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Narcissus1916 posted:Stop trying to make sense of DC fuckery. I alsmost went insane trying to chart out their bizarre logic back when they outlawed parts of the Batman universe on Justice League - there is no logic. I'm watching the JL cartoons now, do you have any examples of this? I haven't really noticed much like that (not defending DC, I've read about some of the poo poo they've done vis a vis rights to hero's and derivitive vs inspired by nonsense)
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May 27, 2015 00:17
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its been ages since I followed it, but basically when they switched from Justice League to Justice League Unlimited the creative team was told that the entire batman universe was off limits - outside of Batman himself. They later somehow got a few references in, and even managed a Batman Beyond tribute episode, but its all very and extremely dumb. Especially given that Justice League basically had a blank check for its first few years - the creators said that the only thing they were flatly denied was Blue Beetle (Arrow ran into the same problem).
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May 27, 2015 00:23
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They yanked a few Batman villains from the Legion of Doom in JLU, the Joker basically fell off the animated radar for quite a long time, a few episode scripts were hurriedly changed to remove Barbara Gordon, etc. It carried through into The Batman when that aired as well. Edit: apparently there's a wiki for the animated Bat-Embargo! http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/Bat-embargo
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May 27, 2015 00:31
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Narcissus1916 posted:Especially given that Justice League basically had a blank check for its first few years - the creators said that the only thing they were flatly denied was Blue Beetle (Arrow ran into the same problem). What the gently caress are they doing with Blue Beetle? Is this a rights thing or have they got some massive secret undertaking that precludes Blue Beetle showing up on screens?
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May 27, 2015 00:36
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Same reason. They wanted Ted Kord, DC said no because Jaime Reyes is their Blue Beetle now.
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May 27, 2015 00:41
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It's really frustrating because I'd be ok with either Blue Beetle getting any screen time. Ted's the one we all know and love, but it would be cool to see Jaime and a setting for a superhero that isn't Not - New York. It was really refreshing to read a superhero comic that took place in the Southwest for once.
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May 27, 2015 01:01
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They had Ted Kord AND Jaime Reyes on Smallville in the episode with Booster Gold. It's a bit shocking in retrospect, given how off limits Kord has been for all these years, but I suppose a one off appearance is different. Maybe.
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May 27, 2015 01:46
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Narcissus1916 posted:its been ages since I followed it, but basically when they switched from Justice League to Justice League Unlimited the creative team was told that the entire batman universe was off limits - outside of Batman himself. Hahahaha who has such a boner for Blue Beetle? What a weird character to restrict
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May 27, 2015 02:27
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Some people really loving love Ted Kord. I'm not one of them, but that makes more sense than everyone who has a massive nostalgia boner for Hal Jordan. I should also mention that my bitching about stupid restrictions should in no way be seen as a slight against Justice League. Its goddamn fantastic and probably the best way to get your superhero fix over the summer. Well, next to agent carter and/or daredevil.
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May 27, 2015 02:34
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:Hahahaha who has such a boner for Blue Beetle? What a weird character to restrict Geoff Johns, same as most of DC's problems.
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May 27, 2015 02:40
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The Ted Kord Blue Beetle is my all-time favorite superhero as well. I was really disappointed he never made it into the JLU cartoon, but at least they made an action figure of him, years after the show was off the air and the figures were online exclusives sold at inflated prices. I was even more disappointed when a character who looked and acted a lot like him was introduced on Arrow, played by a very charismatic actor, but turned out to be a Silver Age blank slate of a character who was traditionally even more boring than Hal Jordan. Brandon Routh's portrayal is the best thing to ever happen for Ray Palmer/Atom fans (are there any?), but it kills me to think how awesome Ted Kord would have been on Arrow, especially after all the Kord references in the first two seasons.
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May 27, 2015 02:59
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Johns isn't ALL horrible. He did help write a few of the good Arrow/Flash episodes - like the one that introduced Snart on Flash. Of course, he also brought in Huntress on Arrow, and actually wrote Flashpoint so...
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May 27, 2015 03:18
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Detective No. 27 posted:It's really frustrating because I'd be ok with either Blue Beetle getting any screen time. Ted's the one we all know and love, but it would be cool to see Jaime and a setting for a superhero that isn't Not - New York. It was really refreshing to read a superhero comic that took place in the Southwest for once. Are you sure?  I do wish that Johns would just allow Charleton comic heroes on the TV shows, because they really can just exist outside the continuity with the main DC characters. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 03:26 on May 27, 2015 |
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May 27, 2015 03:24
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Crowsbeak posted:Are you sure? That actually looks pretty rad. What's it from? He looks like a super sentai.
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May 27, 2015 03:32
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Detective No. 27 posted:That actually looks pretty rad. What's it from? He looks like a super sentai. It is from Smallville, and I guess it looked to much like Karmen Rider for my tastes.
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May 27, 2015 03:38
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Crowsbeak posted:It is from Smallville, and I guess it looked to much like Karmen Rider for my tastes. The Reach is just a Japanese makeover from being the theme/villains for a season of Kamen Rider. It is a shame that Jaime has only had animated appearances besides Smallville, but they did good with him all things considered.
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May 27, 2015 03:52
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I think Johns actually LIKES Blue Beetle. He wrote the Smallville episode with Booster, Jaime, and Ted, and he co-wrote some great Blue Beetle stories in the comics: Countdown to Infinite Crisis, where he, Rucka, and Winick actually killed off Ted, and the post-52 Booster Gold arc where Booster saved Ted and had alternate timeline adventures with him. Plus, the Arrow showrunners were all set to introduce Brandon Routh as Ted until "DC" intervened. But I really don't think that was Johns' call, even though he is Chief Creative Officer. It might be Dan DiDio's issue.
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May 27, 2015 04:55
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imperialparadox posted:Season Four: Ollie moves to a new city and takes up a new job, becoming the masked wrestler El Flecha Verde. I assume the bad guy of that season would be the luchador version of Bane.
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May 27, 2015 06:53
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I think Johns actually LIKES Blue Beetle. He wrote the Smallville episode with Booster, Jaime, and Ted, and he co-wrote some great Blue Beetle stories in the comics: Countdown to Infinite Crisis, where he, Rucka, and Winick actually killed off Ted, and the post-52 Booster Gold arc where Booster saved Ted and had alternate timeline adventures with him. Plus, the Arrow showrunners were all set to introduce Brandon Routh as Ted until "DC" intervened. But I really don't think that was Johns' call, even though he is Chief Creative Officer. It might be Dan DiDio's issue. It's possible that there's side Blue Beetle thing waiting to be produced, but it's in a stage of development hell and any tone someone wants to do a live action thing with it, the project still in hell takes precedence and halts that. Also, want there a live action promo of sorts for Blue Beetle that was done a while ago?
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May 27, 2015 07:41
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Xelkelvos posted:It's possible that there's side Blue Beetle thing waiting to be produced, but it's in a stage of development hell and any tone someone wants to do a live action thing with it, the project still in hell takes precedence and halts that. Also, want there a live action promo of sorts for Blue Beetle that was done a while ago? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElRNinNw96Q Yup, but it's not a promo, it's a screen test. It was done to see how BB would look live action. Still, it's 5+ years old at this point.
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May 27, 2015 15:57
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Crowsbeak posted:It is from Smallville, and I guess it looked to much like Karmen Rider for my tastes. The bug-themed armoured superhero looks like another bug-themed armoured superhero? 
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May 27, 2015 16:21
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Looks like there's going to be more to the Amell/Stardust WWE thing. Amell has been challenged to come back.
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May 27, 2015 18:22
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oh gently caress this is going to be great
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May 27, 2015 18:49
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I dont know posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElRNinNw96Q Gaz-L posted:The bug-themed armoured superhero looks like another bug-themed armoured superhero? I prefer this looks a bit better than smallvilles. Also I guess being that karmen rider was something I hated when I was six any thing that makes me think of it rubs me wrong/.
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May 27, 2015 22:35
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 Kamen Rider you stanky infidel, not Karmen Rider.
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May 27, 2015 23:03
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All animes look the same to me.
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May 27, 2015 23:18
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BrianWilly posted:
Hey its been almost two decades. I'll make it up and watch that lovely cross over episode he did with the power rangers.
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May 28, 2015 04:24
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Aphrodite posted:Looks like there's going to be more to the Amell/Stardust WWE thing. "Unlike Cody here, I'm a real superhero  ""  "
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May 28, 2015 23:35
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Now the rumor is they're fighting at Summerslam.
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Jun 1, 2015 14:09
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Aphrodite posted:I think that was just speculation here. I thought Sepinwall reported at one point about how he wanted to be on the show but was told he couldn't which of course got everyone here super happy.
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Jun 1, 2015 16:43
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I just finished Season 2. Does Laurel die this season? Please say yes.
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Jun 2, 2015 00:09
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Sort of!
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Jun 2, 2015 00:12
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Laurel doesn't die, but the show does!
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Jun 2, 2015 03:59
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Halloween Jack posted:I just finished Season 2. Does Laurel die this season? Please say yes. Laurel is the best part of season 3!
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Jun 2, 2015 08:06
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Episode 2 was Drunk Laurel and Deathstroke telling her who Arrow is, right? How could anybody hate her after that?
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Jun 2, 2015 08:13
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Drunk Laurel was just an even more basic bitch than regular Laurel. She pretty most embodies the laziest, most CWest parts of the show.
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Jun 2, 2015 13:51
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No that's Felicity this season.
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Jun 2, 2015 14:25
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To my mind, this is the only way to add relationship drama to the show and redeem it. Green Arrow Green Arrow and his best friend/A.I. Bow Actually, ANYTHING to get rid of the stupid gloomy brooding bullshit. They could turn the show into a Two and a Half Men sitcom and it'd be better than season 3 was. Drifter fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Jun 3, 2015 |
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Jun 3, 2015 07:02
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Drifter posted:Actually, ANYTHING to get rid of the stupid gloomy brooding bullshit.
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nelson posted:I thought Oliver was Mr. Happy at the end of the season. With only the crazy codependent chick in a relationship with a pretty emotionally abusive guy.
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