 3rd-party package to get graceful shutdown isn't quite where I would put the bar for a great HTTP server, given that even Apache has had that for decades, but it does indeed serve HTTP. bradfitz's http/2 work will probably be pretty good though, so there's that.
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May 23, 2015 19:10
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lol apache is absolute poo poo idiot
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May 23, 2015 19:13
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y'all being hilariously tori'd
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May 23, 2015 19:14
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Shaggar posted:If c# had maven it would be the best language flat out, but until then it will be forever tied w/ java. Java enums are better imo
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May 23, 2015 19:15
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nginx has graceful shutdown, but youre missing the point. they are only proxies unless you are using mod_*, and always a proxy in nginx unless the content is static. have you ever deployed a web app before?
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May 23, 2015 19:18
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pram posted:lol apache is absolute poo poo idiot that is exactly my point. it is a pos, but it had simple stuff like clean shutdown built in 20 years ago, unlike go's "great http server". what kinds of applications have you found go to be good for, yourself? building standalone http services?
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May 23, 2015 19:19
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yes rest services. rpc servers. it even does templating much like jinja or django, so you can use it like an mvc framework, and that is all in the standard library
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May 23, 2015 19:21
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pram posted:nginx has graceful shutdown, but youre missing the point. they are only proxies unless you are using mod_*, and always a proxy in nginx unless the content is static. have you ever deployed a web app before? oh, so graceful shutdown doesn't matter, but it's great that you can get it from a third party. real feather in go's cap. I have deployed a lot of web apps, going back to before Apache existed.
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May 23, 2015 19:22
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pram posted:it even does templating much like jinja or django, so you can use it like an mvc framework hmm, that seems good
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May 23, 2015 19:22
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the standard library has templating, but map/reduce or generics are unnecessary baggage. ok, you got me, I'm being trolled.
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May 23, 2015 19:23
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Subjunctive posted:oh, so graceful shutdown doesn't matter, but it's great that you can get it from a third party. real feather in go's cap. you dont get it. it doesnt matter if apache or nginx have graceful shutdown. they are only proxying the connection to the application server. the server itself needs to gracefully handle forking. this is easy in go
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May 23, 2015 19:24
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Subjunctive posted:what's great about the HTTP server? net/http/pprof is great about the http server but really only underscores that the only use go is intended and suited for is writing micro rest services that read from other rest services and do some trivial transforms on the data and stream out the results (and probably leak some goroutines along the way, lol)
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May 23, 2015 19:27
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Subjunctive posted:the standard library has templating, but map/reduce or generics are unnecessary baggage. so you don't know anything about go but it just pains your butt that it doesn't have map and reduce in the standard lib? lol get a grip you dork
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May 23, 2015 19:34
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Shaggar posted:msbuild loving sucks. whoever is responsible for it realized build scripts are stupid but now why they're stupid MSBuild came from MS seeing that people were using NAnt and decided to replicate it, just like they did with NUnit
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May 23, 2015 19:52
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Luigi Thirty posted:[ask] me about 6502 assembly you might want to take a look at this
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May 23, 2015 19:55
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eschaton posted:MSBuild came from MS seeing that people were using NAnt and decided to replicate it, just like they did with NUnit nant and msbuild are both way the gently caress better than what people were using before. they just look lame and bad compared to maven. the gap between ant and maven is as big as the gap between makefiles and ant.
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May 23, 2015 19:57
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eschaton posted:you might want to take a look at this "whoa" --neo, the matrix
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pram posted:so you don't know anything about go but it just pains your butt that it doesn't have map and reduce in the standard lib? lol get a grip you dork only being able to write for loops in a modern language is hilarious and bad for loops are really bad. i do agree with you about the http server thing though. like when you combine it with something like docker you can get a little web service going really really quickly and that's cool.
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I like linq
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doing things over collections without giving a poo poo about janitoring the collection is nice.
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Bloody posted:I like linq me too, bloody. me too.
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