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Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole
How many days does the second arc of Record Breaker have? I've beaten Spica and it just seems odd if they really end it after the third day.

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Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

Momomo posted:

How many days does the second arc of Record Breaker have? I've beaten Spica and it just seems odd if they really end it after the third day.

Five.

Blaine the Train
Aug 18, 2006
Choo choo, pardner.
I finally beat SMT4, and was wondering if there's any real reason to pick New Life over Reincarnation? The wiki I was looking at for info was making it sound like the NG+ quests and expert difficulty only pop up on New Life, and I just wanted to confirm if that's the case or if he info on here is just worded badly.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Blaine the Train posted:

I finally beat SMT4, and was wondering if there's any real reason to pick New Life over Reincarnation? The wiki I was looking at for info was making it sound like the NG+ quests and expert difficulty only pop up on New Life, and I just wanted to confirm if that's the case or if he info on here is just worded badly.

You can access those quests in every new game+.

cdyoung
Mar 2, 2012
They're just slightly easier when you're Lv 99 with the best armor, weapon and demons.

Captain Walker
Apr 7, 2009

Mother knows best
Listen to your mother
It's a scary world out there
I'm guessing the DLC battles in Record Breaker prevent you from getting the "beat game with no free battles" title? It's my second run and I'm trying to clean up as many titles as possible so I can get those sweet NG+ rewards and move onto the Triangulum arc.

SC Bracer
Aug 7, 2012

DEMAGLIO!
They don't actually count as free battles. I'm a scrub who bought the macca dlc.

Captain Walker
Apr 7, 2009

Mother knows best
Listen to your mother
It's a scary world out there
I got them all, and I can't even use fiends as an excuse this time =T

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

The Bel onslaught on day seven of DeSu1 can go gently caress itself.

Surprisingly, low on mp, health, and demons, I managed to make it to Belzeboul, but gently caress I don't want to deal with these stupid boss gimmicks again.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I killed them all in one round with dual shadow holy dance.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
So I was fighting the Ticos and it was going shaky but alright until suddenly they cast Megidoladyne and my entire team wiped instantly and I just grinned and started laughing and I couldn't stop laughing for my entire second run of the battle. God damnit now I'm laughing again. Can't believe they brought Megidoladyne back. What a story Mark.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I managed to beat every bel. By the time Belberith rolled around, all I had left was Atsuro and Naoya, and Naoya is sort of useless since MC is my mage. But when I beat Belberith, I was relieved, and then another loving form of Babel cam around and killed everyone. loving poo poo how long is this goddamn fight?

Ibram Gaunt posted:

I killed them all in one round with dual shadow holy dance.
Do you remember your set up at all? My MC has 26 magic, but Holy Dance only does, like, 250 damage, and Dual Shadow didn't activate at all. I've been getting through just about everything with Deathbound.

Gwen
Aug 17, 2011

you have only 26 magic???

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I probably hosed up because I was really bad at this game before I dropped it. Hell, I'm still bad it seems.

My STR is 16, Magic 26, VIT 20 (or 21, I can't remember,) and Agility is 18.

Gwen
Aug 17, 2011

I'm assuming you wanted to be able to equip every skill and spread yourself thinner than a trash built NPC

Nuffkins
Apr 20, 2014

Worst Girl posted:

My STR is 16, Magic 26, VIT 20 (or 21, I can't remember,) and Agility is 18.

Always min/max your stats. Go all magic or all strength. Focus agility or vitality. Thing is, you'll never max every stat. Devil Survivor has stat requirements for skills, so find the ones you'll use and hit their minimum requirements. Then, focus the stats you want most. Ignore everything else.

That build doesn't work. It has too much strength and agility. You don't need much of either if you go Mag/Vit. Or go the other way. Just don't split it all down the middle — set priorities.

Nuffkins fucked around with this message at 03:30 on May 28, 2015

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

BFC posted:

I'm assuming you wanted to be able to equip every skill and spread yourself thinner than a trash built NPC
Not really for skills, I was always doing a magic build, but then I kept thinking "Oh, I don't want to need to rely of a physical hit and not be able to do any real damage" or "agility is good to have so I move faster and don't get hit as much."

So in order to actually get through this and the eighth day, do I need to grind a lot and try to unfuck this build as much as possible, or do I just grind for orochis and laksimis and give those to everyone or something?

Butt Ghost fucked around with this message at 03:09 on May 28, 2015

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

So, just beat the new final boss of Record Breaker. What a letdown.

The first stage was pretty good, with the factor of heat being pretty strong and taking some time to beat.
However, the second stage was pathetic. The other three factors went down easier than every other boss in the game.
The final stage was also a pretty big letdown. The only thing the boss could do was inflict status effects, and was weak to ice. I killed him so fast that his second form only had 1 hp.

At least the ending was really good.

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

Worst Girl posted:

I probably hosed up because I was really bad at this game before I dropped it. Hell, I'm still bad it seems.

My STR is 16, Magic 26, VIT 20 (or 21, I can't remember,) and Agility is 18.

If you were a member of my party you would be permanently benched. Instead of putting points in strength and put those in magic instead you would have 37 Magic which is respectable.

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

Worst Girl posted:

Not really for skills, I was always doing a magic build, but then I kept thinking "Oh, I don't want to need to rely of a physical hit and not be able to do any real damage" or "agility is good to have so I move faster and don't get hit as much."

So in order to actually get through this and the eighth day, do I need to grind a lot and try to unfuck this build as much as possible, or do I just grind for orochis and laksimis and give those to everyone or something?

Your build is already hosed but you should still be able to get through the game by fusing good demons.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

So what are some good enough demons to get me through this? The Laksimi in my compendium has shield all, prayer, and samarecarm, and my Arioch is strong against everything and has Deathbound (and I think Peirce). I've mostly been riding off of Deathbound, so Atsuro has been doing me good.

Though leveling seriously doesn't take too long. I could probably get my magic up into the 30's after a few pooping sessions.

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022

BlazeEmblem posted:

So, just beat the new final boss of Record Breaker. What a letdown.

The first stage was pretty good, with the factor of heat being pretty strong and taking some time to beat.
However, the second stage was pathetic. The other three factors went down easier than every other boss in the game.
The final stage was also a pretty big letdown. The only thing the boss could do was inflict status effects, and was weak to ice. I killed him so fast that his second form only had 1 hp.

At least the ending was really good.


It has the same issues as the Polaris fight, but I liked this one better because it did a good job of making you feel powerful. I don't care if it's essentially meaningless in context, being able to walk right across a huge board is pretty cool.

Nuffkins
Apr 20, 2014

littleorv posted:

If you were a member of my party you would be permanently benched. Instead of putting points in strength and put those in magic instead you would have 37 Magic which is respectable.

No, 8 strength is ideal. That lets you use Holy Dance. Next good skill with a strength requirement is Repel Phys at 15. But only go for Repel Phys after Mag and Vit are maxed (which will never happen anyway).

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Worst Girl posted:

So what are some good enough demons to get me through this? The Laksimi in my compendium has shield all, prayer, and samarecarm, and my Arioch is strong against everything and has Deathbound (and I think Peirce). I've mostly been riding off of Deathbound, so Atsuro has been doing me good.

Though leveling seriously doesn't take too long. I could probably get my magic up into the 30's after a few pooping sessions.

exp scales so leveling will start to take long

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

Nuffkins posted:

No, 8 strength is ideal. That lets you use Holy Dance. Next good skill with a strength requirement is Repel Phys at 15. But only go for Repel Phys after Mag and Vit are maxed (which will never happen anyway).

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Still 34 magic is still deece

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

I came up with an awesome setup for Daichi all on my own and am very proud of myself.

Multi-strike
+stone
Grimoire+

As soon as he moves he pretty much ends every single fight.

SC Bracer
Aug 7, 2012

DEMAGLIO!

Worst Girl posted:

So what are some good enough demons to get me through this? The Laksimi in my compendium has shield all, prayer, and samarecarm, and my Arioch is strong against everything and has Deathbound (and I think Peirce). I've mostly been riding off of Deathbound, so Atsuro has been doing me good.

Though leveling seriously doesn't take too long. I could probably get my magic up into the 30's after a few pooping sessions.

the problem with your laksmi is that she does like 0 damage

try to get some mages with actual attacking moves like the elemental or holy dances.

Also just go look at what you can fuse appropriate to your level and go wild really. There's a fantastic search function and you have a compendium because it's overclocked.

Gwen
Aug 17, 2011

littleorv posted:

I came up with an awesome setup for Daichi all on my own and am very proud of myself.

Multi-strike
+stone
Grimoire+

As soon as he moves he pretty much ends every single fight.
Use Hinako with that and watch the game crumble until repel phys

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

BFC posted:

Use Hinako with that and watch the game crumble until repel phys

Sorry but Daichi is my waifu.

SC Bracer
Aug 7, 2012

DEMAGLIO!
daichi's spread is poo poo

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

SC Bracer posted:

daichi's spread is poo poo

Please do not say such sexual things about my waifu. Thanks.

Edit: yeah I know but I still would rather look at Daichi's dumb face then whatever the heck Hinako is wearing.

Inflammatory
Apr 22, 2014
hinako is a cool person and fun to hang out with, but you are free to use whoever you like.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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littleorv posted:

Sorry but Daichi is my waifu.

good taste.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Nuffkins posted:

No, 8 strength is ideal. That lets you use Holy Dance. Next good skill with a strength requirement is Repel Phys at 15. But only go for Repel Phys after Mag and Vit are maxed (which will never happen anyway).

I thought the ideal strength was 10 for the holy moves.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

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SC Bracer posted:

They don't actually count as free battles. I'm a scrub who bought the macca dlc.

Do the special demon bosses you buy from the NG+ rewards count as free battles?

SC Bracer
Aug 7, 2012

DEMAGLIO!

Crabtree posted:

Do the special demon bosses you buy from the NG+ rewards count as free battles?

They're marked as free battles so yeah.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I did it. I have beaten Babel.

Through the power of exploiting Suspend.

Regardless, MC has a good evil smile.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

8th Day Naoya is epic.

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
I forget, which paths make you go through the Bel boss rush? I barely remember it at all.
The one that most sticks to mind for me is when you lose access to your demons but fighter a weaker Babel.

HGH fucked around with this message at 09:23 on May 28, 2015

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Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

Well, I can tell you that Naoya's path leads to it, though I still had my demons.

It feels good being overlord, and I don't feel like my build is a complete lost cause. My stats actually ended up the exact same as Naoya's. If I just pump every point into magic here on out, maybe my MC will become decent.

Multi-Strike seems really over powered. Is it better than Deathbound?

Also gently caress escort missions jesus gently caress why the christ is the farthest survivor the only one without media

Butt Ghost fucked around with this message at 09:43 on May 28, 2015

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