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I've had no problem reading Limsa dialogue and I can't tell if it's my crippling autism that lets me read it so clearly or if other goons are so autistic they can't read it
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May 28, 2015 21:18
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May 28, 2015 21:21
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I mean sure the Adders might slack a little when on primal patrol, but within the lore isn't the Maelstrom arguably the worst since they're the ones that hosed their own beast tribe ceasefire with the Kobolds, which ultimately drove then to summon Titan again? Hence why Cragdad mentions protecting his children in his battle speech?
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May 28, 2015 21:23
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fount of knowledge posted:I mean sure the Adders might slack a little when on primal patrol, but within the lore isn't the Maelstrom arguably the worst since they're the ones that hosed their own beast tribe ceasefire with the Kobolds, which ultimately drove then to summon Titan again? Hence why Cragdad mentions protecting his children in his battle speech? Limsa Lominsa is practically a military state and yes they're kinda bad guys for betraying the peace with the kobolds, who actually come off as probably harmless enough and wouldn't be much of a threat if Maelstrom didn't insist on provoking them, at least going by the beast tribe dailies. But you gotta give Merlwyb some credit for at least bothering to show up with the Maelstrom to confront Leviathan.
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May 28, 2015 21:30
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I haven't done the kobold quest line yet but I kinda got the impression that the whole deal was less "Limsa as a state loving with the beastmen" and more "idiot ex-pirates loving around," and merlwyb just not wanting to cut the idiots responsible loose since it's hard enough keeping limsa together without giving the pirates more reason to rebel.
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May 28, 2015 21:36
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Also Ramuh was never a bother to Gridania so why should they bother with him. Live and let live in the forest, man. He only fights you to make sure you're worthy to actually guard the realm. He's not malevolent at all. And mogglemog, I mean, really? Do you really send the army after one moogle shows up and says the king from heaven has come and we need to go bop his buddies? Why would you send the army after that? Silly moogles.
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May 28, 2015 21:44
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Mr. Nice! posted:Also Ramuh was never a bother to Gridania so why should they bother with him. Live and let live in the forest, man. He only fights you to make sure you're worthy to actually guard the realm. He's not malevolent at all. That's not really how it plays out in the context of the story though, Gridania is the one who requests your aid because they are worried about their primals getting uppity, and they send you to deal with it instead of doing so themselves.
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May 28, 2015 21:51
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Have the nation's armies ever accomplished anything against the primals? I was under the impression using regular people to fight them was a fool's errand, and only capital-h Heroes really have a chance.
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May 28, 2015 21:59
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Magil Zeal posted:That's not really how it plays out in the context of the story though, Gridania is the one who requests your aid because they are worried about their primals getting uppity, and they send you to deal with it instead of doing so themselves. They're to busy keeping all races except elfs down (but not dark elfs cause gently caress them too)
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May 28, 2015 22:01
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Koji actually talked about that last year at the fan fest. Normal people killing primals involved massive armies with hundreds of people dying and fighting through their tempered former allies. The guys you meet in the titan questline are basically the last couple guys that managed to survive and thus take all the credit.
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May 28, 2015 22:01
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Magil Zeal posted:That's not really how it plays out in the context of the story though, Gridania is the one who requests your aid because they are worried about their primals getting uppity, and they send you to deal with it instead of doing so themselves. That's what I'm saying. They need some real poo poo to get the army out. Beard dad has been chilling pretty much forever. The hero dude had some good rapport with the sylphs. He can calm them down. No army needed. When poo poo got real Kann-e-senna rolled out and laid down the law. It's not that they need help with their primals, it's just that you're useful for menial tasks that don't really matter. They make it seem like they're desperate for your help, but they're just really not in the mood to deal with it themselves. They've got a forest to manage. Primals are such small picture things. Keeping the forest happy is #1.
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May 28, 2015 22:02
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I still have no idea how to pronounce most Roe names. I assume her name is pronounced Merl-wib Blow-fis-whagon.
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May 28, 2015 22:07
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Countblanc posted:Have the nation's armies ever accomplished anything against the primals? I was under the impression using regular people to fight them was a fool's errand, and only capital-h Heroes really have a chance. Isn't it established in the Ifrit fight that anybody who finds themself in the presence of a primal gets enthralled and must be killed afterward? I thought they made a big deal about how the echo made it uniquely possible to even approach a primal without getting hosed. Or is that just an Ifrit thing?
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May 28, 2015 22:07
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petcarcharodon posted:Koji actually talked about that last year at the fan fest. Normal people killing primals involved massive armies with hundreds of people dying and fighting through their tempered former allies. I think the Leviathan story line explicitly mentions this. The last time Leviathan showed up, Limsa managed to trap it inside a cave and then sent waves of soldiers in to kill it. Sadly Leviathan wouldn't fall for the same trick twice so they needed to come up with another solution to destroy it, and that's where you and your seven random buddies come into play.
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May 28, 2015 22:09
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Magil Zeal posted:That's not really how it plays out in the context of the story though, Gridania is the one who requests your aid because they are worried about their primals getting uppity, and they send you to deal with it instead of doing so themselves. That's what makes the beast tribe quests so cool because there is a way more nuanced relationship between civilized races and monster races than MMOs usually have, and the beasts that avoided being tempered by their primal aren't super stoked about the situation either.
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May 28, 2015 22:13
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Bah, the kobolds fired first on Limsa Lominsa, at the Red Rooster Stead, by leaving the tunnels and attacking the nearby farmland! It's a questline that starts around level 5 or 7 or whatever, which is totally chronologically before titan, ergo gently caress the kobolds.
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May 28, 2015 22:15
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I think it's supposed to be an actual act of will by the primal to temper someone. Like they can do it basically instantly but it requires a deliberate act to do it. So I think the idea is that armies can defeat them by throwing tons of bodies at them and hopefully kill the primal and it's tempered buddies faster than it can make new ones. So basically just throwing soldiers into a meat grinder until it jams up.
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May 28, 2015 22:18
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There are also the Elementals to keep track of in the Forests. Seems like they are a bigger deal than Primals. So why do they never do anything other than be assholes?
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May 28, 2015 22:22
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Because the Gridanians are too busy worshipping the Elementals as God figures to have beef with them. In between being racist dicks to outsiders. I'm shocked that uldahs money-havers draw more goon ire than the religious forest racists.
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May 28, 2015 22:27
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Kortel posted:There are also the Elementals to keep track of in the Forests. Seems like they are a bigger deal than Primals. They help you out during the Conjurer quests a couple of times. So there's that.
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May 28, 2015 22:27
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PhilippAchtel posted:Hundreds of people toxxed for Mitt Romney during the 2012 US election, and we all know how that turned out for them. The 2016 Clinton vs Clownshoe toxx threads are going to probably purge a shitload of people too.
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May 28, 2015 22:35
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My wife is really bad with names of characters in fantasy games, so when we were talking about the 2.2 story quests (which she just finished), she referred to Teledji as "the potato with the white hair and hat" and Lolorito as "the potato with the face mask". Almost brought a tear of pride to my eye.
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May 28, 2015 22:36
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"Teledji" is really fun to say though :(
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May 28, 2015 22:43
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When I read the detail that there was no way to reverse tempering and affected allies had to be executed, my thought was that someone let Yoko Taro into the writer's room by mistake.
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May 28, 2015 22:56
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If I'm remembering right, Limsa is in an interesting position re: beast tribes. The Sahagins' spawning grounds got wrecked during the Calamity, so they invaded Limsa's lands in order to have a place to reproduce and suchlike, because apparently they have to do that on land. And I seem to recall that because Limsa is growing successfully, they're essentially succeeding themselves to death because they have nowhere to expand except into Kobold lands, and if they don't expand people start going hungry/not having anywhere to live/dying. So Limsa are at the same time the victims of the thing they themselves are doing.
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May 28, 2015 23:35
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petcarcharodon posted:Koji actually talked about that last year at the fan fest. Normal people killing primals involved massive armies with hundreds of people dying and fighting through their tempered former allies. The guys you meet in the titan questline are basically the last couple guys that managed to survive and thus take all the credit. And this is why those that survived this are really weird and hosed up because after living through and surviving that, how the gently caress could they NOT be?
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May 28, 2015 23:36
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What's the real important cross-class skills to get for White Mage?
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May 29, 2015 00:00
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So I playing final fantasy 14 again after 6 months, I hated the old guild I was it, it was small and was kind of run by creeps and always force me to run dragoon even though I hated it. so I started fresh on the goon guild as a potato black mage. I enjoy playing him mush more then dragoon. the gimmick with this class is easier for me to play then attacking from the sides ad back as dragoon.
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May 29, 2015 00:00
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Zerilan posted:What's the real important cross-class skills to get for White Mage? Swiftcast is the big one, but Virus (if your group doesn't have a scholar or summoner) and Eye for an Eye are pretty decent too.
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May 29, 2015 00:01
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Zerilan posted:What's the real important cross-class skills to get for White Mage? Swiftcast is 100% must-have. Eye for an Eye and Virus are must-have if you're doing Coil. Surecast is nice, and the fifth slot can be anything because all your options for it are terrible.
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May 29, 2015 00:03
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Fister Roboto posted:Swiftcast is 100% must-have. Eye for an Eye and Virus are must-have if you're doing Coil. Surecast is nice, and the fifth slot can be anything because all your options for it are terrible. Physick, because cure can't crit.
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May 29, 2015 00:08
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You might think everything is going well in Gridania what with the Sylphs on amicable terms with the Gridanians but if you had bothered to pay any attention to the EXTENDED UNIVERSE BEAST TRIBE PLOT you would know that Ramuh getting mad and killing everyone pretty much depends on if the purple sylphs can successfully kidnap the green sylphs' jesus baby and make it a jerk like themselves. Anyway, the point is that the wind-up violet minion is the best minion in the game and that it's okay to max out your rep with the sylphs.
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May 29, 2015 00:10
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kharaa posted:Physick, because cure can't crit. I think it would be hilarious if they did actually make some difference between cure and physick in HW.
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May 29, 2015 00:15
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Venomous Bite will be the new Fracture.
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May 29, 2015 00:20
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Cyron posted:So I playing final fantasy 14 again after 6 months, I hated the old guild I was it, it was small and was kind of run by creeps and always force me to run dragoon even though I hated it. so I started fresh on the goon guild as a potato black mage. I enjoy playing him mush more then dragoon. the gimmick with this class is easier for me to play then attacking from the sides ad back as dragoon. While you made the right choice on all points, I'm guessing the positionals might have been frustrating because you didn't realize how to distinguish rear/flank/front. If that is the case, look at the targeting circle. The thickness of lines in the circle changes at the borders between the flank and both the front and the rear. e: helpful image 
Boten Anna fucked around with this message at 00:23 on May 29, 2015 |
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May 29, 2015 00:21
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Fister Roboto posted:Swiftcast is 100% must-have. Eye for an Eye and Virus are must-have if you're doing Coil. Surecast is nice, and the fifth slot can be anything because all your options for it are terrible. Ah poo poo, Arcanist is my lowest class too. Mostly doing this to level alongside a tank buddy though so probably won't be running Coil as a healer. I'll probably need that stuff anyway though in HW when I try out Astro.
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May 29, 2015 00:24
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No, 6 months ago DRG was extremely frustrating to play because if you missed your positional on Impulse Drive you couldn't combo.
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May 29, 2015 00:24
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chiming in to say that the rogue quest is my favorite class quest in part because the text was so fun to read. it's even better when I read it outloud.  Jacke is pretty awesome.
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May 29, 2015 00:36
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Zerilan posted:Ah poo poo, Arcanist is my lowest class too. Mostly doing this to level alongside a tank buddy though so probably won't be running Coil as a healer. I'll probably need that stuff anyway though in HW when I try out Astro. Astros won't be able to cross-class arcanist abilities, so you're good to go!
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May 29, 2015 00:41
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Man after finishing this game I really want to know what some of these guys were thinking when they doublecrossed the MC. "Oh he just killed a few god like things, I am sure this won't end badly" Though I am not sure why my monk surrendered to a potato and a couple of guards.
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