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To me, what's going on in his writing is something which I feel goes beyond and is more complicated than simply "being an rear end in a top hat." I think that this is what grates on me. If you look at what he's writing about, and how he writes, I sense that he writes from a position of disillusionment, misanthropy, and self-loathing. CML is a neurotic writer, a writer who can be frustrating to read, a writer who challenges one's patience, but at the very least writes with an attempt to make something memorable, which is something I personally value.
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Angry Grimace posted:How is he supposed to know what that troll is if he wasn't here when the original post got quoted, though? The fact that the posts he's quoting to reply to often have nothing in common with what he actually posts?
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May 31, 2015 18:31
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Angry Grimace posted:How is he supposed to know what that troll is if he wasn't here when the original post got quoted, though? If he can't be bothered to read the entire thread in order to understand the context of the current conversation, that's on him buddy!
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May 31, 2015 18:32
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You guys need to chill the gently caress out. I missed the fact he was quoting some other idiot, too.
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May 31, 2015 18:33
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CountFosco posted:People talk all the time about how he is a "bad writer" but I never see people making a case for him actually being a bad writer (i.e. writes poorly) and all I can assume is people just don't like his content and opinions. Yeah, occasionally he misses in his writing but generally he misses because he's trying to do something different, the part in his scg portland tournament report where he makes the tinder pun being a notable standout. I'll take writing that tries to do something different and fails sometimes over the massive amount of sameness in style that we get with so many MTG articles.
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May 31, 2015 18:37
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CountFosco posted:To me, what's going on in his writing is something which I feel goes beyond and is more complicated than simply "being an rear end in a top hat." I think that this is what grates on me. If you look at what he's writing about, and how he writes, I sense that he writes from a position of disillusionment, misanthropy, and self-loathing. CML is a neurotic writer, a writer who can be frustrating to read, a writer who challenges one's patience, but at the very least writes with an attempt to make something memorable, which is something I personally value. His writing is honestly not bad. I don't know why people can't separate that from him being an insufferable douchebag. Although as someone who totally hasn't tripped a bunch of times because that's illegal, he strikes me as the type of person who drinks one beer at a party and then goes around telling everyone how wasted he is and acting like what he thinks a drunk person acts like. He may have been "buzzed" but he definitely wasn't tripping balls and winning high level competitive games of Magic.
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May 31, 2015 18:42
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It's not that it's bad, it's not that he's an "rear end in a top hat" or a "troll," it's that it's extremely obvious and boring. edit: It's extremely inauthentic and I wasn't even remotely surprised when he dropped a reference to the gonzo journalist. rabidsquid fucked around with this message at 18:51 on May 31, 2015 |
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May 31, 2015 18:48
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Here's an rear end in a top hat troll for you: bring back search and shuffle effects, WotC 
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May 31, 2015 18:53
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Veyrall posted:I like his writing, and I like it even more when people tell me I shouldn't. Do you like the fact that he simultaneously despises Magic and is obviously the greatest at it? That when he fails at the Pro Tour, reasons that it wasn't his fault, everything and everyone elses fault. When he succeeds at a SCG Open well it is just because he is so much better than everyone else, in fact he did it with one hand tied behind his back! (shrooms) He is the worst kind of person because he wants to make the average Magic player feel bad about themselves while also being dismissive of anyone better than him. He's an rear end in a top hat.
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May 31, 2015 18:58
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jassi007 posted:Do you like the fact that he simultaneously despises Magic and is obviously the greatest at it? That when he fails at the Pro Tour, reasons that it wasn't his fault, everything and everyone elses fault. When he succeeds at a SCG Open well it is just because he is so much better than everyone else, in fact he did it with one hand tied behind his back! (shrooms) He is the worst kind of person because he wants to make the average Magic player feel bad about themselves while also being dismissive of anyone better than him. He's an rear end in a top hat. It makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't fit the carefully manufactured narrative that magic is cool, being good at magic is better, and if you work really hard you can be a respected magic pro with its awesome rewards being the 'best'. That thinking is promoted by wotc and nearly everyone else who produces magic content to justify the ridiculous amounts of money and energy people put in to the game. People get so in to magic it defines part of their character (I'm sure you see this in lots of fandoms as well). Then, they feel personally insulted when he criticizes magic generally and call him an rear end in a top hat. In person he's an affable, hilarious, well spoken guy who is a blast to hang out with. Anyways we're in Vegas for the rest of the day but probably not going back to the convention centre if anyone wants to meet up.
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May 31, 2015 19:11
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I think that carefully constructed narrative is a very good and descriptive phrase that applies to this situation, yes.
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May 31, 2015 19:14
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Lol real post or not fuzzy mammal's post gets it. It reminds me of a similar socioeconomic thinking. and people get really mad when you say of course ~pros~ finish well a lot because the feedback loop of byes, cheating, and judge bullying gets them there and gets them past the random chance this game offers.
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May 31, 2015 19:17
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LSV's highway patrol look is just making me laugh.
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May 31, 2015 19:28
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jassi007 posted:Do you like the fact that he simultaneously despises Magic and is obviously the greatest at it? That when he fails at the Pro Tour, reasons that it wasn't his fault, everything and everyone elses fault. When he succeeds at a SCG Open well it is just because he is so much better than everyone else, in fact he did it with one hand tied behind his back! (shrooms) He is the worst kind of person because he wants to make the average Magic player feel bad about themselves while also being dismissive of anyone better than him. He's an rear end in a top hat. None of this has anything to do with his writing though.
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May 31, 2015 19:33
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Chill la Chill posted:Lol real post or not fuzzy mammal's post gets it. It reminds me of a similar socioeconomic thinking. and people get really mad when you say of course ~pros~ finish well a lot because the feedback loop of byes, cheating, and judge bullying gets them there and gets them past the random chance this game offers. Someone at GP NJ claimed that "loving pro players" had manufactured the parking situation so people had to park illegally and were getting towed
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May 31, 2015 19:35
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Angry Grimace posted:How is he supposed to know what that troll is if he wasn't here when the original post got quoted, though? I just assume anything longer than a paragraph is some MTGS quote and skip over it.
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May 31, 2015 19:35
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mr. mephistopheles posted:None of this has anything to do with his writing though. It's a problem with his writing in that he's communicating bad ideas in lovely ways. Or are you deflecting criticism with a lovely strict definition?
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May 31, 2015 19:37
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AgentSythe posted:Someone at GP NJ claimed that "loving pro players" had manufactured the parking situation so people had to park illegally and were getting towed I like to tilt my opponents by having their car towed
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May 31, 2015 19:40
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This weird sushi thing where they keep focusing on the one white guy  This is basically what I assume Japanese TV is like all the time.
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May 31, 2015 19:43
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:It's a problem with his writing in that he's communicating bad ideas in lovely ways. Or are you deflecting criticism with a lovely strict definition? In addition to the issues with the content, AgentSythe kindly pointed out what is wrong with his writing as well. Well aside from is an rear end in a top hat, that isn't a flaw with his technical writing, just his character. AgentSythe posted:-Overuses cliches jassi007 fucked around with this message at 20:37 on May 31, 2015 |
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May 31, 2015 19:46
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why are you spelling my name that way
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May 31, 2015 20:12
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mr. mephistopheles posted:His writing is honestly not bad. I don't know why people can't separate that from him being an insufferable douchebag. My position is that at times his writing is bad, but that what poor writing he produces is a side-effect of trying to make something memorable and stumbling. But it's not universally bad and at least he has ambition. Watching his winner's interview for the SCG tournament, I am totally willing to believe that he was still tripping. Have you seen the top 8 group photo of that event? It's comical how easy it is to pick out the one who's tripping.
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May 31, 2015 20:26
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CountFosco posted:Watching his winner's interview for the SCG tournament, I am totally willing to believe that he was still tripping. Have you seen the top 8 group photo of that event? It's comical how easy it is to pick out the one who's tripping. I mean he definitely comes off as a caricature of what people think a person tripping balls acts like, which is what makes me think he actually wasn't, like the inexperienced person who thinks they're drunk off a beer and acts like a jackass. I have no doubt that he ate some shrooms, but I think he is massively exaggerating the amount and how much they were impacting him to try to look cooler.
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May 31, 2015 20:34
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Maybe some lovely writing about magic not being a real pro sport would make sense in a world where dozens of writers and hall of famers dont regularly reflect on that fact. Kibker and LSV both say "Pro" should stand for promotional not professional. No ides why that guy feels he needs to rail against a non existent narrative by writing like an rear end in a top hat on purpose. Ciprian Maricon fucked around with this message at 21:08 on May 31, 2015 |
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May 31, 2015 21:04
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Who's still here? I'd say hi to some jabronis or play legacy.
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May 31, 2015 21:15
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I did read CML's article and it wasn't the worst thing I've ever read (I grade for sophomore level classes sometimes), I did enjoy watching the video coverage of his quarterfinal match as he tries to figure out the blocks against the avatar and the den protector. Watching him slide Sidisi around like that is much funnier with context.
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May 31, 2015 21:36
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The teen at my local shop apparently just 3-0ed the first draft at Event #2, including beating Christian Calcano. He's 11-1. Also he won a Mox Emerald in the registration lottery and is 18 years old.
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May 31, 2015 21:56
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The thing a lot of people who try to ape Hunter Thompson seem to not realize is that he wrote straight journalism stories for years before developing his trademark gonzo style and persona. CML's writing reads like someone who wants to break away from rules and traditions of writing without actually understanding them.
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May 31, 2015 22:48
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Anyone have any opinions on U/R Twin vs. Grixis Twin? Have the cards for both, but not sure which to build.
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I also feel like someone at some point told Hunter S. Thompson, "your life is interesting, you should write about that" and he said OK. CML comes across like a person who is declaring his life is interesting and trying desperately to show it. A lot of things don't feel genuine. Its guy fieri vs Anthony Bordain.
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Someone found this on IRC: https://twitter.com/BigTonyL82/status/605166614452027392/photo/1
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Jun 1, 2015 02:30
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Elyv posted:Someone found this on IRC: https://twitter.com/BigTonyL82/status/605166614452027392/photo/1 I guess that's more fuel for the supplemental product producer being poo poo - the Collector's Number means that card's from Gideon's intro deck (or the deckbuilder's toolkit).
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Jun 1, 2015 02:34
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Is the "I opened this in a MM15 pack" part plausible?
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Jun 1, 2015 02:47
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Rinkles posted:Is the "I opened this in a MM15 pack" part plausible? It happened with Rootborn Defenses before RTR came out IIRC.
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Elyv posted:It happened with Rootborn Defenses before RTR came out IIRC. It's happened multiple times, across multiple sets in the last few years. It's actually more surprising to me now when it doesn't happen
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Rinkles posted:Is the "I opened this in a MM15 pack" part plausible? We had Magister of Worth show up in Born of the Gods prerelease packs, some people speculated it was a whoops, some people claim it was promotion for Conspiracy.
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Jun 1, 2015 03:01
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Count Bleck posted:We had Magister of Worth show up in Born of the Gods prerelease packs, some people speculated it was a whoops, some people claim it was promotion for Conspiracy. It was 100% promotion for Conspiracy because unlike normal Magisters, the BNG Magister had a number printed on the back which led people on one of those Internet scavenger hunts that ended with the spoiler for Cogwork Librarian.
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Jun 1, 2015 03:15
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I don't know who CML is, somehow. I think I like it that way?
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Elyv posted:Someone found this on IRC: https://twitter.com/BigTonyL82/status/605166614452027392/photo/1 I find that that is a plausible card, yeah.
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I'd play that card in a draft if I really had to
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