KoB posted:

Just because hes gay and doesnt want to bone her doesnt mean he cant appreciate a hot rear end.

Dolash posted:

Are we sure about that? Didn't Davesprite do Dave's personal quest? I mean, he did at least some of his own when he was Future Dave in the crappy timeline, but for some reason I thought he was doing the rest of it in the main timeline too.

Lizard Wizard posted:

Jasprosesprite does NOT have legs. Just shoes on the ends of the two ghostbutts of her constituent parts.

Whitenoise Poster posted:

Now we need to find some inexplicable way for Dave and Rose to combine with their animal sprite selves like Jade did so Homestuck could Officially be a furry comic.

Whitenoise Poster posted:

Now we need to find some inexplicable way for Dave and Rose to combine with their animal sprite selves like Jade did so Homestuck could Officially be a furry comic.

Blackheart posted:

Speaking of humanimals I forgot that Aurthour is totally out there with the felt, alive for some reason.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Well, that's a great place to end the week (sob). So this is where Jade met her Denizen, who is now gone, hence "Welcome back." I'm pretty sure this is the Calliope who beat Caliborn.

Ariong posted:

The only ways that the Becs have been shown indulging their dog instincts have been by protecting Jade and chasing cats. Obviously Jade can't do the first one

glowing-fish posted:

I'm glad I hedged my bets by making at least one guess on tumblr that Calliope might have something going on other than what we've seen.

I was actually thinking this as far back as yesterday: the Calliope we've been seeing seemed to have a slightly ominous expression.

Also, does this mean red is the blood color of predomination?

glowing-fish posted:

I'm glad I hedged my bets by making at least one guess on tumblr that Calliope might have something going on other than what we've seen.

I was actually thinking this as far back as yesterday: the Calliope we've been seeing seemed to have a slightly ominous expression.

Also, does this mean red is the blood color of predomination?

Glowing Fish on tumblr posted:

Caliborn and Calliope as abuser and victim

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Caliborn and Calliope are perhaps the pair of characters in Homestuck who are most easily defined by abuser and victim roles. Caliborn and Calliope are also the pair of characters in Homestuck who are most defined by being stereotypically male and female.

I think this situation needs the discipline of pr96lematics applied to it.

Many other characters in Homestuck have some type of subversion of gender expectations in their characters. Karkat, seemingly grumpy and violent (stereotypically masculine characteristics) is also concerned with relationships and even a big follower of romantic comedies (stereotypically female characteristics). Jade, seemingly flighty, bubbly and concerned with flowers and fashion (stereotypically female) is also a scientific genius, carries a rifle, and is one of the most proactive members of the Beta Kids (stereotypically masculine). This pattern of subversion and avoidance of gender roles continues with the depiction of relationships. The best, and most controversial, depiction of an abusive relationship in Homestuck was between Vriska and Tavros: a relationship where the gender roles were reversed and where the female was the abuser and aggressor (although, of course, that is a simplification).

It isn’t until we meet Caliborn and Calliope in Act VI that we meet a pair of characters where the gender roles are so easily defined. Caliborn’s characteristics are all male, and negative. He is crass, crude, violent, lacks empathy for others, is not verbally skilled, is solipsistic, reductionistic and has a simplistic approach to the world based on winning. Calliope’s characteristics are all feminine, and positive. She is sympathetic, sophisticated, verbal, artistic, creative, concerned with relationships and helping others, and her worldview is based around communality, not winning. These lists could be expanded, but they basically come down to Caliborn as bad and male, and Calliope as good and female. And Caliborn is the abuser and Calliope is the victim. As much as there is hope that Calliope might have a plan, the basic dynamic is still male abuser and female victim.

Which makes me wonder if there is something else going on: why spend so much effort to draw out characters who are not defined by gender roles and typical dynamics of power and abuse…only to make the entire story hinge on such a thing? It makes me wonder if there is not going to be further subversions planned.

Ariong posted:

Realtalk, this version of Calliope is actually legit scary. Like, Caliborn is dangerous and all, but he's ridiculous and adorable. He has learned about the full emotional spectrum secondhand through Calliope, and so knows joy, companionship, and love. Sure, he hates them, but he still expresses them. The person before us, on the other hand, is a truly alien creature; she has never known happiness or compassion. Even given all the time we've spent with our Calliope I have no idea what she will be like because she is so distinctly different.

Dolash posted:

This one predominated Caliborn, right? Which is the natural evolution for a Cherub, and (assuming Calliope was still the "good" one) should mean she's well-rounded with personality aspects from both of them mixed together?

Ariong posted:

Realtalk, this version of Calliope is actually legit scary. Like, Caliborn is dangerous and all, but he's ridiculous and adorable. He has learned about the full emotional spectrum secondhand through Calliope, and so knows joy, companionship, and love. Sure, he hates them, but he still expresses them. The person before us, on the other hand, is a truly alien creature; she has never known happiness or compassion. Even given all the time we've spent with our Calliope I have no idea what she will be like because she is so distinctly different.

GunnerJ posted:

I mean normally I wouldn't even consider anything like this, that putting a justly or heroically killed god tier player's corpse on their quest bed could somehow cause them to re-ascend if there were somehow a dreamer body around for them, but I also never considered the possibility of a sprite prototyping itself with an incomplete sprite to make a double sprite, so gently caress it why not.

Rooreelooo posted:

This is what is known as a God Tier that has ascended past a God Tier... or you could just call this a God Tier^2

GunnerJ posted:

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

So, last chance to guess, how do you think Alt-Caliope killed her brother?

My theory is she pushed him down some stairs.