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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Furnace is gonna get really pissy that Allison is in on his flying game.

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Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Tollymain posted:

i hope furnace is going to kill somebody

Me too.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

He's either on his way to kill someone who has made a rape accusation or Moonshadow is going to slit his idiot throat.

This is clearly going to end with Allison confronting him in the air and giving him a stern lecture. Because if there is anything the authors love is having Allison one-up every character she can.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It
One-upping Furnace is setting the bar pretty low

Rei_
May 16, 2004

The difference between confinement and rest is a shift in perspective

It's basically Something Positive with super powers and a lot less attempted humour at this point

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Brought To You By posted:

This is clearly going to end with Allison confronting him in the air and giving him a stern lecture. Because if there is anything the authors love is having Allison one-up every character she can.

Probably, since Furnace has been basically just an example of a badwrong "hero" from the start whose been established as weaker than Allison, and now she's able to do one of the few things he could do that she couldn't. I can't see him being anything but a really easy target to put Allison on a clear moral high ground for more lecturing.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Jackard posted:

One-upping Furnace is setting the bar pretty low

SFP could win any limbo competition with it's current quality of writing.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Seriously just handing Allison these barrels full o' fish.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
The comic has never been about whether Allison could beat someone in a fight. It's established pretty much from the first chapter that there are maybe a handful of people in the entire world who'd stand a chance against her, and she doesn't really seem worried about fighting any of them. And beating Furnace verbally is basically like winning an argument with a monkey, so I'm hoping something else is going on here.

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Feb 16, 2011

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idonotlikepeas posted:

And beating Furnace verbally is basically like winning an argument with a monkey, so I'm hoping something else is going on here.

You're right, they're probably just going to hurl handfuls of poo poo at each other.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Rei_ posted:

It's basically Something Positive with super powers and a lot less attempted humour at this point

Something loving Positive

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008
I don't know enough about Something Positive to get the comparison here.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012




Beaten.

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008

Zerilan posted:

I don't know enough about Something Positive to get the comparison here.

4-panel comic with lovely art written by a dude who has a compulsion to have every single strip end with a sardonic punchline, no matter whose mouth it's coming out of.

Like, you would have a character who was characterized as some ~super vapid ditzy slut who fucks everything up~ until the narrative suddenly decided "wait, she's actually kind of sympathetic" and had her reply to some strawman's insult with 3 of the 4 panels filled with paragraphs of uncharacteristically well-spoken Sick Burns with no word in edgewise. Or maybe the author decided he wanted to talk about something he hated, so he'd pick some random character and have them mouthpiece about it.

I did genuinely like some of the characterization in the comic, but it was so full of predictable monologues, pretentious bullshit and sarcastic "nobody would actually talk like this in real life though" comments that I quit reading it years ago. It didn't help that around that time the author teased a relationship between the protagonist and another character for years with tons of scenes devoted to genuine emotional development between the two, only to turn around and say "gotcha! that was all a joke, I was trolling my fans lol" and abruptly shoehorn in a self-insert for his IRL girlfriend for the protagonist to date instead.

tl;dr: Something Positive is a bad comic with a lot of unrealistic mic-drop monologues at every opportunity.

Irukandji Syndrome fucked around with this message at 01:22 on May 30, 2015

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

Irukandji Syndrome posted:

tl;dr: is a bad comic with a lot of unrealistic mic-drop monologues at every opportunity.
Ah, now I get it.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
If I were going to criticize Something Positive, I'd probably go with "it's 90% incredibly mean-spirited humor spoken by awful, awful people, and 10% those awful people gradually dragging themselves out of the much to grow as human beings over the past ten years."

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008

Rand Brittain posted:

If I were going to criticize Something Positive, I'd probably go with "it's 90% incredibly mean-spirited humor spoken by awful, awful people, and 10% those awful people gradually dragging themselves out of the much to grow as human beings over the past ten years."

Yeah, that too. It's been so long that I've forgotten how bad some of it was, but I do remember some particularly vile 'ironic' racism with them theming a porno around Native Americans.

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Jul 17, 2009


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Irukandji Syndrome posted:

Yeah, that too. It's been so long that I've forgotten how bad some of it was, but I do remember some particularly vile 'ironic' racism with them theming a porno around Native Americans.

Also Hillbilly D&D tree monsters, with 'hilarious' rape joke.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Basically Something Positive is Questionable Content, but with character growth

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Fried Chicken posted:

Basically Something Positive is Questionable Content, but with character growth

Questionably Positive

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Allison probably won't be ending up in a physical fight with Furnace, because she doesn't have fireproof clothes and it's not that sort of webcomic.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Fried Chicken posted:

Basically Something Positive is Questionable Content, but with character growth
No, no. Even QC at least has Jeph Jacques constantly trying to keep Tumblr happy. Having the main character enter a relationship with a trans girl out of nowhere is hamhanded, but it's a lot better than racist rape jokes.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Say Nothing posted:

Allison probably won't be ending up in a physical fight with Furnace, because she doesn't have fireproof clothes and it's not that sort of webcomic.

Tasteful use of smoke and flames.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Given there weird sphere of telekinesis she exhibited with Patrick, it's possible that he wouldn't even be able to get his flames to touch her now.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 05:23 on May 30, 2015

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Say Nothing posted:

Allison probably won't be ending up in a physical fight with Furnace

So then, you think she'd end up in a firefight with him?

:smugdog:

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
It wouldn't even be a fight. poo poo, the bat guy would have a better chance. But obviously, any conflict between them will come in the form of competing bizarre monologues.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Allison drops mic from two thousand feet above city center, knocks shawarma out of innocent bystander's hands.

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
I hope Moonshadow comes up behind Furnace to slit his throat and he just FLAMES ON and burns the area around his body to 5000 degrees and she turns to ashes

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
The actual punchline of this arc is the main girl having to learn this total rear end in a top hat is untouchable by the law and she can't do poo poo about it

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Harime Nui posted:

The actual punchline of this arc is the main girl having to learn this total rear end in a top hat is untouchable by the law and she can't do poo poo about it

Furnace is C-list trying to make B, he ain't poo poo.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Harime Nui posted:

The actual punchline of this arc is the main girl having to learn this total rear end in a top hat is untouchable by the law and she can't do poo poo about it

What crime has he committed?

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



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Harime Nui posted:

The actual punchline of this arc is the main girl having to learn this total rear end in a top hat is untouchable by the law and she can't do poo poo about it

I'm guessing you mean Patrick? Because yeah, that's the only thing that really happened in this chapter - she's realised that bad boys are also massive jerks. Especially the ones who spent their adolescence as a mass murdering, mind reading Kid Hitler.


I would at least like to know if he was telling the truth when he said he had everyone murdered at the hospital where the female Wolverine was donating her organs every day. Because that's a hell of a thing to throw out there and never reference ever again. It's even more of a hell of a thing for Allison to just casually ignore like that.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
He murdered the protesters who she had also considered murdering. She doesn't give a gently caress about that, but is obsessed with Moonshadow killing rapists. Alison is kind of an rear end in a top hat that way.

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity

Gorilla Salad posted:

I'm guessing you mean Patrick? Because yeah, that's the only thing that really happened in this chapter - she's realised that bad boys are also massive jerks. Especially the ones who spent their adolescence as a mass murdering, mind reading Kid Hitler.


I would at least like to know if he was telling the truth when he said he had everyone murdered at the hospital where the female Wolverine was donating her organs every day. Because that's a hell of a thing to throw out there and never reference ever again. It's even more of a hell of a thing for Allison to just casually ignore like that.

No I mean, if the Flame Dude killed the serial killer and got a tickertape parade, and Allison knows he actually killed a troubled young woman but the public loves him and she has to eat that. It's where I'd take the story but I'm not writing it.

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Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Gorilla Salad posted:

I'm guessing you mean Patrick? Because yeah, that's the only thing that really happened in this chapter - she's realised that bad boys are also massive jerks. Especially the ones who spent their adolescence as a mass murdering, mind reading Kid Hitler.


I would at least like to know if he was telling the truth when he said he had everyone murdered at the hospital where the female Wolverine was donating her organs every day. Because that's a hell of a thing to throw out there and never reference ever again. It's even more of a hell of a thing for Allison to just casually ignore like that.

Pretty sure that was just part of him doing the "saying poo poo to make you hate me so I don't have to deal with emotions" bit.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Zerilan posted:

Pretty sure that was just part of him doing the "saying poo poo to make you hate me so I don't have to deal with emotions" bit.

A big part of the problem is it's completely unclear. Patrick had a characterization, and most of it was thrown out the window in this chapter so that he could be something to react against.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Well, the most popular and strongest superhuman in the world is a woman who quit the superhero biz. That's gotta rankle for such an obvious attention whore who talks like a hilarious men's rights stereotype.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Serious Frolicking posted:

Well, the most popular and strongest superhuman in the world is a woman who quit the superhero biz. That's gotta rankle for such an obvious attention whore who talks like a hilarious men's rights stereotype.

Furnace was really just a character who should have never appeared again after that opening scene

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
In retrospect yeah I was thinking I want to see what Alisson does when the world sides with an rear end in a top hat instead of her but they actually already sorta did that with the Feral arc so nvm. Might be interesting if she has to put down Moonshadow only to see her become sorta a folk hero though.

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JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

Gorilla Salad posted:


I would at least like to know if he was telling the truth when he said he had everyone murdered at the hospital where the female Wolverine was donating her organs every day. Because that's a hell of a thing to throw out there and never reference ever again. It's even more of a hell of a thing for Allison to just casually ignore like that.

I think he was lying, because it was clear he was just trying to say whatever at that point (without thinking things through) to just get a reaction from Allison. He said that after he just spent so much time telling Allison he won't give her Moonshadow's address because solving these problems by taking out one person at a time was a crappy way to deal with societal issues. Since that characterization is more consistent with his character( up to that point I guess), I'm inclined to think that part was the actually honest part. Otherwise why wouldn't he have just given her the info at the start. With the whole, people are chattel and I kill them indiscriminately part being the lie cause he was panicking due to not knowing how to deal with Allison having positive feelings towards him.

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