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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'm sure words gets around pretty fast in the biz, Raven probably knew somebody who had first hand knowledge of the situation. I think it was from a shoot video where Raven and Honky started going down scummy_wrestling_stories.txt one by one and talking about them. I can only find the first 10 minutes of it and I don't know what the hell DVD it's from but I want to see the rest.
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Has anyone ever commented on how much those stupid shoot interviews pay? There's a few guys who seem to do as many of them as possible and almost every retired wrestler has done at least one.
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May 24, 2015 21:47
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Has anyone ever commented on how much those stupid shoot interviews pay? There's a few guys who seem to do as many of them as possible and almost every retired wrestler has done at least one. I'd imagine the rate depends on the level of stardom you've achieved. Warlord ain't gettin' the same amount of money that Kevin Nash gets.
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May 24, 2015 22:06
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So does everyone WWE hires go into NXT now? I was thinking about what wrestlers are out there that would/could be hired straight into the main roster. I mean, there was Sting but that was a one time thing. Who else?
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May 24, 2015 22:57
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Liam Emsa posted:So does everyone WWE hires go into NXT now? I was thinking about what wrestlers are out there that would/could be hired straight into the main roster. I mean, there was Sting but that was a one time thing. Who else? Sin Cara
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May 24, 2015 23:03
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I remember Kenta was offered the choice of whether he wanted to start in NXT or not, he said he did.
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May 24, 2015 23:07
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I don't think that's true? who said that
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Yeah, wasn't part of the deal was that KENTA had to spend a bunch of time in NXT to learn English and adjust his wrestling style? If he went straight to the main roster he would've been a bigger flop than Mistico.
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May 25, 2015 00:59
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Yeah, Devitt should've spent no more than 4-6 weeks while he fine tuned hiis entrance and move set, but KENTA has a definite need for developmental with the language barrier and how much his moveset was impacted
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May 25, 2015 01:29
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Is there a particular reason why WWE never seems to talk about Victoria? She seemed like a shoo-in for a lot of countdown programming like the Best Finishers special or the Countdown episode about top divas but she seems to have been stricken from the record. She was pretty much a comedy act for her last couple years in the company so it's probably not a TNA thing. For that matter, they never really seem to talk about Jazz or Molly Holly either. Do they have dirt on all of them or is history telling us that the women's division post-Attitude was just Trish and Lita?
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May 25, 2015 01:36
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She's talked poo poo after leaving, I think.
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Dr. rear end posted:Is there a particular reason why WWE never seems to talk about Victoria? She seemed like a shoo-in for a lot of countdown programming like the Best Finishers special or the Countdown episode about top divas but she seems to have been stricken from the record. She was pretty much a comedy act for her last couple years in the company so it's probably not a TNA thing. Trish and Lita were the stars and are on good terms, so there's no need for everyone else. Pretty sure Jazz and Victoria have heat, but Jazz wasn't that big of a star. Molly is loved backstage and considered one of the best human being in wrestling but is voluntarily, completely out of the business.
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May 25, 2015 03:31
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i don't think victoria has any heat with the office but they barely paid attention to her while she was there so just par from the course now that she's not
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Based on how often wrestlers did appearances at her restaurant and how she was always visiting backstage, I don't think Victoria has heat. WWE can't be bothered to pay attention to active women on their roster, so talking about a past wrestler who isn't Sable or Trish is beyond what they are willing to do.
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May 25, 2015 04:36
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IronCladBurrito posted:Sin Cara sin cara is, in fact, the reason everyone most go to NXT before the main roster
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May 25, 2015 04:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YvDfiAXT8 Is that seriously the real Chavo Sr? Flipping from the top rope and everything?
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May 25, 2015 11:19
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SirDippingSauce posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YvDfiAXT8 Haha that's no flip it's just him jumping backwards off the top rope. That's him though.
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May 25, 2015 11:28
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LvK posted:Fujinami and Inoki also both technically worked for the WWE, through transitive properties (Fujinami through several NWA-involved feds, most notably WCW, JCP, and UWF; Inoki through AWA and WWWF) which, with current outlook, I see being an obstacle for NJPW's aces. I'd be surprised if they didn't give at least Ultimo the nod sometime, especially because the website used to love trotting him out as a highly-decorated standout of WCW Actually both Inoki & Fujinami worked at least one match on WW(W?)F cards in Madison Square Garden.
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May 25, 2015 11:29
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I've been watching some lucha and something piqued my interest. Before the start of the match, the announcer says who is rudo and who is technico. Why is this? This seems like a kayfabe killer. Unless it's just me loving up Spanish, of course goc posted:Actually both Inoki & Fujinami worked at least one match on WW(W?)F cards in Madison Square Garden. Inoki even held the WWWF title.
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May 25, 2015 16:50
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Smoking Crow posted:I've been watching some lucha and something piqued my interest. Before the start of the match, the announcer says who is rudo and who is technico. Why is this? This seems like a kayfabe killer.
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May 25, 2015 16:51
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goc posted:How is that a kayfabe killer? It's not any different than referring to someone as a fan favorite or mentioning how they are hated by the crowd. The line between rudo & technico is VERY clear in lucha. It would be weird if Lillian Garcia came out on Raw and said "For the purposes of this match, John Cena will be your babyface!"
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May 25, 2015 16:53
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They send everyone through NXT because they want to give NXT credit for building the next generation of guys. It's that simple, really.
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May 25, 2015 16:53
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Smoking Crow posted:It would be weird if Lillian Garcia came out on Raw and said "For the purposes of this match, John Cena will be your babyface!" Lucha is not WWE. It would also be weird if guys on Raw started doing a whole lot of rolling bumps.
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May 25, 2015 16:54
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Smoking Crow posted:I've been watching some lucha and something piqued my interest. Before the start of the match, the announcer says who is rudo and who is technico. Why is this? This seems like a kayfabe killer. oh, hey, I guess he DID get it from Backlund on a house show. Also WWWF made a special title for him that he carried for eleven years. And I guess it turns out that they used the belt for a different title for a very short time. I love when retired titles accidentally end up staying in Japan for decades.
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May 25, 2015 17:36
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Smoking Crow posted:It would be weird if Lillian Garcia came out on Raw and said "For the purposes of this match, John Cena will be your babyface!" The terms heel and babyface are occasionally used in promos/commentary in Japan too. Watch any Mutoh match from the late '80s/early '90s and you'll hear the announcers going on about "WCW Toppu Heelu"
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May 25, 2015 17:44
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goc posted:Lucha is not WWE. It would also be weird if guys on Raw started doing a whole lot of rolling bumps. Speaking of bumps, are rolling bumps any safer than regular ones?
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May 25, 2015 21:48
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Smoking Crow posted:Speaking of bumps, are rolling bumps any safer than regular ones? I would imagine since there are way more old lucha dudes still wrestling than old American wrestlers. To go back to the rudo/tecnico thing, they still treat lucha like a real sport. Just think of rudo/tecnico as the opposing teams in a sporting contest. goc fucked around with this message at 21:55 on May 25, 2015 |
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May 25, 2015 21:53
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"Heel" is a word that USED to mean "untrustworthy", it's like old speak that the carny wrestlers picked up (like "mark" isn't a term exclusive to wrestling). So it doesn't break kayfabe to me, it's just a term for "baddie" without necessarily implying "this guy is playing the role of bad guy". Also:
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May 25, 2015 21:55
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Smoking Crow posted:Speaking of bumps, are rolling bumps any safer than regular ones? I would imagine so since you're translating some of that momentum into the roll rather than just getting slammed onto your bodyparts.
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May 25, 2015 22:04
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Smoking Crow posted:Speaking of bumps, are rolling bumps any safer than regular ones? They use a lot of rolling bumps in Mexico because the rings are rock loving hard, so yeah, for their purposes they're much safer.
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triplexpac posted:They send everyone through NXT because they want to give NXT credit for building the next generation of guys. It's that simple, really. I thought it was also because Original Sin Cara was such a loving disaster. And the guys down there now who are complete are learning how to work to the WWE camera setup, which is a big thing. Pay attention to some of the pin covers and you see them panic because the logical pin they should make doesn't have their face on the hard camera so they have to jump over the guy on his back to get into position. It's distracting and working with that setup for some time will get them acclimated to it.
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SirDippingSauce posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YvDfiAXT8 
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May 26, 2015 05:35
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Is there anyway to watch the Lance Storm reality show World of Hurt? Listening to this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zndopFyi9Rw and seeing Emma in the trailer really makes me want to catch up on it.
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May 26, 2015 06:07
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AlmightyPants posted:Pay attention to some of the pin covers and you see them panic because the logical pin they should make doesn't have their face on the hard camera so they have to jump over the guy on his back to get into position. It's distracting and working with that setup for some time will get them acclimated to it.
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St Evan Echoes posted:Yeah I noticed Owens do this a lot in his early matches. Either his first Neville match or first Zayn match he was constantly having to scoot over and pin facing the hard camera It's very common on NXT shows. And that's not a problem with any of these people's work, it's just part of adapting to the WWE system. Better to make mistakes in developmental in front of a crowd that adores everyone (except Corbin, who had to scurry over Rhyno after his finisher on the last Takeover) than on the main roster where Kevin Dunn will have a hissy fit because you weren't in position for his cameras or whatever. Also now that I've pointed it out you're more likely to be aware of it.
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May 26, 2015 09:48
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That's the dilemma of getting seats facing hard camera. On one hand you get to be in the show the whole time, but nobody's allowed to play to your side.
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May 26, 2015 10:53
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Did a smartass wrestler ever ask A-Train if he was the premier train or just a single train? Vague memory of this happening. Maybe Jericho?
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May 26, 2015 11:33
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What is generally considered to be the worst Wrestlemania main event ever?
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I'd put HHH vs Jericho up there, mainly because it was positioned horribly as a co-main with Hogan vs Rock.
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Purple Monkey posted:What is generally considered to be the worst Wrestlemania main event ever? Sid-undertaker is horrendous.
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