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Wolfy posted:I don't even know what the gently caress just happened. Cobalt edge. Hole Squad on that real poo poo
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May 28, 2015 18:39
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Azuth0667 posted:Nothing beats the catalyst for ending highsec pubbie dreams Thrasher does this well too, just in slightly different situations.
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May 28, 2015 18:43
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Ribeye build not included in those Sabre EFT images, author clearly has rocks for brains.
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Foehammer007 posted:I did sabre for years, switched to flycatcher and haven't looked back. Always start with the sabre The Flycatcher is definitely a better fleet dictor what with the whole 24k EHP thing, but it can't hold a candle to the Sabre for small-gang stuff. YouTuber posted:Ribeye build not included in those Sabre EFT images, author clearly has rocks for brains. It's also a bit out of date. If you're thinking of the one with the sensor booster and scram, I came up with that one anyway, he just popularized it. 
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Lowsec incursions are the best loving thing. You set up a gatecamp en route from highsec and the idiocy just flows your way. First we killed a 2.4b vindicator on autopilot and then this guy's megathron:A dead pubbie posted:DovaKiiN Sarn > plz no EDIT: now with proof of idiocy you feelin fucky fucked around with this message at 20:03 on May 28, 2015 |
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May 28, 2015 19:18
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Should have ransomed him first then killed him.
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May 28, 2015 19:31
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Doesn't he know he can have more then one character per account? Or is scouting per log on/log off too slow for him?
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So I'm new & dumb and left some poo poo back in highsec when I joined goonwaffe & suicided my way to Ya0. What's the best way to retrieve it? Fly my rear end back? Have one of my other chars fly it to me? Do both of the above & meet halfway? Libluini posted:Doesn't he know he can have more then one character per account? Or is scouting per log on/log off too slow for him? Who knows. Its pretty hard to miss the two whole grayed out character slots on login, but people are idiots so....
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May 28, 2015 19:40
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Boat posted:So I'm new & dumb and left some poo poo back in highsec when I joined goonwaffe & suicided my way to Ya0. What stuff? It's probably worthless.
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May 28, 2015 19:44
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AAPsel posted:Lowsec incursions are the best loving thing. You set up a gatecamp en route from highsec and the idiocy just flows your way. First we killed a 2.4b vindicator on autopilot and then this guy's megathron: He's got a pretty active killboard... Oh and post the kill, it's not on there. Edit: Nevermind, I thought the dragonborn guy was the vindicator. Demiurge4 fucked around with this message at 19:58 on May 28, 2015 |
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May 28, 2015 19:55
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You nerds should sell incursion permits like code dot sells mining permits.
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May 28, 2015 20:04
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Libluini posted:Doesn't he know he can have more then one character per account? Or is scouting per log on/log off too slow for him? But that would make him miss out on precious incursion time! Think of the ISK/h loss!
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May 28, 2015 20:27
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Libluini posted:Doesn't he know he can have more then one character per account? Or is scouting per log on/log off too slow for him? It would be too slow for me. But then again, I wouldn't jump multi-billion isk ships into dangerous places without a scout in the first place, soooooo
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May 28, 2015 20:36
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evilweasel posted:What stuff? It's probably worthless. Specifically the Thermodynamics skillbook. I got it from some mission, but couldn't inject it because I didn't have the prerequisites, and just ditched it since I was planning in getting the Goonwaffe newbee skillbook pack. Well, Thermodynamics isn't in the pack & costs more than I have on hand since I spent a bunch of ISK on outfitting a ship. I could sell some of the skillbooks I got duplicates of for the funds, but I was going to give them back into the newbee fund since that seems like the right thing to do with stuff I got for free through it.
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May 28, 2015 20:43
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Boat posted:Specifically the Thermodynamics skillbook. I got it from some mission, but couldn't inject it because I didn't have the prerequisites, and just ditched it since I was planning in getting the Goonwaffe newbee skillbook pack. Well, Thermodynamics isn't in the pack & costs more than I have on hand since I spent a bunch of ISK on outfitting a ship. Just post your character name so you can receive a golden shower of isk. If it's boat.. omg.
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Boat posted:So I'm new & dumb and left some poo poo back in highsec when I joined goonwaffe & suicided my way to Ya0. How much stuff are you talking about? If you are any sort of new player it's likely that whatever you left behind isn't worth the effort of collecting. If you actually have stuff worth the trouble, you can either use an alt to move it to jita or have a highsec hauling service do it for you, and then use a JF service to bring it to Deklein for you. Trying to actually fly a ship between highsec and Dek is most likely to get it killed unless you are lucky or good (maybe both?) I have never even bothered trying it because I am terrible. Edit: Boat posted:Specifically the Thermodynamics skillbook. Just forget about it, or better yet, repeat this story on mumble/jabber and people should help you out.
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May 28, 2015 20:47
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Is there a decent Flycatcher fit with light missiles, or is it just in your face rockets? I don't care about the cloak.
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May 28, 2015 21:09
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Demiurge4 posted:Is there a decent Flycatcher fit with light missiles, or is it just in your face rockets? I don't care about the cloak. quote:[Flycatcher, talwar++ copy 1] They'll be getting SIGNIFICANTLY better next week due to the availability of MSEs and MWDs with lower fitting requirements.
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ullerrm posted:They'll be getting SIGNIFICANTLY better next week due to the availability of MSEs and MWDs with lower fitting requirements. Cheers  I want to make use of this to kill some of the interceptors that will undoubtedly show up on Saturday and figured lights was safer and more likely to get hits.
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May 28, 2015 21:44
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Demiurge4 posted:Cheers Cerberus has a RLML bonus.  
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Demiurge4 posted:Is there a decent Flycatcher fit with light missiles, or is it just in your face rockets? I don't care about the cloak. ullerrm posted:They'll be getting SIGNIFICANTLY better next week due to the availability of MSEs and MWDs with lower fitting requirements.
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LML interdictors just feel like a square peg weapon in a round hole tackle method. You're under 20km from your target if you want to keep them bubbled, why use missiles with a 40-60 km range? No-bubble dictors used to be a thing in lowsec but I have the feeling that T3Ds have completely replaced that. Unless you're in a gang I guess. My EFT has a heretic labeled "Stim lml" that must have come from Flanders, but half the slots are empty from module changes. Demiurge4 posted:Cheers
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Klyith posted:A dictor is supremely useless vs interceptors. So yeah, LMLs are really only good for niche stuff like being able to apply some damage in a larger gang after bubbling and burning off.
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May 28, 2015 22:09
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Klyith posted:Unless you're in a gang I guess. My EFT has a heretic labeled "Stim lml" that must have come from Flanders, but half the slots are empty from module changes. Those had no bubble launchers. We were abusing the ridiculous ROF that LMLs used to have, and the resist bonuses of the Heretic, to make a lowsec 60km kiting platform. quote:[Heretic, Robopleasure's Heretic]
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ullerrm posted:Those had no bubble launchers. We were abusing the ridiculous ROF that LMLs used to have, and the resist bonuses of the Heretic, to make a lowsec 60km kiting platform. A sort of "bigger" garmur?
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mikey posted:Everything is useless vs interceptors I'm getting pretty tired of it, and honestly I was one of the people who thought nullified 'ceptors were a cool thing back when they happened and ratters should suck it up. But the fact that the best way to kill them is gimmick "trap" fits like a RLML Drake or some other complete bullshit is just grinding away at me. The non-interaction of three terrible systems -- afk ratters, coward interceptors, and useless defense gangs neutered by the loss of bridges as the homefield advantage -- is just so broken in a game that's all about meaningful player interaction. gently caress. I'm all for nullsec having more risk, but an invincible quadboxed malediction gang is about the stupidest way to deliver it as I can imagine. Would honestly prefer it if there was a 1% chance every hour of use that your own drones would go rogue and turn against you. At least that way there wouldn't be some smirking  guy pretending that this was a PVP situation.NyxBiker posted:A sort of "bigger" garmur?
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ullerrm posted:Cerberus has a RLML bonus. Well then, do go on
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I decided to live in the south for a little while (I did this with no prior research beforehand, it was a spur of the moment thing). It was kinda lame and I wouldn't recommend it, lots of reds to shoot though. Turns out almost all of our enemies live there.
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Klyith posted:full stop. I think hictors should be able to catch everything that would otherwise be nullified. They're rarely flown at the moment due to their high price and how vulnerable they can be, letting them take away nullification would go someway to off-setting this and provide a suitable risk/reward counter for intys.
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pseudanonymous posted:Just post your character name so you can receive a golden shower of isk. If it's boat.. omg. Yeah, I've heard that name is...tainted. Thankfully I went with something else, I'm Talmarc Basiat in game.
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Boat posted:Yeah, I've heard that name is...tainted. I'll contract you one in Ya0 when I log in tonight. I have a few stashed.
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How do you fix interceptors without either making them worthless or completely remodeling the games netcode? Like ideally you would do away with the 1 second tick and all the bullshit that comes with it but I think that's pretty unlikely at this point in the games life cycle.
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mikey posted:Everything is useless vs interceptors if they don't want to engage you. Could you smartbomb them or is it too few ticks before they warp? Of course you would need to know where they are heading. AAPsel posted:Lowsec incursions are the best loving thing. You set up a gatecamp en route from highsec and the idiocy just flows your way. First we killed a 2.4b vindicator on autopilot and then this guy's megathron: I really never understood why people would fly those things without T2 guns. The "long" train it used to be is no longer a thing anyway. supersnowman fucked around with this message at 00:22 on May 29, 2015 |
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causticBeet posted:How do you fix interceptors without either making them worthless or completely remodeling the games netcode? Like ideally you would do away with the 1 second tick and all the bullshit that comes with it but I think that's pretty unlikely at this point in the games life cycle. They just need to have a non-trivial align time and other cost if they're actually nullified. People have suggested lots of options, like making nullification a low slot module you could fit only on interceptors and T3s that included an align time and/or signature penalty. That way they avoid non-targeted warp disrupt effects at the costs of increasing their vulnerability to targeted warp disrupt effects. Borachon fucked around with this message at 00:23 on May 29, 2015 |
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Borachon posted:They just need to have a non-trivial align time and other cost if they're actually nullified. People have suggested lots of options, like making nullification was a low slot module you could fit only on interceptors and T3s that included an align time and/or signature penalty. That way they avoid non-targeted warp disrupt effects at the costs of increasing their vulnerability to targeted warp disrupt effects. What's the point of a non cloaky nullified ship ? Like great I can't be bubbled but the sabre can just long point me anyways. I'd like to see them more cemented as support/tackle ships. Maybe reduce their combat efficiency but add things like web effectiveness, even more sig reduction. Instead of having a "combat" and "tackle" interceptor, why not have combat and travel. Travel captors can be insta warp nullfied whatever but with no bonused weps, and combat ones are similar to how they are now for tackle.
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causticBeet posted:What's the point of a non cloaky nullified ship ? Like great I can't be bubbled but the sabre can just long point me anyways. You warp out before you're pointed.
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causticBeet posted:What's the point of a non cloaky nullified ship ? Like great I can't be bubbled but the sabre can just long point me anyways. Scouting. But seriously, do interceptors pose any real threat beyond killing afk players? Windrunners are hilarious but are definitely a support/thirdparty gimmick. It's not like a pack of roaming interceptors is going to be able to do anything beyond looking for easy ganks.
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pugnax posted:Scouting. Enough of them can kill any ratter. They are essentially a risk-free area denial tool.
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