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Suaimhneas posted:Edit: I admit that "Rey looks like a puppy because of his current mental state" seems more likely than "he's in a different toy now", I didn't think of that Sorry for my tone. I'm just getting used to this thread being retarded lately. But my theory is that he got an ownership change before being handed over to Anthony (accidentally, subconsciously, etc). Anthony is being an absolute poo poo to him like he was being a poo poo towards Annie, and that's wrecked Rey's self esteem. Thus him also reverting back to a child-like state. That, or he's stuck between his basic toy form, and the plush form.
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Or a wolf would not fit on the roll top desk
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May 27, 2015 14:27
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Nettle Soup posted:Well Kat has the symbol burned all over her workshop and it was above their heads in the ROTD, Annie saw it cause she got annoyed and waved it away. Also I think it was stated when she first got him that the symbol signified he was hers. I'm pretty sure Annie wears an Antimony symbol necklace, does she not?
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May 27, 2015 14:36
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Or how about the simplest explanation: He looks like a corgi because he's halfway between turning from a toy into a wolf uurgahghjagjhbb
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May 27, 2015 14:38
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Or he reckons Tony is probably anal-retentive enough to notice if he changed position even slightly so he isn't willing to change much.
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May 27, 2015 14:59
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He's in the old toy for 2 of the 3 panels guys, and pops into wolfpupy form when he goes to talk (and reveal the sign) not because it is a new toy body. Don't overthink this guys
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May 27, 2015 15:05
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Well, Kat did take Renard for a brief moment: http://gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1502 I figured this is where the transfer happened
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May 27, 2015 15:29
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Oh my loving god Anthony has totally turned Renard into a robot He's got Kat's symbol because she's, like, the angel of robots and poo poo ... Ahahahahaha, I knew this would turn out loving awesome! 
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May 27, 2015 15:37
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MikeJF posted:Yesssss. The chair is characterization of Anthony.
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May 27, 2015 15:53
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Rey there's a pube on your forehead, ew gross. Also Parley should stop stealing Velma Dinkley's clothes.
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Bilirubin posted:Or a wolf would not fit on the roll top desk He has a smaller form that he's used pretty often! Although he tends to be a smug mischievous rear end in a top hat when he's in that form and I guess he's not in that mindset right now
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May 27, 2015 16:03
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I wish he was a pidgeon. that would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
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May 27, 2015 16:16
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When I read the new page I was glad Renard didn't hate Annie or anything. His concern for her was sweet but also sad  I hadn't noticed Kat's symbol before. I like Kat but she feels so perfect that I find it a little a boring. But I am glad she is a good friend to Annie.
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May 27, 2015 16:21
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SHISHKABOB posted:I wish he was a pidgeon. Now praying that this will happen
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May 27, 2015 16:49
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This detour into magical loopholes is kind of strange.
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May 27, 2015 16:50
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Cruel and Unusual posted:This detour into magical loopholes is kind of strange. it's tony's own fault for not having a lawyer on retainer to write out an rear end in a top hat genie-proof contract
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May 27, 2015 17:46
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Lurdiak posted:Maybe Corgidyne is somehow caused by the ownership change? "Corgidyne" sounds like a hosed-up puppy-powered steampunk technology.
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May 27, 2015 17:55
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i bet this is actually a trick by coyote
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May 27, 2015 18:13
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The chair is Coyote
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May 27, 2015 18:16
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The cursed teapot is in the chair.
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fffff posted:The chair is Coyote  hahaha very funny we get it great joke that hasn't been run into the ground .We get it Eglamore was a bit indistinguishable in the early comics but everyone can recognise Jimmy Jims now.
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Rumda posted:
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May 27, 2015 18:35
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May 27, 2015 18:38
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Is it possible that Kat built an emergency backup Renard doll, and Renard put himself into it?
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Okay step one (get in) and step two (get Reynard) are complete. Now time for step 3 (take Rey, leave a perfectly mundane plush in his place).  On a related note: Do any of the treatises show Rey's symbol clearly? I mean, he's been on Kat/The Court's side whenever he's shown up in them anyway so it doesn't make that much difference, but still.... e: MikeJF posted:The Chair contains Surma's preserved corpse, ready to be reanimated. Itzena fucked around with this message at 19:02 on May 27, 2015 |
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May 27, 2015 18:57
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Why can't we just take the most simple explanation which is that Annie did indeed pass him on to Kat and is lying to her father (badly)? Reynard also says the body is a plaything of the mind, and his mind is in a real bad place at the moment, a place where he feels helpless, and so appears as a puppy.
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May 27, 2015 19:25
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Inglonias posted:Is it possible that Kat built an emergency backup Renard doll, and Renard put himself into it? 
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Maybe I just thought it obvious, but judging by the stuttering in Annie's words here, she most likely subverted Tony's authority and transferred ownership off-screen. Cue a short explanation of the official transfer of ownership to Kat that ends with "I'd much rather be owned by you than that horrible man." from Corgidine.
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Quantum Finger posted:Why can't we just take the most simple explanation which is that Annie did indeed pass him on to Kat and is lying to her father (badly)? Reynard also says the body is a plaything of the mind, and his mind is in a real bad place at the moment, a place where he feels helpless, and so appears as a puppy. Annie is not currently capable of defying and deceiving Anthony on this matter. The mind is the plaything of the body, not the other way around.
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May 27, 2015 19:55
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The chair has Anthony's empty skin in it. Minus one hand of course.
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The Red Queen posted:The chair has Anthony's empty skin in it. Minus one hand of course. The chair has Anthony's hand in it, animated Thing-style
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Bongo Bill posted:Annie is not currently capable of defying and deceiving Anthony on this matter. ...well, you're right that he says that, but Tom has said that Rey's form changes based on how he's feeling which seems like it should be the other way around. Like if he's feeling trickstery he's the doll, and noble and helpful and powerful he becomes a wolf. So the mind affects the body. I'll admit that hoping Annie knowingly transferred control offscreen is probably wishful thinking on my part. But it would be nice!
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May 27, 2015 20:03
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He looks different because he's in a different doll that belongs to Kat now. This seems pretty obvious to me.
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JT Jag posted:He looks different because he's in a different doll that belongs to Kat now. Anthony would be able to figure out if Renard wasn't even "Home," so to speak. I hope he isn't that easily fooled.
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May 27, 2015 20:21
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Inglonias posted:Anthony would be able to figure out if Renard wasn't even "Home," so to speak. I hope he isn't that easily fooled.
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Well I dunno how it happened, but I know when it happened. Somewhat. It had to happen after Anthony came to teach at the court, because at the end of Totem, Reynardine is still sporting Annie's mark. So I guess we'll soon get filled in on how it happened, because this is someting that you shouldn't keep the readers in the dark about.
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JT Jag posted:Would he? How? All he said before was that Renard wasn't accepting his commands. That might mean that he's being unresponsive. The man capable of etheric space surgery probably has a trick or two up his sleeve. Also, the doll itself looks the same. Kat clearly didn't know about the transfer of ownership to her, and presumably Kat would know if she owned a replica of Renard's body, so your scenario doesn't seem particularly clear to me. He also doesn't need a new body to look different, just a new mental state.
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Super Waffle posted:Well, Kat did take Renard for a brief moment: This seems possible explanation to me - Maybe Annie's command was something along the lines of "I'm giving you to somebody else, they're going to come and pick you up and they're going to be in charge of you now" but she didn't specify who because she didn't want to argue with Reynardine (though he then started to argue with her of course, to get her to tell him what's happening). Then Kat comes in and takes Renard between the command and Anthony getting to him. This way, Annie might actually be oblivious to the fact Kat is the new owner.
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Noonsaliwah posted:This seems possible explanation to me - Maybe Annie's command was something along the lines of "I'm giving you to somebody else, they're going to come and pick you up and they're going to be in charge of you now" but she didn't specify who because she didn't want to argue with Reynardine (though he then started to argue with her of course, to get her to tell him what's happening).
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maswastaken posted:Kat straight up told him, "Do something!" If he obeyed, I've no idea how. Yeah, a fair point. I guess that's not it then! Ownership must have been transferred between Kat leaving and now.
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