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Cake Attack posted:there's a couple of legit criminials, but yeah, most people are jean valjean criminals instead. But the trend of moral greyness in my video games! I want an assassin for hire who was sent because he was taking specific bounties on the head of certain people
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gyrobot posted:But the trend of moral greyness in my video games! I want an assassin for hire who was sent because he was taking specific bounties on the head of certain people Let me introduce you to this friend of mine, his name is Faldio and he's pretty edgelord - hell, he's voiced by Cloud Strife, man. Anyway, the back story variety is better for keeping these Fragment ,stories more interesting even if it overall muddies Muh Immersion. How many times would you be able to sympathize with "how did you get in here?" "Shot a guy" before you started hating everyone?
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    Are you blind? I'm right here. Oh! Great, you're here. Did you just get out of bed or something? What do you want? Sorry, it's just that you're usually drinking tea in the cafeteria. Can't an old lady change it up once in a while? I just got worried, jeez. It's hard to be sure how much you elders can keep up at your age. Ah sorry, I forgot you were in active duty pretty recently. You really don't know manners, talking about a woman's age right in front of her. Your loose tongue is exactly why you can't get the ladies. Okay, okay, I got it. How many times do I have to apologize? Looks like we have to take back a mine captured by the Imperials. I expected them to capture strongholds throughout this war, but a mine? Seems they really want the ragnite that badly. Are you daft? Gallia's ragnite supply is the envy of all of Europa. I heard the miners there were captured and forced to dig for them, as well. War isn't kind for civilians, regardless of the side. You're too hot-headed. You need to cool down before your passion burns you out. How can you stay calm about this?! Not just the Imperials, but the mission itself-- Kid, if I busted a vessel every time there's injustice in the world, I'd be a skeleton by dinner. ...Gloria, you've been in the Nameless for a while huh? Two years, I'd say. The only one that's been here longer is Ace. Kid, I'm about to cut that loose tongue of yours at this rate. I may be old, but still tough enough to put a rocket in Imperial heads. Alright! Sorry again. It's just something you can't exactly ignore. You do it by shutting your mouth. Anyways, the mission isn't a big deal. Back in my day, this would be considered an afternoon stroll. Nameless business is easy in comparison. Just what in the world did you do before this....? Money laundering, theft, smuggling, mafia meetings...Eh, nothing too serious. I...see.... A what? Like, to catch bears or something? ...I should have known better than to ask a kid. Kid? Just because you're way older than me-- On second thought, goldfish might be a better name for you.   Is this supposed to be our trump card for the war? Hey! Reading the newspaper? Yup, just reading up this "cooperation" plan with the Federation. Huh? Isn't that a good thing? Sure, in an idealistic world. What's up, Gloria? You don't like the Federation? You should be more concerned with that traitorous Borg than the ratty Feds. Whoah, isn't that going a bit too far? Scumbags are scum, no matter how many wigs it puts on. He's the type to sell Gallia at a moment's notice for power. This "Negotiation" with the Feds are just a cover-up for something more. He's planning something far worse. Gloria, I'm starting to think you may not be fond of him. He loves to weave pretty words to fool the masses, but hire thugs and hitmen to cover up his scandals in the background. That's how people like him exist and live. That's pretty crazy.... Take a good look at his photo mug. Even a glance will tell you he's up to no good! Gloria, I think you have quite an active imagination. Who said I was imagining it? Huh? I know that man's affair better than anyone else. After all, his skeletons weren't the first I put in a closet. Are you serious?! Who are you, Gloria? Oh, look. It's time for the operation to begin. Early bird gets the worm, as us old folks would say.Gloria sketch 
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Tae posted:
You know im still not sure im 100% on Gloria, but this line right here really speaks to me. Also drat Gloria you scary!
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May 30, 2015 22:14
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Cynical badass crime granny is the gift that keeps giving.
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May 30, 2015 22:39
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May 31, 2015 00:19
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Okay so I don't get what this means: Because the translation is either wrong, or they wrote the scene around it wrong.
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Tae posted:Okay so I don't get what this means: Depends on the context a bit, but I would guess something like "Hold on, aren't you really the criminal then?" Clarste fucked around with this message at 01:59 on May 31, 2015 |
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May 31, 2015 01:48
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Inbetween Gloria "looking like a typical old european lady" and the depressing Darcsen looking good "because he's pale and has black hair" the character commentaries seem to still have moments, but overall it's a huge improvement over VC2.
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David Copperfield posted:Oh great, now I have the mental image of Gloria doing a honey pot herself. this but unironically
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  It's been a while since we got here, hasn't it? I wonder if they got lost or something. Don't get your hopes up. I see them now.*An army squad arrives*  Hey, why hasn't the operation started yet? Get moving, now! Yes, sir! Hmph, if it weren't for us, you Nameless would be worthless right now. *Thinks* But you guys were the ones late.... Hey, look! They brought their grandma here as well! ...And what's wrong with me spending time with my boys? I bet she's a criminal like the rest. Didn't you know? The army sends their lawbreakers to the Nameless. Criminals? That's funnier than I thought! Hahahahaha! My, my. You boys talk so big that you must be elite at your jobs. Oh? Yes... Elite at being babies! What did you just say?! Calling others criminals without asking, the nerve! Granny, I'm warning you... You wanna fight?! Sparring with me won't be like kids playing house! Gloria, calm down! Please!*A moment passed as Felix pulled Gloria to the side.* You fool, why did you stop me? You're the one that told me to have a cool head. What's wrong? This isn't like you at all. This is exactly like me, right down to me beating their skulls in! Gloria!  This old lady was busting head with a rifle before they were even born! *Thinks* I don't think that's helping your case.... Let's stop the infighting here, though I'm sure our enemies wouldn't mind if we continued. Gloria, I don't know what's going on with you but please restrain yourself for the time being. An adult needs to be a role model for children, no? Hmph. If that's an order, I'll comply. Good. Everyone, we're beginning the operation. Try to keep your tempers in check from this point on. We're back to the mines maps, where it's twisty and turny with carts and rear end in a top hat canon towers.  God, I am just begging for flamethrowers at this point.  The map is giving us 5 turns to S rank a base capture, horribly broken in half if we bought a rock breaker.  Very horribly.   Good, at least this mission ended in a happy ending. Happy for who, exactly? If you haven't noticed, the tunnel's ready to collapse at any moment from the battle.*Rumbling sound* Wha? What was that noise? That would be the sound of a cave-in. We're trapped here?!*Moments pass as the group slowly recovers from the tunnel collapsing*  Well, we're alive...but not exactly sure on how long. It seems too dangerous to start digging a way out. Hey! This is all your fault! You took too drat long to rescue those civilians, and now we're trapped! Hey, it's not like we knew the cave would collapse and forgot to tell you! Tch! Typical Nameless, still picking a fight! Grr.... I'll have you all court martialed for this! Just wait and see! Are you done yapping yet? What did you say? You old hag-- .... None of us, including you, wanted to leave the civilians behind. And yet here you are, trying to pin the blame on someone else. That's why I called you all babies. Granny, I'm tired of your-- So you have a way out, then? Of course! I already had in mind the exit as soon as the collapse started. If the babies want to grab onto my finger, then follow me! This mine has a secret path out in the back. Huh. It didn't seem like one would be possible, looking at the map. That's why it's called a secret, kid. I see. As long as you're sure. How would you know of this?! Wouldn't you like to know? Your biggest issue right now is whether to die alone or come with us. You... Grr....*Time passes*  Well, I think we'll agree that a court-martial is off the tables now? Gloria, where did that path come from? Oh, that? Just a standard route for smuggling black-market ragnite. That leads into more questions! Who cares? A path's a path, and today it was used to save our lives. Although, after this, I guess it can't be used anymore.... I'll have to inform the "family" to dig up a new path. ...Should I even ask? You're not saying this was from your previous work?  Her Justice: Increase accuracy/defense under interception fire. Gloria art page 
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May 31, 2015 04:49
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May 31, 2015 05:01
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I'm a little behind here, but I gotta say I have some sympathy for Serge because my sister had Cystic Fibrosis and felt the same about her life sometimes.
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May 31, 2015 06:00
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Gloria is really starting to wear thin for me. It might just be the fact that she's been in the last few story lines, but I find the 'always right irregardless, endless font of wisdom' character to be uninteresting.
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moosecow333 posted:Gloria is really starting to wear thin for me. It might just be the fact that she's been in the last few story lines, but I find the 'always right irregardless, endless font of wisdom' character to be uninteresting. On the other hand, old ladies who can get away with throwing all the shade are one of my favorite things ever and I hope Gloria never ever stops.
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EightFlyingCars posted:On the other hand, old ladies who can get away with throwing all the shade are one of my favorite things ever and I hope Gloria never ever stops.
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May 31, 2015 16:57
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She's certainly different in that she's supposed to be old and ACTUALLY looks old, unlike in so many other anime-like games.
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May 31, 2015 18:12
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For a little while I thought it was actually a man in a wig who thought he was an old lady, so they figured they might as well toss the crazy bugger in the Nameless.
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May 31, 2015 18:21
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Samovar posted:She's certainly different in that she's supposed to be old and ACTUALLY looks old, unlike in so many other anime-like games. She's also actually a criminal, having apparently been a hitman, smuggler, and pretty much everything else.
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gyrobot posted:But the trend of moral greyness in my video games! I want an assassin for hire who was sent because he was taking specific bounties on the head of certain people You did this all the time in the VC2 thread too, what is your obsession with edgy grimdark
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Anatharon posted:You did this all the time in the VC2 thread too, what is your obsession with edgy grimdark Given how we are praising VC3 for a great story, there is a good reason for the appeal of moral ambiguity.
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paragon1 posted:I'd like to know more about Felix, since he never seems to shut up. Oh, you have no idea.
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    Annika, please don't run with your food! Hey, stop being a worry wa-aaaaaah! *falls to ground* Oops....*Felix immediately runs over to Annika* Hey, what's wrong?! Annika, are you hurt? Medic, medic! Aw, come on. I just slipped a bit. I think she's fine, Felix. Are you wounded? Let me check right now! Hey, I'm fine compared to the food I dropped.... You can have my lunch. I'll clean up this mess, too. Right now, get to the nurse now!*A moment later, in the medical tent* ...This might be a bit too much. A mountain out of a molehill, even....*Later that week*   Let's see, today I'll carry these boxes here....*Felix immediately runs over to Amy* Those must he heavy, Amy! Let me handle the lifting! Huh? It's just these ration boxes, right? Let me do it! *Runs over to boxes* But uh...I'm almost done--* Felix runs back with boxes* All right, 4 boxes! Where do you want them? Felix, we don't need that much! You don't? Look, I don't mind you helping but right now you're being a hindrance! Oh, s-sorry.*Later that week*  It looks like we have to clear the canyon of Imperials. That type of place isn't exactly kind for the aggressor. Talk about a meat grinder. Mmm, speaking of which, I want to formally complain about the recent lack of chewy meat for dinner.... Hey, I'm being serious here! *Felix runs up to them*  Uh, Felix? Calm down, it was just a metaphor. If you get too worked up, I might end up losing a favourite customer. Don't worry, I won't let that happen! Tell me, was your crime being too annoying to your commanders? Oh, he's a former soldier? I'm wondering myself how you got here. I disagreed with a senior officer's order and got sent here as a result. Doesn't seem like anything out of the ordinary. Yeah, I know that a soldier should follow his commander's orders no matter what... But I couldn't stand the thought of dying because of such an obvious mistake! That's just how the army works. The leader must make all the tough decisions, wrong or not. Right, but there's also nothing wrong with trying to fix that decision. Well then, what do you think about our current captain? That guy? Felix probably hasn't accepted him yet. Look, his record may be excellent, but he himself isn't trustworthy yet. Not to me. I can't trust him if he doing orders like that. Kid, that's war. You don't win battles without risking even a little. I know, I know! But still, something just rubs me the wrong way every time a comrade is put in danger like that! That's just how I feel. Maybe you're not fit to be a soldier. For one thing, you're too jumpy. Come on! Drink some of my soup, it'll calm you down. Sorry...I shouldn't make others worried about me. It's degrading to me! Just drink the soup, already!  Well at least it's safer than being at ground level. No kidding. The place is so hard to travel on, I bet even the Imperials struggled their way through. Wah! *trips* Giuilo! *Felix fires at the ground* Where's the snake?! *Continues blasting the ground around Guilio*  What's going on? There's snakes! I'm scared of snakes! Okay, I think the snake ran away. Giulio, are you hurt? Poisoned? Do you need an antidote?! I'm pretty sure a canyon snake can't bite through military gear. Huh? My leg, it hurts. What, you're injured?! Medic, medic! Will you shut up? It's not a big deal. Bring a stretcher as well! He's got a broken bone! Felix, it's just a sprain.  I'm just tired...Ow! Serge! Where's that stretcher?! Come on, you're going to break my ears at this rate. You should sit tight. If you try to walk, it'll only make the injury worse. Is this all a ploy just to get extra helpings? Who cares about food? I'm worried about you! Hey, shouting at me will just attract attention. Felix threw a temper when I said he couldn't have any more extra steak. Giulio, you-- Quiet, you. Hmm... The tank treads seem to have some malfunction.  Everyone! Break for a rest until repairs are complete! Captain, was that just for Giulio? I don't know what you mean. However, you have a job to do. I do? I want you to scout head at the front while we're at rest. Yes, sir! Hey, just keep an eye out there. The road is more likely to hide snakes than soldiers, if you get what I mean. Yes, it's fine! I tripped on a rock, not a keg of TNT. Okay, good.*Time passes as Felix scouts the area* Alright, everything looks clear here. Hmm? The ground's soft here...but it hasn't rained at all lately. Wait, don't tell me...*He digs up the ground* Aha! The Imperials planted landmines! But what now? The whole area is probably littered with them....Felix sketch 
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Cowboys don't have spiky hair with one off colored patch.  Silly artists.
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  Understood. What do we do now? We can't just push forward to the Imperials as planned. Actually, that's exactly what we'll continue to do. We'll disarm the mines and force on our way through. Hold on! Doesn't this prove the enemy knows about this road?! It'll be safer if we just switch to a different path! That would mean the Imperials will get to the canyon first. Switching routes is denied. But-- Furthermore, the enemy wouldn't think of us continuing past the mines. It's a great opportunity to mount an ambush. I said we're going to disarm them. If we arrive late, the Imperials will seize the advantage. That is a far bigger issue than a few mines. Look, I know you're not wrong.... But I can't accept you being so reckless with this squad's safety! I will not repeat again: We will break through the mines and continuing advancing to the canyon. Grr.... Felix, Kurt didn't make this decision by chance. You know he's not the type to make decisions without thinking it through. I know, but... Our safety is compromised the moment we're deployed for battle. Even so, I still can't let people just throw their lives away so easily! Felix...you're a good person, you know that? Huh? You're too kind to be a soldier. Sorry...I'm just-- I'm a chef. I don't want to worry about war if I can help it. But even I know that you can't win a war without taking some risks. And after hearing Kurt's orders, I feel confident in that he'll take the right risks. Hrm... If I just protect everyone, it'll be fine! What? How are you going to do that? I just will! Whether it's a landmine or enemy soldier, I won't let a comrade die! Count on it!  This is the canyon level at daylight without flooding, with two extra deployment spots across the maps.  Those are rear end in a top hat mines in front of a turret, making it impossible to approach it from the front unless you send out an Armor Tech.  Things got a little dicey because the mission is very mazey with there being layers on a couple of the maps, and I only have 5 turns to kill all the enemies. Thankfully the enemies are aggressive, so I don't have to scour the grass too much to find hiding Imperials.  The nice thing is that you're guaranteed an S rank as long as you finish the mission.  We're alive enough to hear you screaming, kid. Gloria! It's good to see that you're uninjured. You can thank that captain of ours. Getting to the canyon before the Imperials was the key to our survival. I...I guess... Hmm? Wasn't Giulio with you? Wait, he hasn't come back yet? Ah! *runs off* Kid! Where do you think you're going?! *runs back* To find him, of course! There's no time! Imperials are sending reinforcements are close by, kid! Like I care! *runs off* Felix!*Time passed*  I guess Felix was right when he said not to walk on it....*Imperial squads are heard closing in* The enemy! drat it, and I can't even crawl into a hiding spot. Sorry, guys. Looks like this chef cooked his last goose....*Felix arrives* Giulio! Felix?! You idiot, why'd you come back?! Thank god, you're still alive! Listen to me! Just leave me be and run! Shut up! Luggage can't speak. Luggage? What are yo-- You can't move, so I'll carry you back. That makes you luggage! I'm not exactly light, you know. Did you forget I used to be in the army? This is nothing for me!*Felix lifts Giulio to his back* Is your leg fine? Huh? Yeah. drat, you're strong-- Good. Let's move! I hate when others are reckless! If it's myself, then there's no problem! You're not making much sense here.... I lost my whole family in the first war. My father, mother, brother, sister, and grandpa, all gone. Oh.... I think comrades are my family. I'll do whatever it takes to protect them. It's a promise I made when I was a kid. I see.... *thinks* Guess that explains a lot. All right, hold on! I'm going to go even faster! Wait, you're speeding up?! Like I said, it's no problem if I'm reckless!*Time passes*  And he's brought back Giuilio as well! Well, well. Looks like the kid wasn't lying after all. Geez, I can't believe we really made it out alive! Of course we did! After all, comrades are my source of strength! Bond of Friendships: Increase anti-armor/accuracy when near 3+ allies. Felix art page 
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I get where he's coming from, but I think Felix is the most annoying character in the game so far and I'm a little disappointed the resolution wasn't him learning that maybe sometimes you gotta roll the dice. War isn't safe and no matter how often you shout about 'protecting everyone' you aren't gonna change that.
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Night10194 posted:I get where he's coming from, but I think Felix is the most annoying character in the game so far and I'm a little disappointed the resolution wasn't him learning that maybe sometimes you gotta roll the dice. War isn't safe and no matter how often you shout about 'protecting everyone' you aren't gonna change that. Keep in mind that Fragments doesn't mean that their whatever will be fixed or resolved. It's there first and foremost to explain how they got to the Nameless and explore their backgrounds. That's why Giulio and Gloria were just a longer look at their personalities, while Amy/Deit was 90% Deit with Amy supporting. This distinction is there because the original Nameless is more involved in the main story than VC2's classmates. It's similar to VC1 when Largo's sidestory was basically him blowing up people because they prevented vegetable time.
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Oh, I know. It's more that it's just a slight disappointment since he's probably one of my most hated anime stereotypes.
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That's not the lesson he has to learn, he already knows that via his 'it's alright if I'm reckless!' line. He's coming to terms with the fact that he's not the one who decides what to do and that no matter what he does he can't eliminate risk for anyone else... But he can help with it. His real issue is that he's too overbearing in his concern for his comrades. Alas, that's not the issue that VC3 addresses here. (Although I do hope it gets addressed.) Edit: Then again it is mainly about explaining his backstory and showing some form of improvement to Felix to tie into the Potential he gains.
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The next fragment is going to be Leila's, and is going to be quite engrishy because trying to figure out fancy british flair when it was translated from japanese attempt to literal attempt is confusing. Especially because one thing I noticed about this translation hack is that they are really bad at punctuation. There are either no commas, too many commas, and places where it should be a period but they are so literal that they just put a comma instead. Another thing I'm not sure of is that the hack keeps mentioning the Regular Army, which I've been omitting as just army. Was Regular Army a term used in VC1 or something?
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Tae posted:Especially because one thing I noticed about this translation hack is that they are really bad at punctuation. There are either no commas, too many commas, and places where it should be a period but they are so literal that they just put a comma instead. 
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   Great. Just another day as the military's bullet sponge. It's not like we have a choice. Disobeying will get us sent to the firing squad. If we work hard enough, one day we'll be able to transfer out of here. Amy, you're absolutely right. We should optimistically plan ahead instead of wallowing in the pits of despair. However, I understand your displeasure. This kind of assignment brings shame to this squad across the board.  What kind of world would pick a pudgy knight over a slim one?! You're just a cheap imposter! Let me teach you the real path to a knight! *Slaps Alfons* Ah! This feeling...it's as if something has awakened within me! If you're finally awake, go wash your face and come return for a second helping! Exposing such a terrible expression ruins a beautiful face, madam...*Leila slaps him again* Ah! Knights should be quiet and obey the oath they've sworn to their queen! Now move! But if my mouth is closed, how would I make an oath? *Gets slapped again* Ah! I have ears, you know. *Thinks* Such ferocity. Is he going to be okay? Something tells me he's enjoying this. Indeed, it seems as if Leila has been destined to be a queen. That's right! There's no man in the world I can't whip into shape! And where did you master such a technique? "Where" isn't the question, but who. In order to teach a certain man, I had to learn to become who I am today. He was a man who sorely lacked eduction. You whipped your own brother?! Do not misunderstand, it was not excessive. In fact, you might say he was very receptive to my education. From another point of view, you might say I was the one being educated as well.... Uh huh. Aren't you just the...closest siblings. That's certainly is...one way to express a bond.  Oh, it's Leila again. Don't make eye contact with her! She's stalking her prey like a falcon right now. Oho, Leila, why have you gracefully arrived here? Such a loose mouth, it's time to teach a lesson today! Here we go again.... You haven't learned anything, Alfons! *Slaps him* She's starting strong already.... Relax your face! Relax it! Now come over here and build up your courage! Ah ha ha...Such a beautiful woman to lift my spirits. I am honored! You know, this might be just me, but I think he's got a screw loose. Better him to take it all than us, I guess. The wrath of the devil sergeant is a scary thing. At least it's a pretty woman that takes that title.*Time passed*  Have you awoken yet? My head's all woozy. What happened? You passed out after the 10th hit. *thinks* 10th? I can barely remember past the 7th. It was a loving, sweet "kiss" you gave me. I see your memory is quite poor to still make terrible jokes. Well, since you asked, the servant shall see more of my "kisses." My apologies, I should treasure just the morning "kiss" then. That kind of style is hard to develop. Where did you learn it? Learn? It is my birthright. It is because I am a Gallian at the apex of the world. I see. And how did such a divine being join the Nameless? I was just educating a stubborn man. And who was this?  You whipped a major?! He was truly a worhtless man. The first words out of his mouth was "Orders from a superior are absolute!" He's always threatening his subordinates. Once, he ordered a courageous girl to head to his tent during the night. That's when I gave him a lashing he deserved! The other details are muddy in my memories, but I do recall him turning pale every time he saw me after that night. And so here I came to be. Im...Impressive. A life where nothing needs to be flattered but yourself must be a wonderful feeling.I have no idea what's going on. Leila sketch 
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