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Dik Hz posted:Use first initial, middle name, last name. I have colleagues in your boat and they both do that. So M. Alex Smith. Or C. Montgomery Burns.
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MickeyFinn posted:Or C. Montgomery Burns.  How have I never thought of this
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This is my first draft of a resume that needs to be brought to life. I would appreciate some input on the substance of the resume and if there are better ways to word it. Thanks in advance for the help. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I2eFeX4mU9CdyKaTmYSMmU6O9UI0L1MRzzZiu-27Wp4/edit?usp=sharing
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Veskit posted:This is my first draft of a resume that needs to be brought to life. I would appreciate some input on the substance of the resume and if there are better ways to word it. Thanks in advance for the help. I have no idea what you want to do or what your next step is. This document needs serious tailoring for a particular job or at least class of jobs. Right now, it's just a mishmash of everything you've ever done. Delete stuff until you have a coherent story to show why you're qualified for whatever job you're going for (IT project management?) Also, I want a work crew gang tag 
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Bisty Q. posted:I have no idea what you want to do or what your next step is. This document needs serious tailoring for a particular job or at least class of jobs. Right now, it's just a mishmash of everything you've ever done. Delete stuff until you have a coherent story to show why you're qualified for whatever job you're going for (IT project management?) It sounds like I'll have to make two of them because currently applying for supervisory roles or project managerial type roles within my specific company. Give me a day or two and I'll work on that. Right now it's a general one, which I can already tell is one of my first mistakes with it. Also I have a strange job history so I'm trying not to show gaps with it while also give a specific story. How do you show your jobs and skills have worked up to the point where you're at now? I'll come up with a better draft within a couple days. I mean if you want a work crew tag how bout you show up in work crew from time to time. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3690783&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 I promise everyone is friendly and open to work chat but a lot of times it's a place to talk about stuff during work hours and is safe to talk about during work hour times.
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May 25, 2015 05:43
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Veskit posted:It sounds like I'll have to make two of them because currently applying for supervisory roles or project managerial type roles within my specific company. Give me a day or two and I'll work on that. Right now it's a general one, which I can already tell is one of my first mistakes with it. Also I have a strange job history so I'm trying not to show gaps with it while also give a specific story. How do you show your jobs and skills have worked up to the point where you're at now? I'll come up with a better draft within a couple days. This is especially true when you're applying for internal promotions. You should only list jobs if they have relevant experience for your next role or if you otherwise have an extremely important reason to put it there (they're a big client of yours, for example). There's no regulation that your resume list every job you've ever had (and as you continue to become more senior in your career it makes you look a little silly if it does), only the ones that are relevant to the work. Do you think people applying for VP jobs list that one summer they worked at Cold Stone when they were 19?
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May 25, 2015 14:09
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To expand on this for non-relevant employment that last a significant amount of time, a good option is just to push them to the end of your resume and, depending on the job, include a description or don't even. This way, you account for your time but don't waste a lot of space.
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May 26, 2015 14:56
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Are cold call emails asking about a potential jobs even worthwhile to do? I see tons of companies that don't have career sections and such. What do you even put in one?
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May 26, 2015 16:53
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Hello there. I just found out today that my department is being laid off in the next month or so. I haven't touched my resume in a while and I'd like some critique on what I have. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_nphot9YMq2E5SO7N0872sDp6luG9f-hnq-z5IiHMTs/edit?usp=sharing I'm looking for suggestions on the entire resume, from format to content to anything else. I do have a couple of questions to start with: Company B merged with Company A and I've noted that on my resume. Is this the best way to go about it? My duties changed pretty significantly over time at the new company but I'm wondering what looks better for me: the two entries like I have now or one larger entry with a longer work span. Some of my duties are hard to quantify- Developed, implemented, and maintained [product name] property adjusting tool. Designed and built automated electronic forms for [product name] users. Those didn't involve using an actual coding language, I worked in a couple of internal tools that allowed me to build very specific types of software. Obviously this isn't as valuable as knowing a general language but surely this counts for something. To expand on this, the property adjusting tool involved knowing the ins and outs of home construction as well as the ability to create some pretty technical mathematical formulas. Any help would be seriously appreciated.
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May 26, 2015 21:15
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I'm pretty upset at the moment. I had an interview about a week ago that I thought went really well, but today I hear back from the recruiter that while the person I interviewed with (a part-time HR manager) thought I was qualified and liked me, she 'wasn't sure the culture would be a good fit' and decided to pass on me. Like what the gently caress? I'm applying for an accounting job at a small flooring company, not the Russian Embassy. What the gently caress am I supposed to do, a song-and-dance for them? It's especially galling because I was supposed to meet with the controller, but he was out for some reason. I'm just so sick of this.
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May 27, 2015 17:46
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"because culture" is a contrived, catch-all justification for passing on someone if you don't want to give the real reason to the recruiter or candidate.
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May 27, 2015 18:24
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tirinal posted:"because culture" is a contrived, catch-all justification for passing on someone if you don't want to give the real reason to the recruiter or candidate.
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May 27, 2015 18:31
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If a company I interned for (that's recent enough to be on my resume in the first place) changed its name after I left, should I switch to the new name in my resume, stick with the old one, or somehow mention both?
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May 27, 2015 19:53
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Do you think one name has more name recognition than the other? If not, it doesn't matter though you could always do "Old Name (now known as New Name)" or vice versa.
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May 27, 2015 20:14
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I subjected myself to an infomercial earlier today about a cover letter-writing service today, and they led by advertising "the secret cover letter sentence that 99.9% of people don't even think about!" Turns out the whole secret was to include a postscript on your resume, have any of you ever seen a cover letter with a PS on it? Also if I have a recruiter who I was introduced to by an exec at my last job, and I called her earlier and she said "give me 10-15 minutes to wrap up this other call" an hour ago, do I call back now or try again tomorrow?
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May 27, 2015 20:59
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I don't hire people so I don't see cover letters but I think I'd actually chuckle if I saw a PS PS pls hire me PPS - actually I'd call back the recruiter now and leave a VM if no answer.
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May 27, 2015 21:00
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Which seems like a good place to drop this anecdote: I know this guy, a German scientist, who heads a lab in a UK university. A nice guy but pretty German - non-demonstrative, phlegmatic, stolid. We were talking one day and he started to rant about the job applications he gets from "Americans": * CV's that list prizes for spelling bees won in kindergarden or school awards with titles like "The Cedric P. Fogelmeyer Award for Young Pioneer Eagles" * A cover letter that ended "It has always been my dream to work in X. Will you help my dream come true?" * People who list hobbies, pastimes or other out of hour activities like D&D or surfing * CV's decorated with clipart He finished, drew a big breath and said, "Seriously, what is this poo poo? I just want someone to work in a lab ..."
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May 28, 2015 13:15
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When I was job hunting last year my mom got really mad at me for removing the "university" summer course I "took" when I was 4 years old off of my resume. I was a certified gruzzle hunter.
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May 28, 2015 16:09
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Quick question about my application package: I'm a year away from completing my bachelor's degree in accounting. So far, I've been able to achieve just about every possible academic honour possible at my university, and have supplemented that with community involvement when time allowed it. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get into the co-op program, since I already have an undergraduate degree and second-degree students are disqualified from co-op. As a result, I've had to attempt to cobble together some relevant experience on my own, and the search has yet to bear fruit - in two years of trying, I've sent out hundreds of applications, and have yet to receive a single call back from any of them. I've taken advice from resume and cover letter experts and spent hours tailoring packages to applications, and nothing has worked. At this point, nobody I ask seems to have a clue what I'm doing wrong. I'm beginning to think that, despite being advised to include it by everyone I've asked, including references to my previous degree might be holding me back. The degree in question is a Bachelor of Journalism, and most advisors I've talked to seemed to think it would indicate that I have better-developed communication skills than most accounting majors; however, I'm beginning to think that those who view my resume see my first degree, consider me too old to be applying for "student" positions, and don't give me a second thought. Should I continue to include my first degree in my job applications? I'm starting to be quite concerned - the last thing I want is to get out of school next year, have nobody hire me because of a lack of experience, and wind up with two degrees' worth of student loan debt and a dead-end, minimum-wage job in the mall (again).
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May 28, 2015 18:56
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Question about an entry on my resume. I have about a 2.5 year period where I was between jobs. I'm sure it looks questionable when I don't account for it but I'm not sure how to because I was helping with several family emergencies. Stuff like day to day care for my elderly grandma, helping my parents retire and move cross country, helping both my military brothers move cross country. Any thoughts on if/how I should account for it?
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May 28, 2015 23:38
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So you guys wouldn't recommend using those resume services from SA Mart or elsewhere? I've come to realize I'm absolutely poo poo at conveying stuff down in writing and wouldn't mind just paying someone to help me get in the door.
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May 29, 2015 21:44
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If you're absolutely poo poo at conveying things in writing, the RTI service is worthwhile. I'm less enthusiastic about them than the goonmind consensus, for a number of reasons, but if you have no experience in writing a resume it's better than beating your head against the wall.
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May 29, 2015 21:54
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iroc.dis posted:Question about an entry on my resume. I have about a 2.5 year period where I was between jobs. I'm sure it looks questionable when I don't account for it but I'm not sure how to because I was helping with several family emergencies. Stuff like day to day care for my elderly grandma, helping my parents retire and move cross country, helping both my military brothers move cross country. Any thoughts on if/how I should account for it?
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May 29, 2015 22:34
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tirinal posted:If you're absolutely poo poo at conveying things in writing, the RTI service is worthwhile. I'm less enthusiastic about them than the goonmind consensus, for a number of reasons, but if you have no experience in writing a resume it's better than beating your head against the wall. Yeah, I agree with this thought. If you know you just can't figure out words, it is probably worth paying someone to give you some words.
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May 29, 2015 23:12
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Boris Galerkin posted:So you guys wouldn't recommend using those resume services from SA Mart or elsewhere? I've come to realize I'm absolutely poo poo at conveying stuff down in writing and wouldn't mind just paying someone to help me get in the door. If you're writing a resume for the first time and have the cash to spare I say go for it, I bought the SA-Mart service while applying for my first job a couple summers ago and I was pretty pleased with the results. At the same time I don't think I'd buy it again unless I was really desperate or was shooting for a big promotion, as I learned enough from that process to feel confident in updating my resume on my own. If you're not sure where to start, that's a good first step.
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C-Euro posted:If you're writing a resume for the first time and have the cash to spare I say go for it, I bought the SA-Mart service while applying for my first job a couple summers ago and I was pretty pleased with the results. At the same time I don't think I'd buy it again unless I was really desperate or was shooting for a big promotion, as I learned enough from that process to feel confident in updating my resume on my own. If you're not sure where to start, that's a good first step. Echoing this as I think the process you go through will help you think about your accomplishments differently in the future.
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I had another all time great line in a resume yesterday. Someone had been working at a dog hotel and one of their listed duties was: "Create and maintain a sense of order for dogs in the activity area." This job can be so frustrating, though. God save me from people hoping to relocate from x flyover state to NYC, California or some other insanely desirable area. Every time: "Well I'm making __ money as an x in Findlay, Ohio, but I want the same job in San Fransisco. Oh, I'll need a huge raise too because it's way more expensive over there. What? No, I don't have any connections and I've never lived on the west coast." It's like they haven't thought a single instant about why it's more expensive to live there.
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May 30, 2015 19:11
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Dik Hz posted:
Thanks for the help! I decided not ot apply for the job, but I did go ahead and polish up the resume just in case.
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May 30, 2015 22:17
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Oh man, one of my high school has her resume posted on her public website. This is simultaneously the most impressive and most poorly together resume that I've ever come across. Maybe she's never needed to craft a good resume since her accomplishments simply stand on their own. I assume this is kosher to post since she has it listed publicly on her website, will remove if it's not. e: removed link bamhand fucked around with this message at 04:53 on May 31, 2015 |
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May 31, 2015 03:29
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bamhand posted:Oh man, one of my high school has her resume posted on her public website. This is simultaneously the most impressive and most poorly together resume that I've ever come across. Maybe she's never needed to craft a good resume since her accomplishments simply stand on their own. Worst 2nd page ever. But it probably is not kosher to post here; it's still uncool to expose someone's personal information to the wild that is SA.
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May 31, 2015 04:44
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Bisty Q. posted:Worst 2nd page ever. Alrighty, still though how does that happen? You list that you play hockey and was captain of the debate team right up there with saying you're CEO/CFO/founder of multiple successful economic development organizations. Also you've gotten straight A's from high school through grad school.
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bamhand posted:Alrighty, still though how does that happen? You list that you play hockey and was captain of the debate team right up there with saying you're CEO/CFO/founder of multiple successful economic development organizations. Also you've gotten straight A's from high school through grad school. There isn't some rule out there that says you have to have a good resume to get hired or anything. It is just a tool and some people don't need it. If you sent out pictures of your rear end in a top hat and got offers from places you want to work, would you change what you were doing?
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I mean, yeah, I probably would stop sending pictures of my rear end in a top hat regardless.
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Formatting question: I hold a specific license in a specific field, and have worked in three clinical settings over the past five to six years. While I've done similar work at each clinic, each setting also supplied different challenges and thus different applications of similar skills. I'm trying to update my resume in such a way as to avoid redundancy but without leaving out the bits that made each position unique. For example: code:The other style I'm considering would be something like this: code:Any advice? For the record, I've gotten hired with no problem at the past two clinics I've been at using the first style, but now that I've added more to it, the document is becoming more unwieldy and I think it's time for a formatting change.
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68k posted:Formatting question:
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This might be the best place to ask this: I saw a job posting that I'm really interested in, I'm almost positive I won't get a callback but I definitely won't if I don't try. My boss has in the past said she is alright with us looking at other employment opportunities but she would prefer we tell her so there aren't any last minute "surprise I'm quitting" instances. I'd like not only to tell her, but to ask for a reference as well. I'm a little nervous to do that, she's generally approachable but can anyone offer advice on the type of language I could use when asking? I like my job but it's contractual on a year to year basis and that's not ideal for me for job security.
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Don't tell your boss you're applying for a new job, tell her when you get an offer and give reasonable notice.
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I should clarify that she isn't really a typical boss, I work for an academic institution and my department is pretty holistic, she's been great for giving me many new opportunities, including hiring me, a young recent grad right out of grad school so I feel confident she would give me a good reference. I would feel bad to go behind her back basically when she has explicitly asked me not too, should I still err on the side of caution and not ask? She'd be a very powerful ally and her professional reputation is very established so it'd be nice to have her as someone to positively speak on my behalf. Also, I'm putting together my resume and cover letter and I'd like to make it impactful and present myself as a genuinely worthwhile investment as an employee, what's a good way to say "what I lack in years I make up for in tenacity"?
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If the contractual nature of your job has you feeling less secure, just tell her that's the reason you're looking for a new job. If she's had people in this role before you then surely she would understand your motivations for leaving, you most likely won't be the first person to leave such a role under her. Is she expecting you to stay there forever? What sort of role do you have relative to her?Toriori posted:what's a good way to say "what I lack in years I make up for in tenacity"? In my experience there isn't really a way, you just have to have the experience :/ Even with only one job providing 18 months of professional work experience I'm getting way more calls from recruiters and staffing groups now than when I was looking for that first job (now if only they would get me interviews  ). You could get a little more creative with how your life experiences have given you workplace-applicable skills, or pull specific examples from your current role that might translate well into the working world. Getting that first job after you finish school sucks, I was miserable during the search and my fiancee was miserable looking for hers last winter/spring (though she landed her own long-shot role, so don't despair too hard!)
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Actually the position I'm in is brand new basically, created by her and I am the first person to have it haha. It'll be two years in the fall. She seems very understanding of the lack of stability and discomfort brought on by contract work like that but I do want some honest opinions about asking her.
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