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Belzac posted:No, 6 months ago DRG was extremely frustrating to play because if you missed your positional on Impulse Drive you couldn't combo. God, I remember old CT2 runs where if a DPS pulled or there was a tank fight. I wouldn't even bother with trying to get a Chaos Thrust or Heavy Thrust because I would miss the positional every loving time from the boss spinning until the aggro tables got settled in. I wouldn't blame anyone bailing on DRG back then, I did until that poo poo got patched.
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Fat_Cow posted:Man after finishing this game I really want to know what some of these guys were thinking when they doublecrossed the MC. That's what I thought. There's no way they have enough guards in this entire city for someone who KILLS GOD on a daily basis. The MC has never been known to show mercy or leave survivors. Agraya fucked around with this message at 00:53 on May 29, 2015 |
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May 29, 2015 00:50
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Fat_Cow posted:Man after finishing this game I really want to know what some of these guys were thinking when they doublecrossed the MC. The MC got bored during the long cutscenes and started mining internally, so you weren't actually paying any attention to what you were doing.
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May 29, 2015 00:54
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"Man rendolent logs are coming up real qui-wait, who died?"
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May 29, 2015 00:58
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The Grimace posted:chiming in to say that the rogue quest is my favorite class quest in part because the text was so fun to read. it's even better when I read it outloud. I did like the end of the rogue questline, I thought it was very lighthearted and fun. Very pirates of the carribbeany (the first one, not the boring ones)
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May 29, 2015 01:06
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Fat_Cow posted:Man after finishing this game I really want to know what some of these guys were thinking when they doublecrossed the MC. I think the main misstep was who finds you. Like if it was Swift(Flame Commander dude) and he either kinda suspected you or was like "Dude poo poo is going down we have to escape" it would've made some sense. Having the pc get confronted by the main villain who we'd like to murder and surrendering without some sorta gameplay to show why you are is just frustrating. But if it was an ally...more understandable. Not like your character needed to be in the dining hall. 
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May 29, 2015 01:12
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Ainsley McTree posted:I did like the end of the rogue questline, I thought it was very lighthearted and fun. Very pirates of the carribbeany (the first one, not the boring ones) Probably not unrelated is the fact that when Jacke joins you in the quest fights, his combat model is named Captain Jacke.
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May 29, 2015 01:16
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We've touched on this before and there's reason in game that you were caught dead to rights and stuck: mechanically speaking, weapon damage is everything. Even level 50 with a level 1 weapon will struggle and you have no weapon at all while you're in with the sultana. Second, you're the hero and killing dozens of cops is probably not a good idea even if you did have a weapon.
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May 29, 2015 01:17
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"I'm innocent, ignore the 15 guards and member of the Syndicate I killed" doesn't really work out well when testifying your innocence.
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I'm not going to bother spoiler tagging so if anyone is avoiding 2.55 spoilers, probably avoid this post.Fat_Cow posted:Man after finishing this game I really want to know what some of these guys were thinking when they doublecrossed the MC. To give them some credit, yes you are Captain McAwesome Godprimalslayer, but how things play out isn't exactly unrealistic or even inconsistent with the lore or mechanics. You can't teleport away, you're in combat, and besides aren't there some kind of magical forensics that can tell where you teleported to? Sneaking out and taking the long, windy, and way less traceable path to Coerthas was probably a good call. Additionally, slaughtering an entire town's defenses and citizens would be a pretty quick way to turn everyone's adoration for you into hatred. Politically and morally, it'd be a terrible move. I'd also argue that the double-crossing wasn't undertaken without quite a bit of consideration. We don't even know the entire plot yet; it seems like even Ascians are involved somehow. They did a LOT of sneaking around and underhanded conspiracy poo poo, as well as played politics in a way to force you (the MC) to just let them do what they will or face huge political and personal disaster. For the low-grade pop "art" that FFXIV's plot is, its verisimilitude ain't bad. We can all thank Koji for that.
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May 29, 2015 01:23
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Also you wouldn't be able to go back to uldah like you can now if you murdered them all. Currently the explanation that we can visit uldah is that the dude hasn't made her death public and the common folk think you're a hero and don't belive any of the lies.
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May 29, 2015 01:28
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Holyshoot posted:Also you wouldn't be able to go back to uldah like you can now if you murdered them all. Currently the explanation that we can visit uldah is that the dude hasn't made her death public and the common folk think you're a hero and don't belive any of the lies. This. It's critical to realize that the MC escaping with his or her hands clean severely monkey wrenched the Syndicate propaganda machine. It's why Lolorito was not pleased at the end. A dumb gently caress like Teledji (if he was still alive) might have called it a win but Lolorito is smart enough to know that they won the battle but endangered the war.
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May 29, 2015 01:43
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as opposed to if you knifed your way out they'd have a big pile of bodies with the sultana's on top and yelling "the warrior of light is a friggin psycho"
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Holyshoot posted:and the common folk think you're a hero and don't belive any of the lies. The MC is Captain Basch!
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Captain Oblivious posted:This. It's critical to realize that the MC escaping with his or her hands clean severely monkey wrenched the Syndicate propaganda machine. It's why Lolorito was not pleased at the end. A dumb gently caress like Teledji (if he was still alive) might have called it a win but Lolorito is smart enough to know that they won the battle but endangered the war. That scene with Teledji getting ripped in half is probably my favorite moment of this entire story. The whole time these scenes were happening, I started to get really bummed because I though "gently caress man, I know Omega won't be happening to the expansion, so I have to wait to murder this dude." So when he got bisected, I was quite pleased.
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sword_man.gif posted:as opposed to if you knifed your way out they'd have a big pile of bodies with the sultana's on top and yelling "the warrior of light is a friggin psycho" The real solution is to knife your way out and keep knifing until there's no one left to knife. That way the Warrior of Light is a mute, bloodthirsty psychopath, but the Monetarists and Brass Blades don't say much about it.  Really, that's how I envision my character anyway. "Hey pal, go waltz into the Castrum and fulfill this arbitrary objective. Eorzea is depending on you!" *nod* (yeah sure okay I'll do anything if it means morally justifiable slaughter)
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May 29, 2015 02:48
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Holyshoot posted:Also you wouldn't be able to go back to uldah like you can now if you murdered them all. Currently the explanation that we can visit uldah is that the dude hasn't made her death public and the common folk think you're a hero and don't belive any of the lies. Wouldn't the common folk be just as happy if you wasted almost everybody in the room? "The syndicate killed your beloved Sultana, so I murdered the poo poo out of all of them" would seem like it would be well received.
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May 29, 2015 02:48
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I realize it's old hat for most but   Not much left to go.
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May 29, 2015 02:49
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Iron Tusk posted:Wouldn't the common folk be just as happy if you wasted almost everybody in the room? "The syndicate killed your beloved Sultana, so I murdered the poo poo out of all of them" would seem like it would be well received. "The Warrior of Light is a catte of few words, but on her behalf, let me just say that the thousands who died in and around the palace grounds tonight were probably pretty much asking for it."
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Iron Tusk posted:Wouldn't the common folk be just as happy if you wasted almost everybody in the room? "The syndicate killed your beloved Sultana, so I murdered the poo poo out of all of them" would seem like it would be well received. It's much easier to get people to believe you're innocent if you haven't just killed dozens of police officers.
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May 29, 2015 02:56
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May 29, 2015 02:59
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"That dude who stands in the housing district 23 hours a day? Sure whatever, Pal." 
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The sequence never really bothered me (I suppose I am used to JRPG moments where the player is railroaded despite having the means to resist). Still, it would have worked better if they forcibly took the MCs weapons and armor, so they had no choice but to run and rely on the Scions. Afterwards, Raubahns potato son could give you back your equipment. Also, they could have had Ilbert personally come in and KICK YOUR rear end. Use that moment to build him up as the next big bad.
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Iron Tusk posted:Wouldn't the common folk be just as happy if you wasted almost everybody in the room? "The syndicate killed your beloved Sultana, so I murdered the poo poo out of all of them" would seem like it would be well received. Except you have no proof. So you still look like a crazy.
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Holyshoot posted:Except you have no proof. So you still look like a crazy. Of course, who's going to argue with a known serial axe murderer?
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Unlucky7 posted:Also, they could have had Ilbert personally come in and KICK YOUR rear end. Use that moment to build him up as the next big bad. It helps if the Muscle/Dragon beats the gently caress out of the hero the first time they fight afterall.
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vOv posted:It's much easier to get people to believe you're innocent if you haven't just killed dozens of police officers. Police officers that literally everyone knows are corrupt, which is apparent from the first 60 seconds of playtime if you have a class from Ul'Dah. Holyshoot posted:Except you have no proof. So you still look like a crazy. With the exception of the Sultana, everyone that the people love walks out of the room, everyone the people hate die. It's pretty apparent that the commoners hate the Syndicate. They already don't believe anything about what Lolorito says about what happened, why would you think that they'd react negativly if it was the syndicate members dead and on the run instead of you. Especially if an Intact Raubahn is on your side. Meldonox posted:Of course, who's going to argue with a known serial axe murderer - who's also a worldwide folk hero? Really though, the best possible thing that could have happened in that scene is to just have your character Swiftcast + Raise.
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Iron Tusk posted:Police officers that literally everyone knows are corrupt, which is apparent from the first 60 seconds of playtime if you have a class from Ul'Dah. Everyone knows Baltimore police are corrupt as poo poo too, but it still wouldn't be ok to go murder all of them.
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May 29, 2015 03:31
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Leave it to goons to take a perfectly civil conversation in the worst possible direction.
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Dryzen posted:what the gently caress thread Scared?
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Countblanc posted:Scared? very
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Whizbang posted:Everyone knows Baltimore police are corrupt as poo poo too, but it still wouldn't be ok to go murder all of them. Says you 
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Boten Anna posted:To give them some credit, yes you are Captain McAwesome Godprimalslayer, but how things play out isn't exactly unrealistic or even inconsistent with the lore or mechanics. You can't teleport away, you're in combat, and besides aren't there some kind of magical forensics that can tell where you teleported to? Sneaking out and taking the long, windy, and way less traceable path to Coerthas was probably a good call. Additionally, slaughtering an entire town's defenses and citizens would be a pretty quick way to turn everyone's adoration for you into hatred. Politically and morally, it'd be a terrible move. Except killing your way through the Brass Blades would be more like in Captain America 2 when Rodgers beats the poo poo out of the strike team and escapes from the SHIELD building. Yeah a bunch of rank and file might follow orders but there's going to be a large number of people wondering what the gently caress's really going on. "The MC and Raubahn decided to commit regicide? Yeah I can believe that since it's being claimed by the political force that opposed the Sultana" would be something the commonfolk believe? Really? Two people who are BFFs murder the Sultana and the closest thing to a witness is the group who opposed her politically? sword_man.gif posted:as opposed to if you knifed your way out they'd have a big pile of bodies with the sultana's on top and yelling "the warrior of light is a friggin psycho" You mean the big pile of bodies the rest of the Scions made and that could still be blamed on you because how the gently caress are the average citizens going to know?
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For all I know getting captured is part of another of Minfilia's dumbass plans, so I'm just going to play along until someone lets me know we're at the killing everything part of the plan.
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I just looked up the story for Coil Am I right in understanding that Dalamud is ~basically~ just a dragon version of the fayth wall on Mt. Gagazet from FFX?
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Dryzen posted:what the gently caress thread
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A new theme for the Warrior of Light just got leaked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YgZX9Thm0
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