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Harime Nui posted:"Mutation" in X-Men parlance isn't created by natural selection, it's an extra gene literally grafted into the human DNA strand by ancient alien fuckery in order to turn humans into a race of Space Gods. It started to activate more frequently in the 20th century due to something something radiation/Atomic Age.
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# ? May 19, 2015 13:51 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 12:14 |
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Chill Penguin posted:On a different note: What's worth catching up on from the post-Schism/Marvel NOW! stuff? I've read the first dozen or so issues of Bendis' stuff, as well as All-New X-Factor, Magneto, X-Men, and maybe an issue or two of the various X-Force comics. I know Legacy is dope, as well as Uncanny Avengers, but those are pretty separate from the current continuity leading up to Secret Wars, right? Anybody?
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# ? May 19, 2015 14:19 |
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Wolverine and the X-Men, first volume. The second one is apparently not very good. Spider-Man and the X-Men.
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# ? May 19, 2015 14:24 |
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Oh yeah I've read Aaron's complete run of WATXM, good stuff.
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# ? May 19, 2015 14:50 |
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Chill Penguin posted:Oh yeah I've read Aaron's complete run of WATXM, good stuff. Have you read X-Club?
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# ? May 19, 2015 14:57 |
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Harime Nui posted:Why do people want there to be "drawbacks" to mutation? What's the point in mutants being killed by their own powers other than "ha ha the racist humans are right, get ownt muties" The concept of Xavier's school wasn't as a superhero academy: it was to gather mutants, teach them control of their powers and help them adapt to their new reality. X-Factor was the same deal with "mutant hunters" as the cover. Many major Silver Age X-Men had powers that were either wonky or made it difficult for them to pass as human: Cyke's eyebeams, Angel's wings, Jean's telepathy that required suppression for some time, Rogue's inability to be touched, Nightcrawler's demonic form, Havok's control issues, Beast's pre-serum simian body to an extent. Even then, they could slip on some ruby quartz glasses or wing straps and go down to the local McDonald's without causing a major commotion. (Nightcrawler did so briefly via image inducer until he decided to give it up.) The Morrison era and beyond were important for introducing a vast cast of young mutants who can't just put on some straps or glasses and look human, arguably making that the new norm. Even many who are completely comfortable with their powers (Rockslide as the poster child) require specialized training and coping techniques.
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# ? May 19, 2015 15:21 |
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What ever happened to Beak? I figured he died on M day. Man mutants are going to be pissed at Wanda all over again when they find out she wasn't a mutant after all. Just another human trying to exterminate the Mutant race, no better than Stryker, Red Skull or anyone involved with Sentinels.
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# ? May 19, 2015 16:04 |
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He lost his powers which made him look normal again, then was in the depowered mutants version of New Warriors. The last thing Marvel's database has him in was in 2011.
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# ? May 19, 2015 16:10 |
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redbackground posted:Have you read X-Club? Yeah, but I wasn't really into the whole "SCIENCE!" as a verb/exclamation vibe, however Spurrier's more recent stuff has all been pretty cool that I've read.
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# ? May 19, 2015 16:18 |
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Dacap posted:Uncanny # 600, Bendis' last issue was supposed to come out this month. Now it's been pushed back to OCTOBER I think it's hilarious they expect us to believe Brilliant #6 and Scarlet #8 are ever coming out. I'll pick them up the day Daredevil/Bullseye: The Target #2 comes out.
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# ? May 19, 2015 17:57 |
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Brocktoon posted:I think it's hilarious they expect us to believe Brilliant #6 and Scarlet #8 are ever coming out. I'll pick them up the day Daredevil/Bullseye: The Target #2 comes out. That's the same day Hawkeye #22 comes out, right?
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# ? May 19, 2015 18:38 |
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A Tin Of Beans posted:That's the same day Hawkeye #22 comes out, right? The delays on Hawkeye #22 don't even come close to the other 3...
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# ? May 19, 2015 18:56 |
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Whatever happened to X-Corp? That doesn't get mentioned when people talk about Marvel cocking up Morrison's New X-Men.
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# ? May 19, 2015 18:58 |
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Die Laughing posted:Whatever happened to X-Corp? That doesn't get mentioned when people talk about Marvel cocking up Morrison's New X-Men. Blew up after M-day. Literally.
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# ? May 19, 2015 19:03 |
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Scarlet Witch posted:"No more mutants."
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# ? May 19, 2015 19:18 |
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marvel mutants are terrifying oh look this teenager gained the ability to blow up buildings with his hands. Oh and this guy can read and alter your mind
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# ? May 19, 2015 23:14 |
Aphrodite posted:He lost his powers which made him look normal again, then was in the depowered mutants version of New Warriors. Depowered Beak was inexplicably super buff and hot in New Warriors. It was a bad comic.
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# ? May 19, 2015 23:24 |
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Lurdiak posted:Depowered Beak was inexplicably super buff and hot in New Warriors. It was a bad comic. Yeah, when M-Day initially depowered him he just kinda looked like DJ Qualls.
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# ? May 19, 2015 23:31 |
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Zzulu posted:marvel mutants are terrifying Look at this flatline scum.
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# ? May 19, 2015 23:50 |
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Lurdiak posted:Depowered Beak was inexplicably super buff and hot in New Warriors. It was a bad comic. He looked more like you'd expect in Vengeance, which never got any follow up. That was a good book.
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# ? May 20, 2015 00:03 |
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I've been reading all of Claremont over the years through the essentials, but only recently discovered that vol 6 is out of print, so I had to skip to 7. I knew it would be skipping a stories, but seeing non-Asian Psylock is really weird. Like I have never seen Betsy any other way. Longshot made sense because I read his origin mini a few years ago. Also discovering the Owl was supposed to be the first major villain in X-factor is just weird.
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# ? May 20, 2015 00:06 |
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twistedmentat posted:I've been reading all of Claremont over the years through the essentials, but only recently discovered that vol 6 is out of print, so I had to skip to 7. I knew it would be skipping a stories, but seeing non-Asian Psylock is really weird. Like I have never seen Betsy any other way. Longshot made sense because I read his origin mini a few years ago. http://www.amazon.com/Essential-X-M...en+essentials+6
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# ? May 20, 2015 01:22 |
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That is totally weird because last time I check it said out of print, must have gotten some more in stock.
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# ? May 20, 2015 02:01 |
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IUG posted:Look at this flatline scum. flatscan
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# ? May 20, 2015 04:06 |
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Chill Penguin posted:Anybody? I liked Cable & X-Force, and a lot of people like Spurrier's X-Force after that (which stars Cable). Make sure you don't get the other X-Force that ran concurrently with C&X-F which features Storm and Psylocke because that poo poo is dire.
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# ? May 20, 2015 05:32 |
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Here's an interview with Bendis. You can practically feel the through the screen.
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# ? May 20, 2015 20:39 |
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Endless Mike posted:Nah, that's some Earth X poo poo that only applies to that universe and any forking off it. 616 mutants are just supposed to be the further evolution of humanity. It's still kind of the implication of Apocalypse finding a buried Celestial starship IIRC but yeah, basically the Ancient Aliens thing was kinda a recurrent suggestion in the 90's but has been quietly dropped by now I'm sure. Which is too bad, it was awesome how well that tied everything together, with mutants/inhumans being a foreshadowing of man's emergence into a race of beings like the Eternals (or DC's New Gods, same difference). Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 22:08 on May 20, 2015 |
# ? May 20, 2015 22:03 |
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I've liked these last couple issues of Uncanny. #34 was nice, letting Dazzler finally do stuff. The ending makes me wonder if there might be actual plans to do stuff with the kids from Scott's school. I do generally like them.
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# ? May 20, 2015 22:40 |
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I like how Mystique turned into Logan after Emma and Jean. But yea, this issue was excellent. Stupid Bendis leaving the decent stuff for the end of his run.
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# ? May 20, 2015 23:53 |
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I really believed that Cyclops and Mystique had an affair there for those two panels because that's stupid enough for Bendis to have done it. I still can't believe he had Xavier marry, have a kid with, and leave the school to Mystique - and then time travel it away so he doesn't ever have to explain how such a ridiculous thing would be.
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# ? May 21, 2015 00:05 |
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#34 was nice because Mystique finally got beat. She's been in so many books for so long manipulating everyone flawlessly with zero consequence it's driven me up the wall, but she lost a fight here with no epilogue showing how it was her plan all along. I've never felt such schadenfreude towards a fictional character.
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# ? May 21, 2015 09:06 |
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I just assumed Bendis liked the First Class relationship and wanted a version to be in the main story but by the time he was done writing the whole arc was like "nahhh."
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# ? May 24, 2015 12:14 |
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Rick posted:I just assumed Bendis liked the First Class relationship and wanted a version to be in the main story but by the time he was done writing the whole arc was like "nahhh." That Mystique is so interesting and central yet completely irreconcilable to the comic version in the films must bug Marvel so much.
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# ? May 24, 2015 19:56 |
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Neo_Reloaded posted:I really believed that Cyclops and Mystique had an affair there for those two panels because that's stupid enough for Bendis to have done it. I still can't believe he had Xavier marry, have a kid with, and leave the school to Mystique - and then time travel it away so he doesn't ever have to explain how such a ridiculous thing would be. It was worth it for Emma's reaction.
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# ? May 24, 2015 19:59 |
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Nobby posted:That Mystique is so interesting and central yet completely irreconcilable to the comic version in the films must bug Marvel so much. Isn't that precisely what Secret Wars is supposed to fix? Blow up 616 and Ultimate, grab the best elements from those and cinematic and build a new universe?
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# ? May 24, 2015 20:17 |
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Cabbit posted:Isn't that precisely what Secret Wars is supposed to fix? Blow up 616 and Ultimate, grab the best elements from those and cinematic and build a new universe? I would not be the least bit mad if we came out of this with obviously-JLaw-Mystique.
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# ? May 24, 2015 20:52 |
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Cabbit posted:Isn't that precisely what Secret Wars is supposed to fix? Blow up 616 and Ultimate, grab the best elements from those and cinematic and build a new universe? From what I have seen, they are taking the DC approach to this, so there isn't really a coherent plan in place. It won't be anywhere near the clusterfuck DC was at the beginning tho.
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# ? May 24, 2015 21:03 |
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TwoPair posted:#34 was nice because Mystique finally got beat. She's been in so many books for so long manipulating everyone flawlessly with zero consequence it's driven me up the wall, but she lost a fight here with no epilogue showing how it was her plan all along. I've never felt such schadenfreude towards a fictional character. Mystique should have been killed off way back in the "Kill Mystique" storyline and it should have ended there. Yet for some reason, much like Sabertooth coming back, someone decided that they needed to be brought back and so they were. I honestly preferred Mystique back in the old Claremont days because at least then she was just a mercenary and hadn't really hosed the X-Men over for years and years. God sometimes I hate comics for this very reason that mainstream is so unlikely to leave anything the gently caress alone if they think the return of it will even momentarily pop the numbers on a book.
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# ? May 25, 2015 13:34 |
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Here's Interview with the X-Men '92 writers. They've confirmed Scumbag Gambit. Also, a preview that slipped past the radar.
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# ? May 27, 2015 11:29 |
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I loving hate CBR. Why include "don't show me this again" as an option if you're going to give me that stupid popup EVERY FREAKING TIME???
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