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Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
I used to have fun trolling bitcoiners on craigslist - soooo many miner ads back when one of the big crashes happened around a year or so ago [and when ASICs started really taking off], I put up ads like "Beware of anyone mentioning 'mining', or 'bitcoin'!" warning people that the cheap video cards were likely toast and the mining rigs were already completely worthless.

Yeah those ads lasted maybe a day before I'd have to go repost them. :v:


e. I guess I don't know if trying to stop desperate scammer assholes from selling dead hardware and worthless mining rigs counts as trolling or consumer protection v:shobon:v

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Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

muscles like this? posted:

The best part is what "Mt. Gox's" name means. Magic The Gathering Online Exchange. You know, like a reputable bank.

Despite the name, they never actually did anything with MTGO. The website was set up for that originally, then they caught the bitcoin bug.

EDIT: I guess they did actually run an MTGO service in 2007 for three months, then abandoned it but held on to the domain name.

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Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
IIRC it was literally an online trading center for physical MtG cards, not MtG Online stuff.

I shouldn't know this poo poo.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
Nope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox

point of return
Aug 13, 2011

by exmarx

flosofl posted:

The one great gifts of Bitcoin was to give us the Ross Ulbricht money-laundering trial. That thing was pure, unadulterated schadenfreude from the beginning to end. And he still hasn't been tried on the conspiracy to commit murder charges as far as I know (that may be happening, but I lost interest). One of the highlights was the Forbes reporter (I can't remember her name) covering the trial. Her articles and tweets were hilarious and basically boiled down to "How can anyone be this stupid and not be in an assisted living facility?" I think at one point she stopped by the bitcoin thread.

Sarah Jeong, and her tweets were indeed impressive. The murder-for-hire trial is a different court and will probably either start after sentencing or be dropped after he gets life-without-parole.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

someone in one of the YOSPOS buttcoin threads tried to help an acquaintance actually cash out $20000 worth of bitcoins. he offered a 50% discount or something like that to anyone to would pay in cash. posted on local BTC forums and Craigslist.

the conditions was that they meet in a bank, verify that the cash was real and stay there until the BTC transfer went through.

no takers.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

axolotl farmer posted:

one of the YOSPOS buttcoin threads

There's only ever been one but it's distributed.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I found a little bitcoin miner attached to a raspberry pi hidden in the false ceiling of a place I was fitting out a few years ago. Had a wifi dongle and was mining away at nothing as the WPA password was changed monthly at this company.

Some poor ex employee must have hidden it up there hoping to make easy money, was fired or quit, and had no time or opportunity to retrieve their stuff.

All in all, I have a stupid looking USB stick that does nothing and a free raspberry pi.

EDIT: On old tech, today at my new job I found two of these in the attic where they store all the excess stock:



I think I'm cursed (gifted?) in finding junk in ceilings/attics.

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

axolotl farmer posted:

someone in one of the YOSPOS buttcoin threads tried to help an acquaintance actually cash out $20000 worth of bitcoins. he offered a 50% discount or something like that to anyone to would pay in cash. posted on local BTC forums and Craigslist.

the conditions was that they meet in a bank, verify that the cash was real and stay there until the BTC transfer went through.

no takers.
Was that the three part story that ended up on buttcoin(foundation).org?

Part 1: http://www.buttcoinfoundation.org/easy
Part 2: http://www.buttcoinfoundation.org/easy-like-sunday-morning
Part 3: http://www.buttcoinfoundation.org/easy-come-easy-go

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Collateral Damage posted:

Was that the three part story that ended up on buttcoin(foundation).org?

yeah

ArcMage
Sep 14, 2007

What is this thread?

Ramrod XTreme

Lurking Haro posted:

So iPhones have the necessary software for any carrier worldwide loaded?
You know there are cellphone standards like GSM or UMTS? Compatible cellphones only need a valid SIM to connect to them, no custom radios.

iPhones have the necessary hardware for any network. They require a firmware element, the radio or baseband, to define the frequency bands to transmit and receive on, and the formats for transmitting and receiving on those bands, and to translate the software's data into the appropriate format, so that the hardware can transmit it. A GSM phone can connect to any network with the appropriate SIM because, as you say, the GSM protocol is standard, and because the provisioning is linked to the SIM; CDMA systems are linked to the device itself and don't give you any easy way of swapping networks because they're assholes, but it can still be done.

Neither of these have anything to do with the physical radio; they're handled by the baseband. The transmitting hardware for an iPhone is identical regardless of carrier region, or network protocol; I won't guarantee that a CDMA handset has a SIM slot, as I haven't handled one. A Nexus 5 does, and in fact defaults to a LTE/CDMA/GSM radio mode. Sprint rolled out new, additional LTE bands not long ago, and they had to push a radio update to everyone so that their devices could use them.

Updated basebands are typically released with OS updates, and you shouldn't have to know about it as a day to day user. Custom basebands do in fact exist to allow a handset to connect to other carrier's networks that they would otherwise be unable to recognize.

Adding a new network band or protocol would involve writing that new network band and protocol into the baseband for whichever device you planned to use it with; unless your desired band was far outside those allocated for either wifi or mobile data use, you are correct, it would not require any custom hardware.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Star Man posted:

Despite the name, they never actually did anything with MTGO. The website was set up for that originally, then they caught the bitcoin bug.

EDIT: I guess they did actually run an MTGO service in 2007 for three months, then abandoned it but held on to the domain name.

Nope its worse than that. Magic The Gathering Online Exchange was a website set up to trade magic cards, that traded a few.

IIRC somebody else who got the bitcoin bug simply bought the name and domain from them so he could use it to give an air of legitimacy to his new exchange :haw:

Humphreys posted:

I found a little bitcoin miner attached to a raspberry pi hidden in the false ceiling of a place I was fitting out a few years ago. Had a wifi dongle and was mining away at nothing as the WPA password was changed monthly at this company.

Some poor ex employee must have hidden it up there hoping to make easy money, was fired or quit, and had no time or opportunity to retrieve their stuff.

All in all, I have a stupid looking USB stick that does nothing and a free raspberry pi.

It terrifies me how many of these probably exist.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Zaphod42 posted:

Nope its worse than that. Magic The Gathering Online Exchange was a website set up to trade magic cards, that traded a few.

IIRC somebody else who got the bitcoin bug simply bought the name and domain from them so he could use it to give an air of legitimacy to his new exchange :haw:


It terrifies me how many of these probably exist.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Humphreys posted:

EDIT: On old tech, today at my new job I found two of these in the attic where they store all the excess stock:



I think I'm cursed (gifted?) in finding junk in ceilings/attics.

These drat things were the bane of my existence from 2004 until they (and later models) were phased out at retailers in the late 2000s. At the time I was a field technician for Fujifilm and both of the major accounts in the US (Walmart/Sam's Club & Walgreens) had them in addition to the one-hour equipment in the lab itself. The worst part was the loop of "Kodak Picture Maker - it's fun, easy and fast! Try it! No charge until a print is made!" carnival barking 25 second audio clip that it constantly ran through. It got old after 15 minutes and absolutely ground your nerves raw on longer multi-hour service calls. I would often touch the screen and walk away, which would begin the actual customer interface and shut the drat thing up for five minutes until it timed out and went back to the looping demo.

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Bill Posters
Apr 27, 2007

I'm tripping right now... Don't fuck this up for me.

The bitcoin discussion reminded me that a) bitcoins are still a thing and b) the shopping center near my office has one of these:



According to the website it is one of three in Australia and that they're buying bitcoin at nearly 300AUD each. I was just amazed to find a real website at that address though I have no idea how up to date it might be. The machines seem to defeat the main purpose of bitcoin though since apparently you need to scan your drivers license and let it photograph your face to use it.

I mean I guess that's fine if you're using bitcoins for totally legit purposes... :allears:

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
What sucks about bitcoin is that digital currency would be fantastic, because gently caress credit card companies. Not just for online purchases, but also at POS for normal retailers. But like everything libertarians touch, the golden goose got squeezed by Lennie who thought he was petting it with brilliant economic theory.

Monkeycheese
Feb 24, 2002

ninja minúsculo

ryonguy posted:

What sucks about bitcoin is that digital currency would be fantastic, because gently caress credit card companies. Not just for online purchases, but also at POS for normal retailers. But like everything libertarians touch, the golden goose got squeezed by Lennie who thought he was petting it with brilliant economic theory.

just get a debit card from a real bank then.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



ryonguy posted:

What sucks about bitcoin is that digital currency would be fantastic, because gently caress credit card companies. Not just for online purchases, but also at POS for normal retailers. But like everything libertarians touch, the golden goose got squeezed by Lennie who thought he was petting it with brilliant economic theory.

What sucks about bitcoin is everything. It is truly a terrible idea as a form of currency.

Kugyou no Tenshi
Nov 8, 2005

We can't keep the crowd waiting, can we?

ryonguy posted:

What sucks about bitcoin is that digital currency would be fantastic

Someone's never heard of Flooz, which got a toxic reputation before its shutdown due to its use in money laundering. Probably never heard of eGold either, which was primarily used to buy kiddy porn or buy into pyramid schemes claiming a daily 1% ROI. Pretty much every "digital currency" has failed in part because of its use in illegal activity - bitcoin just went the extra step and created a currency market that, if it were practiced on any regulated national currency, would itself be an illegal activity. The fact that bitcoin has gotten any legitimate market penetration is astonishing, though I've seen some places that had offered bitcoin payments stop offering them after the Silk Road fiasco.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
As an oddity related to the early digital currencies and even the digital ones like bitcoin of today, I seem to remember about 15-16 years ago reading a short story in Popular Mechanics or some other magazine of that sort about someone developing a digital currency of their own.

it was sort of prescient in some ways on how the user perspective on the currency would become as I think the story's big focus was literally how the government was intentionally trying to destroy any and digital currencies and how people were viewing digital currencies as making them truly liberated from big government.

edit: I think I found it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Simoleon_Caper

Holy poo poo, is this describing Bitcoin in 1995?!

quote:

In the story, the protagonist is an underemployed mathematician who resides in the house of his brother's family in Chicago. The brother, owner of an advertising agency, has won a large contract to create ads for "Simoleons," a form of non-governmental electronic "currency." To launch the product, they plan to give away 27 million Simoleons to the winners of a contest. The contest is based on the long-used format of "guess the number of jelly beans in the container," with Chicago's Soldier Field and 26 other football stadiums being the containers.

The brother asks the mathematician ("hero") to do the calculations needed. He complies with the request, using the calculator function of the family's advanced set-top box to speed the long math. Some time later, while taking a rest break from his online job in the Metaverse, the hero is contacted by a representative of a group of "crypto-anarchists" who have formed a virtual nation called the First Distributed Republic. The FDR warns the hero that the government, which fears E-money, has stolen his calculations by compelling the cable company to tap the family's set-top box. They plan to give the answers to a group of planted people, who will then proceed to ruin the reputation of Simoleons through various disinformation schemes.

The hero has no actual worry about this, except that his parents are heavily invested in his brother's advertising agency; as the agency would be liable for the loss of security on a project they have contracted for, the agency would go bankrupt and their parents would lose their money. The FDR, on the other hand, wish to prove that not only would E-money work, but that it can circumvent government controls such as taxes. Together, the hero and the FDR create a simple scheme to foil the plot.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Yep, sounds like it. I like how they're called "Simoleons", isn't that the currency from The Sims? I wonder if that's where they got it.

It wasn't much later in 1999 that Cryptonomicon was published which deals even more literally with cryptocurrencies.

Fooley
Apr 25, 2006

Blue moon of Kentucky keep on shinin'...

Zaphod42 posted:

Yep, sounds like it. I like how they're called "Simoleons", isn't that the currency from The Sims? I wonder if that's where they got it.

It wasn't much later in 1999 that Cryptonomicon was published which deals even more literally with cryptocurrencies.

Its an old slang term for dollars.

Bitcoins seem pretty pointless with Paypal, Google, Apple, and probably others having phone apps that are starting to be accepted in retail stores. I guess there's still the anonymity side of it though.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Fooley posted:

Bitcoins seem pretty pointless with Paypal, Google, Apple, and probably others having phone apps that are starting to be accepted in retail stores. I guess there's still the anonymity side of it though.

Drugs.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Fooley posted:

Bitcoins seem pretty pointless with Paypal, Google, Apple, and probably others having phone apps that are starting to be accepted in retail stores. I guess there's still the anonymity side of it though.

Although as the whole silk road trial has shown, that "anonymity" thing can really bite you in the rear end. Since there's a perfect record of all transactions (better records than even banks would have) all you have to do is trace down who owns what address and now you know literally every transaction that person has ever made. And its all out there, recorded on every mining computer, so there's no loving way you can delete your "history".

The only reason you'd prefer Bitcoin to Paypal is if you're all :tinfoil: about the USD and inflation.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Fooley posted:

I guess there's still the anonymity side of it though.
"Anonymity".

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Zaphod42 posted:

Yep, sounds like it. I like how they're called "Simoleons", isn't that the currency from The Sims? I wonder if that's where they got it.

It wasn't much later in 1999 that Cryptonomicon was published which deals even more literally with cryptocurrencies.

:ssh: Both written by the same guy.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

Someone's never heard of Flooz, which got a toxic reputation before its shutdown due to its use in money laundering.

Flooz was awesome in its terribleness. I remember Whoopie Goldberg doing some fluff interview in People magazine and sticking Flooz into every other answer. Like, "what's the best gift you ever got?" The gift of Flooz!".

I guess a lot of DotCom start-ups tried to get celebrity endorsements by offering a percentage in the company, creating these desperate circle-jerks as everyone tried to make it to an IPO. I think William Shatner is the only one who actually made money doing that with Priceline.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

I should have clicked on the link. In retrospect that makes so much sense.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I was reading a magazine article (that's not the obsolete technology in question) about 3D printing and it reminded me of a device I first saw back in the 1970s.

Behold... the MOLD-A-RAMA!



For a quarter the machine would make a hot wax model of various things, in this case a miniature Hollywood Bowl. The one I saw at Universal Studios would make a wax shark (Jaws tie-in) or a movie monster, like Frankenstein's head with a slot for coins.



The models were still warm when they came out and you had to be careful with them as they were soft until they cooled. They were thin-walled as well and prone to crumbling.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Dick Trauma posted:

I was reading a magazine article (that's not the obsolete technology in question) about 3D printing and it reminded me of a device I first saw back in the 1970s.

Behold... the MOLD-A-RAMA!



For a quarter the machine would make a hot wax model of various things, in this case a miniature Hollywood Bowl. The one I saw at Universal Studios would make a wax shark (Jaws tie-in) or a movie monster, like Frankenstein's head with a slot for coins.



The models were still warm when they came out and you had to be careful with them as they were soft until they cooled. They were thin-walled as well and prone to crumbling.



These are awesome! I know there was one at the Henry Ford in Michigan that makes little F150s and Mustangs as of about 2 or 3 years ago.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I love the atom symbol on the machine at the top. Back when I was a kid you'd still see that fairly often as a sign that you have arrived in THE ATOMIC FUTURE!

cobalt impurity
Apr 23, 2010

I hope he didn't care about that pizza.

Dick Trauma posted:

I was reading a magazine article (that's not the obsolete technology in question) about 3D printing and it reminded me of a device I first saw back in the 1970s.

Behold... the MOLD-A-RAMA!



For a quarter the machine would make a hot wax model of various things, in this case a miniature Hollywood Bowl. The one I saw at Universal Studios would make a wax shark (Jaws tie-in) or a movie monster, like Frankenstein's head with a slot for coins.



The models were still warm when they came out and you had to be careful with them as they were soft until they cooled. They were thin-walled as well and prone to crumbling.



I saw one of these at a zoo that had a choice of animals! I had completely forgotten about it but I thought it was neat at the time. My parents thought it was a waste of money so I never got to see it in action.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
They still have them at the Henry Vilas Zoo in Madison I think (and they may still have one in the Field Museum).


Okay this is cool http://www.moldamania.com/

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MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Last time I was there, the Science & Industry museum in chicago had a few in the stairwells.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

They still have them at the Henry Vilas Zoo in Madison I think (and they may still have one in the Field Museum).


Okay this is cool http://www.moldamania.com/

Madison has one as of last summer.

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli
It's not really the same thing, but those machines that stamp a souvenir coin are still popular where I live (Japan).

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


Armacham posted:

These are awesome! I know there was one at the Henry Ford in Michigan that makes little F150s and Mustangs as of about 2 or 3 years ago.

Hell, there's half a dozen in there. One makes F-150s, one makes Mustangs, one makes Weinermobiles, one makes the Rosa Parks bus, one (I think) makes a bust of Ford's head, and I can't remember what the last one does. Whenever I take my kids there we try to get a new model, they're pretty cool. I got one of the Rosa Parks Bus ones for my wife about ten years ago and it's still in fantastic shape.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Krispy Kareem posted:

Flooz was awesome in its terribleness. I remember Whoopie Goldberg doing some fluff interview in People magazine and sticking Flooz into every other answer. Like, "what's the best gift you ever got?" The gift of Flooz!".

I guess a lot of DotCom start-ups tried to get celebrity endorsements by offering a percentage in the company, creating these desperate circle-jerks as everyone tried to make it to an IPO. I think William Shatner is the only one who actually made money doing that with Priceline.

Stock Options, where you weren't being paid in money OR stocks but instead the promise of stocks later. They were big in the late 90s/00 tech bubble because they didn't really cost the company anything unless they actually succeeded.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

They still have them at the Henry Vilas Zoo in Madison I think (and they may still have one in the Field Museum).


Okay this is cool http://www.moldamania.com/

Oh man, now I want to go to the zoo. I haven't been there since I was a kid.

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Beet
Aug 24, 2003

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

They still have them at the Henry Vilas Zoo in Madison I think (and they may still have one in the Field Museum).


Okay this is cool http://www.moldamania.com/

Maybe I'm conflating my memory of Wisconsin zoos but I'm pretty sure there are still a handful of these at the Milwaukee zoo as well, at least as of two or three years ago.

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