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Valeyard
Mar 30, 2012


Grimey Drawer
reply is NOT google search :argh:

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Valeyard posted:

why use lisp in 2015

the same reasons as in 2005 and 1995


you can read that two ways. both are valid

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
dammit thread i wanted to post about webdev on page 404 :(

pram
Jun 10, 2001

Valeyard posted:

why use lisp in 2015

because theyre idiots

pram
Jun 10, 2001
the only acceptable options in this thread are hilariously useless functional languages or full retard on the microsoft stack

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
jython is good, it combines all the best parts of both java and python

jony neuemonic
Nov 13, 2009

Valeyard posted:

why use lisp in 2015

uniform syntax and macros.

or stockholm syndrome.

pram
Jun 10, 2001
why not groovy

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
dont worry pram, the microsoft stack is headed to unix and it will be better than anything currently available on unix

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
microsoft porting the .net stack to unix is lol

do they want to become borland?

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

pram posted:

why not groovy

unironically better than jython

pram
Jun 10, 2001
they have no choice. windows is a type of famous sinking ship, chairs and all

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

pram posted:

the only acceptable options in this thread are hilariously useless functional languages or full retard on the microsoft stack

nah there's at least one nutjob in the thread that thinks you should use go for everything

Dessert Rose
May 17, 2004

awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:

nah there's at least one nutjob in the thread that thinks you should use go for anything

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=
is this TBC's new gimmick?

java, python and c++ are langs that are not utterly terrible and there's discussion about them in this thread that isn't just "oh it's poo poo."

mostly it's go and js that get that for some weird reason

pram
Jun 10, 2001

rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:

nah there's at least one nutjob in the thread that thinks you should use go for everything

I do most of my programming in Java you dunce

pram
Jun 10, 2001
its mostly a bunch of retards who don't know anything about go having a hernia about it and it bringing me great pleasure

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
I don't know anything about Go other than It's Bad

pram
Jun 10, 2001
it isnt bad

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
it's pretty bad.

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
it sounds like it's not that bad, but not that good.

Valeyard
Mar 30, 2012


Grimey Drawer
I want to use that Hugo thing but dont really have any reason to atm

pram
Jun 10, 2001

fleshweasel posted:

it sounds like it's not that bad, but not that good.

its actually extremely good for the stuff i described which is why it has seen adoption in places like cdns, services like sendgrid, etc. just admit you dont know anything about it and stfu

oh no blimp issue
Feb 23, 2011

i knew asking about web poo poo would make people very angry

pram
Jun 10, 2001
look, this awia guy asks 'what should i do web poo poo in' and the shambling morons itt unironically advocate loving lisp which just barely has a working http server and a handful of unmaintained micro frameworks

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
I predict in five years time no one will give a drat about Go.

Common Lisp is immortal tho.

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

so's fortran but that doesn't mean new software should be written in it

pram
Jun 10, 2001
symbolics is making a comeback

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=

Bloody posted:

so's fortran but that doesn't mean new software should be written in it

i'm fluent in fortran but that fact is absolutely not going anywhere near my cv...

Valeyard
Mar 30, 2012


Grimey Drawer

gonadic io posted:

i'm fluent in fortran but that fact is absolutely not going anywhere near my cv...

man, that haskell fortran parser exercise you helped me with was MADE for you

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

unironically better than jython

very likely true, i guess the main thing i'm looking for in a plang on the jvm is "can i use this to mash together our existing java stuff and our existing python stuff into one huge pile of poo poo that more or less works when the stars are right" and it's hard to beat jython in that niche

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

gonadic io posted:

i'm fluent in fortran but that fact is absolutely not going anywhere near my cv...
you're like 25

why on earth are you fluent in fortran

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




Bloody posted:

so's fortran but that doesn't mean new software should be written in it

Someone should tell this to astrophysicists.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

pram posted:

the only acceptable options in this thread are hilariously useless functional languages or full retard on the microsoft stack

*softly whispering in your ear* play fsharp my lord

pram
Jun 10, 2001

NihilCredo posted:

*softly whispering in your ear* play fsharp my lord

:newlol:

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=

coffeetable posted:

you're like 25

why on earth are you fluent in fortran

was a uni maths module, wrote some numerical integration tools in python and fortran.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

pram posted:

look, this awia guy asks 'what should i do web poo poo in' and the shambling morons itt unironically advocate loving lisp which just barely has a working http server and a handful of unmaintained micro frameworks

so its on par w/ go then.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt


i was joking

everybody's moved on to fstar already

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

:pram:

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pram
Jun 10, 2001

Shaggar posted:

so its on par w/ go then.

shagger !!! :iamafag: but no not really. for example this is a bigger framework that has an orm and the whole nine yards (go is actually really popular in china)

http://beego.me/

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