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Mr. Fortitude posted:I don't see this as a bad thing. The Outbreak games biggest failings were because the PS2 online infrastructure was beyond god awful. They were ahead of their time, basically. Add in proper voice chat and other modern online features and tweak the controls a bit and yeah, I totally would buy it.
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Accordion Man posted:As much I hate to admit it RE5 actually sold really well, like one of Capcom's best selling games of all time well. Wasn't very well received by the fans though and most of those sales were probably because RE 4 was so popular. I think RE 6 sold like poo poo as a result even without it being critically panned.
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May 26, 2015 23:07
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I thinks it's actually possible for a re2 remaster if the re0 one sells well, and let's be honest re0 wasn't even that bad. I'd want Clare's original VA though. I hate they didn't bring her back for revealations.
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May 26, 2015 23:11
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Re2 wouldn't require a remaster. It would require an entire rebuild. Basically making a new game. I doubt capcom even has the source files lying around of the original backgrounds, fmv sequences etc. It would be costly compared to REmake 1 and 0.
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May 26, 2015 23:16
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Wasn't very well received by the fans though and most of those sales were probably because RE 4 was so popular. I think RE 6 sold like poo poo as a result even without it being critically panned. RE5 had a colossally successful marketing campaign, whereas most people on RE6's release didn't know there was anything beyond Leon's campaign, and it was arguably the least interesting one in the pack. The quality of a game has relatively little to do with its commercial success.
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May 26, 2015 23:18
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Mindblast posted:Re2 wouldn't require a remaster. It would require an entire rebuild. Basically making a new game. I doubt capcom even has the source files lying around of the original backgrounds, fmv sequences etc. It would be costly compared to REmake 1 and 0. And if re0 sells well it'll fill the coffers. Capcom is calling whatever they're doing to it a remaster, so I'm not sure if they mean a remake or not.
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May 26, 2015 23:20
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A. Beaverhausen posted:And if re0 sells well it'll fill the coffers. Capcom is calling whatever they're doing to it a remaster, so I'm not sure if they mean a remake or not. As another poster said earlier, it'll probably just be like the RE1 re-release, in that it's more or less a port of the GameCube version with updated models and controls. So, still good overall, but a far cry from the amount of work that would be required for a re-release of RE2 or 3. That said, I'm still holding out hope, no matter how low the chances of good re-releases of 2 and 3 might be.
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May 26, 2015 23:23
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I suppose Capcom could use the textures from Darkside Chronicles and Operation Raccoon City as a base if they were really lazy but I think most people would want to see a Resident Evil 2 remake given the treatment it deserves, with a total overhaul.
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May 26, 2015 23:37
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poptart_fairy posted:Yeah, that first(?) gameplay trailer where the protagonist is screaming OH gently caress OH gently caress WHAT THE gently caress WHAT made me laugh because it was just so over-done. Let the player's reactions takes precedence in horror games you jerks. I'm still trying to work out if they are just very, very slow on the uptake because of that, with their reactions to the spooky CRT monitor. Shows me on screen? Well that's strange  Shows me slump out of my chair apparently dead? Are you seeing this? Wait, what's this? It's showing me starting to move again OH MY loving CHAIR FLIPPING CHRIST  it's showing me stand back up perfectly fine noooooo!What the gently caress am I missing here?
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It makes me sad when people dismiss Resident Evil 3. The gameplay additions from 2 made playing so much smoother (something Veronica lacked), Mercenaries Mode made its great debut, and STARS STARS was terrifying. e: also am I an idiot for having fond memories of Dino Crisis? I only ever played he first one but I was hype as gently caress for that game and getting dragged through a room by a raptor was scary as poo poo
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May 27, 2015 00:22
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Yodzilla posted:It makes me sad when people dismiss Resident Evil 3. The gameplay additions from 2 made playing so much smoother (something Veronica lacked), Mercenaries Mode made its great debut, and STARS STARS was terrifying. The Dino Crisis series kind of reminds me of Alien. The first is a pretty good survival horror. The second is a kick rear end action thrill ride. And the third is the one that killed the series. I'm not sure how they hosed up dinosaurs in space.
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May 27, 2015 00:29
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Dino Crisis 3 is a game I thankfully never played but from the gameplay footage it looked not good anyway. From what I understand, the plot is entirely unrelated to the first two Dino Crisis games anyway, though I guess that plot got wrapped up in Dino Stalker, or Gun Survivor 3 depending on where you live.
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May 27, 2015 00:37
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Section Z posted:I'm still trying to work out if they are just very, very slow on the uptake because of that, with their reactions to the spooky CRT monitor. The fact that you may be a little bit jaded?
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May 27, 2015 00:43
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Yodzilla posted:It makes me sad when people dismiss Resident Evil 3. The gameplay additions from 2 made playing so much smoother (something Veronica lacked), Mercenaries Mode made its great debut, and STARS STARS was terrifying. Yeah, I maybe didn't like or play it as much as RE2 but it was still really good and I enjoyed it. Going back to REmake REmastered chat, did anybody here switch straight to full-3D controls and never look back? I used to be a Resident Evil tank control purist but I really like the analog directional movement. It doesn't allow you to use some of the old RE tactics (like backing up to a wall so that you can juke around an enemy when they turn to face you), but being able to go from almost getting bitten to immediately running away is pretty handy.
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Section Z posted:I'm still trying to work out if they are just very, very slow on the uptake because of that, with their reactions to the spooky CRT monitor. The impression I've got from the extremely limited amount of material released so far is that the game is going to be about stuff like dreams and perception and consciousness (and maybe some kind of experimentation with copying a human mind into a machine host). I think that monitor bit is meant to be like, a live feed of what the robot is seeing right there and maybe the character is starting to question their own perception of the room because of it? Total wild guesses but I feel like those themes are going to be important in the game.
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A. Beaverhausen posted:The fact that you may be a little bit jaded? If I suddenly saw myself show up on my computer monitor, then fall out of if seemingly dead, I'd be pretty freaked out then and there. If I saw the sudden prophetic video of myself turn out to be actually okay and stand up like nothing happened, that would be the point where I was relieved, not the point I run from the room screaming (because I would have already done so by then at seeing myself collapse on camera  ).I'm not questioning the freak out in general, I'm questioning why it seems the freak out is triggered by the LEAST worrying part. The Cheshire Cat posted:The impression I've got from the extremely limited amount of material released so far is that the game is going to be about stuff like dreams and perception and consciousness (and maybe some kind of experimentation with copying a human mind into a machine host). I think that monitor bit is meant to be like, a live feed of what the robot is seeing right there and maybe the character is starting to question their own perception of the room because of it? I liked most of those little file tidbits. Even if some of them have a healthy dose of "I'm sure it will be fine, why worry about it  " Scrolling down to the camera feed after reading the Surveyor file was fun.
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May 27, 2015 00:50
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Section Z posted:If I suddenly saw myself show up on my computer monitor, then fall out of if seemingly dead, I'd be pretty freaked out then and there. Sure, but you could just chalk it up to absolute shock with a delayed reaction. Who knows.
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May 27, 2015 00:52
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Section Z posted:Scrolling down to the camera feed after reading the Surveyor file was fun. Did I miss something with this? I'm looking at it but I don't see anything noteworthy
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FirstAidKite posted:Did I miss something with this? I'm looking at it but I don't see anything noteworthy You are looking at a camera feed of a big hole in the wall, right after reading "The cameras all stop at walls covering plot gel pipes known to break open from pressure changes." Hindsight is a bitch when working in spooky facilities.
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King Vidiot posted:Yeah, I maybe didn't like or play it as much as RE2 but it was still really good and I enjoyed it. I switched to tank controls for the boulder running segments and the nitro puzzle at the end of the game, otherwise I stuck with the new controls.
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Section Z posted:I'm still trying to work out if they are just very, very slow on the uptake because of that, with their reactions to the spooky CRT monitor. The other videos show AIs acting like some of the staff. Or maybe it is their consciousness or whatever. She shook the monitor on the table. It thinks it's her. So if someone picked you up and shook you like a monitor what would that memory be like. So it was maybe imprinting on her, which means crazy possibly murderous AI that you're trapped with all alone in the room with. Etc Edit: maybe not shaken, rewatched. Dunno now. I am Communist fucked around with this message at 02:34 on May 27, 2015 |
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I am Communist posted:The other videos show AIs acting like some of the staff. Or maybe it is their consciousness or whatever. She shook the monitor on the table. It thinks it's her. So if someone picked you up and shook you like a monitor what would that memory be like. So it was maybe imprinting on her, which means crazy possibly murderous AI that you're trapped with all alone in the room with. Etc Yeah, the Mockingbird video was really great. It believes it is that crew member, and it was really touchy throughout the conversations. E: What's really curious is how could it have possibly known what the crew members father said on his death bed. A. Beaverhausen fucked around with this message at 04:40 on May 27, 2015 |
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http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/05/27/perception-horror-irrational-veterans-kickstarter/ I think this looks pretty promising.
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For those that were talking about PT a little while ago, this showed up on my twitter feed today: http://boingboing.net/2015/05/27/this-upcoming-horror-game-look.html
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The Cheshire Cat posted:For those that were talking about PT a little while ago, this showed up on my twitter feed today: http://boingboing.net/2015/05/27/this-upcoming-horror-game-look.html I thought this was the same article I was looking at earlier, but it's not. I swear there are at least three games in development that are all claiming to be the "PT replacement" with suburban hallway settings and a creepy woman with prominent teeth. I'm not sure how to feel about horror game bandwagoning in an attempt to ride PT's coattails.
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May 27, 2015 19:28
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It's not really surprising. With Konami's seemingly sudden implosion there's a big obvious void that people were demanding to have filled. There probably would have been PT clones even WITHOUT Silent Hills being cancelled, but that fact just adds fuel to the fire.
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Basticle posted:http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/05/27/perception-horror-irrational-veterans-kickstarter/ MockingQuantum posted:I thought this was the same article I was looking at earlier, but it's not. I swear there are at least three games in development that are all claiming to be the "PT replacement" with suburban hallway settings and a creepy woman with prominent teeth. I'm not sure how to feel about horror game bandwagoning in an attempt to ride PT's coattails.
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May 27, 2015 19:42
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Section Z posted:I'm still trying to work out if they are just very, very slow on the uptake because of that, with their reactions to the spooky CRT monitor. The poster was talking about the gameplay trailer, not the teaser.
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May 27, 2015 19:49
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Niggurath posted:I feel like some game makers will just see it as 'make hallway, repeat hallway, put spooky woman in hallway with jump scares'. The saddest thing is that they won't realize that this has already been perfected: http://store.steampowered.com/app/356670/
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Niggurath posted:That's the danger of PT; it took what would appear to be on the surface a very simple idea and people think that's the extent of what made it an experience. In reality there's just numerous layers of cryptic puzzles, photo-realistic environments to distort someone's perception on if it's a game, and a combination of subtle and overt horror. It was a very careful planned work and I feel like some game makers will just see it as 'make hallway, repeat hallway, put spooky woman in hallway with jump scares'. The same thing happened in the wake of Amnesia. Horror games are exceptionally hard to get right, but that doesn't stop anyone from bashing together a dark house in Unity and adding some flickering Poser models. The genre is forever cursed to have one of the lowest technical bars to entry, but one of the highest for success.
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Niggurath posted:That's the danger of PT; it took what would appear to be on the surface a very simple idea and people think that's the extent of what made it an experience. In reality there's just numerous layers of cryptic puzzles, photo-realistic environments to distort someone's perception on if it's a game, and a combination of subtle and overt horror. It was a very careful planned work and I feel like some game makers will just see it as 'make hallway, repeat hallway, put spooky woman in hallway with jump scares'. I agree, and that's why I'm kind of disappointed. I don't want bland off-white suburban hallways to become the new meatwalls of a generation of horror games. I know it happens in every genre, but it's amazing how frequent it is that an iconic horror game gets made, then four out of every five horror games that follow copy it, but always seem to miss what made the ur-example so drat successful. Edit: ^^^ Goon above me hit the nail on the head regarding what I was trying to say.
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I guess that's something horror games have in common with horror movies now.
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Can we talk about Clock Tower 2/Clock Tower Ghost Head real quick and about how loving stupid that game is lmao that game's one of the dumbest ps1 horror games I've ever seen
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FirstAidKite posted:Can we talk about Clock Tower 2/Clock Tower Ghost Head real quick and about how loving stupid that game is I still have no idea how people would want to kickstart something with any association to Clock Tower. A franchise of one good game that then got remade followed up by two absolutely awful games. The Cheshire Cat posted:The saddest thing is that they won't realize that this has already been perfected: http://store.steampowered.com/app/356670/
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FirstAidKite posted:I didn't realize that that new clock tower spiritual successor was even a thing that was still happening Wait, it is actually made from the guy who made the clock tower series?
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Niggurath posted:Then let me tell you about Hellnight or possibly Overblood. Don't be dissing overblood, that game is pure camp and owns because of it. Pipo rules.  Niggurath posted:I still have no idea how people would want to kickstart something with any association to Clock Tower. A franchise of one good game that then got remade followed up by two absolutely awful games. Probably because the kickstarter is by the guy who made the first two clock tower games aka the good ones and then left Human while Human ended up making a lovely 3 game and then selling the rights to Capcom who made the lovely Clock Tower 3. The first two games (SNES and the first PS1 game) are legit good point & click horror games. It's 2/Ghost Head where it got insanely bad and 2 and 3 are just really bad games but in different ways. Then there's haunting ground but idk poo poo about haunting ground.
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Tired Moritz posted:Wait, it is actually made from the guy who made the clock tower series? Yeah, the guy that made the SNES and first PS1 clock tower game is the one making NightCry Project Scissors NotClockTower.
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Songbearer posted:With the first three Silent Hills (Though less so in the third) the characters have a subdued, dreamlike approach to the weirdness going on around them rather than a panicky OH poo poo OH gently caress LOOK AT THAAAAT which is like the equivalent of a 3D movie making things fly at the audience for no reason Why do you stop at the first three silent hills? Did you not play 4? Henry is perhaps the epitome of the "subdued dreamlike" Silent Hill protagonist. Dude gives perhaps the bare minimum of a gently caress to what's happening. I'm playing Downpour for the first time and it really kills the mood when Murphy yells "OH gently caress!" to every monster.
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On the subject of every horror game aping the look of the most recent big release, here's one that missed that particular memo: http://www.gameinformer.com/games/back_in_1995/b/pc/archive/2015/04/17/polygon-like-it-s-1995-in-new-ps1-style-survival-horror-game.aspx I'm legitimately more interested in this game than it warrants.
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Junk posted:Why do you stop at the first three silent hills? Did you not play 4? Henry is perhaps the epitome of the "subdued dreamlike" Silent Hill protagonist. Dude gives perhaps the bare minimum of a gently caress to what's happening. It seems like opinions on 4 are pretty mixed, but I think it still fits in with the "classic" Silent Hills better than the ones that came after it. I think the main thing that bugs people is the story being fairly different from the previous games - it's much more of a traditional ghost story than the kind of weird psychological stuff the previous games did, with an obvious antagonist that's responsible for all the weird poo poo happening. There's less of a "WTF just happened?" feeling after you finish it.
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