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Beef Waifu posted:I mean being immortal doesn't mean you can't beat the dude, it just means he can't be killed. His ultimate lifeform info dump page mentions that he can go a year without eating or drinking and still remain active. So even though he cannot grow old and cannot die, you could maybe beat the poo poo out of him enough that he loses enough energy to keep going? So long as he doesn't eat another vampire as food... Also I would agree that tricking Kars into getting beaten would be a plenty valid tactic cause he sure falls for getting tricked often. The info dump page says he has sight to rival a space telescope, and still couldn't spot the fake Jospeh with the parachute till he was right up on it.
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Aurain posted:That always sort of bugged me in Dragon Ball. Frieza/Vegeta want to wish for immortality, but that doesn't mean that they can't be blown into tiny chunks but have their body survive that (in the sense that all of the cells and such are still alive). They'd be better off wishing to be indestructible. Frieza, at least, has a body that can withstand harsh conditions and is pretty sturdy. Trunks had to cut him into pieces and then blow him up to kill him, though I'm assuming that's the example you mean. Vegeta, though, was pretty shortsighted. I always figured Frieza would just cut off his torso and use him as a footstool if he even did become immortal. 
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Frieza, at least, has a body that can withstand harsh conditions and is pretty sturdy. Trunks had to cut him into pieces and then blow him up to kill him, though I'm assuming that's the example you mean. In the manga they made as a prequel to the Frieza movie, when Frieza's henchmen bring him back to life, he is nothing but the chunks of flesh he was cut into. They have to bring him back in a trash can to throw into one of those regeneration chambers before he can do anything. Being immortal sucks poo poo if you don't have any ability to regenerate limbs or bring your pieces back to you. What you want to wish for is invincibility/invulnerability.
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May 31, 2015 19:42
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JDRockefeller posted:His ultimate lifeform info dump page mentions that he can go a year without eating or drinking and still remain active. So even though he cannot grow old and cannot die, you could maybe beat the poo poo out of him enough that he loses enough energy to keep going? So long as he doesn't eat another vampire as food...
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May 31, 2015 19:52
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Isn't there some weird rear end fan fiction about Kars, where he crash lands on a planet, populates it with different versions on himself. Then they all start to develop different Stands. I never actually seen it before.
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May 31, 2015 20:28
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CasinoV posted:Isn't there some weird rear end fan fiction about Kars, where he crash lands on a planet, populates it with different versions on himself. Then they all start to develop different Stands. I never actually seen it before. They convince someone else's stand to join them.
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May 31, 2015 20:37
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That piece of fanfiction has an incredible amount of incredibly silly things happen, but they are very much to do with the rest of the series so it's not really possible to go into details about it in this thread. I would go as far as to say that the 20something Cars's that somehow crashland on Mars are probably the least of weird stuff happening in that thing.
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May 31, 2015 20:41
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Speaking of dickishness, I love how Dio gives this whole impassioned speech to Polnareff about how serving him will give him the peace of mind he wants. Even the most honorable villains tend to keep a clause in their contract about betrayals.
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May 31, 2015 20:46
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JDRockefeller posted:His ultimate lifeform info dump page mentions that he can go a year without eating or drinking and still remain active. So even though he cannot grow old and cannot die, you could maybe beat the poo poo out of him enough that he loses enough energy to keep going? So long as he doesn't eat another vampire as food... That's assuming you can keep him subdued long enough, which seems unlikely.
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May 31, 2015 21:05
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Pomp posted:They convince someone else's stand to join them. Only the original gets that perk. There are very specifically 36 Kars and they're all on Mars. Jorge Joestar is amazing, but don't google it at all if you want to be spoiler free.
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May 31, 2015 21:21
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Can someone link this fanfic? I'm asking outta curiosity,of course.
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May 31, 2015 21:22
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Its an official Jojo light novel that hasn't been translated to English and has spoilers for like every part. (The whole story is completely ridiculous so you could argue that people wouldnt know where the Jojo ends and the weird poo poo begins though)
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As Cabinet says, it'll spoil everything in the future if you look it up. If you must, it's called Jorge Joestar. Googling it generally comes up with the wiki page, which I think covers all of the important bits. It genuinely makes regular JoJo seem like JoJo's tame and rational adventure.
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Alright,thanks for the clarification!
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Cabinet posted:Its an official Jojo light novel that hasn't been translated to English and has spoilers for like every part. (The whole story is completely ridiculous so you could argue that people wouldnt know where the Jojo ends and the weird poo poo begins though) "Official" only in the sense that it got the OK to be published, Araki had nothing to do with writing it and it's definitely not canon.
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YF-23 posted:"Official" only in the sense that it got the OK to be published, Araki had nothing to do with writing it and it's definitely not canon. Oh yeah, of course. I just meant that it wasn't some fanfiction dot net thing and was more like... official fanfiction? I guess? My point is that it's not the work of some teen on the internet.
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Aurain posted:Santana is Santana, Esidesi is useless, Wamuu fights too honourably and Dio would exploit that, Kars is crafty too but what happens when a man who thinks SEX = USELESS meets the sexiest man of all time? Something has to give. Esidesi would wreck Dio. Dio got beat by JONATHAN outsmarting him. Do you really think he wouldn't get tricked by the dude who almost outsmarted Joseph? Plus, the fire veins thing completely nulls Dio's vampire power- he's already shown he can't even out-freeze a sword being heated by a fire, there's no way he could beat blood that Esidesi was claiming was something absurd like 400 degrees. Dio would probably beat Santana, would definitely beat Wamuu via cheap tricks, but Esidesi would destroy him unless Dio had some ridiculous advantage and Ultimate Life Form Kars would just ripple him.
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May 31, 2015 23:23
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DIO doesn't really have any way to deal with Santana or Wham other than somehow getting them in sunlight while he stays safe. It's not like he can do the ripple either.
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May 31, 2015 23:33
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Dio got beat by JONATHAN outsmarting him. Well it's not like Jonathan is dumb.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Well it's not like Jonathan is dumb. Jonathan is not dumb, but he is not someone who fights with guile and he's very straightforward.
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Jonathan is not dumb, but he is not someone who fights with guile and he's very straightforward. Yeah, and Dio is the kind of guy who uses Bison.
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Jonathan is not dumb, but he is not someone who fights with guile and he's very straightforward. Waffleman_ posted:Yeah, and Dio is the kind of guy who uses Bison. 
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Dio would 100% pick a top 3, then get angry and call other characters cheap.
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Pomp posted:Dio would 100% pick a top 3, then get angry and call other characters cheap. DioSydePhil
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Waffleman_ posted:DioSydePhil That's so accurate it's almost terrifying.
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Waffleman_ posted:DioSydePhil LowTierDio
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YF-23 posted:DIO doesn't really have any way to deal with Santana or Wham other than somehow getting them in sunlight while he stays safe. It's not like he can do the ripple either. He could always use his totally invisible to the pillar men stand to beat the poo poo out of them completely unopposed.
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part 1 dio would lose, no question part 3 dio would have no issue dealing with any of them. ultimate lifeform kars might be an issue, but normal kars wouldn't stand a chance.
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It is fry, DIO.
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MUSTARD MUSTARD MUSTARD
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GOOD FRIES, JOJO
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Superstring posted:LowTierDio I thought the other guy was the vampire Arbitrary Number fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Jun 1, 2015 |
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Kanos posted:He could always use his totally invisible to the pillar men stand to beat the poo poo out of them completely unopposed. Yeah but it's not like he could do much more. He could run from them, he could stay safe from them, but he has just about literally no means of actually damaging them.
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Kanos posted:He could always use his totally invisible to the pillar men stand to beat the poo poo out of them completely unopposed. Now here's the real question: Can a ship monkey fight a pillar man?
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YF-23 posted:Yeah but it's not like he could do much more. He could run from them, he could stay safe from them, but he has just about literally no means of actually damaging them. What about his laser eyes that have been conveniently forgotten?
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Nessus posted:I imagine Kars and Wham would handily sacrifice Esidesi to try and figure out Dio's mystery power. Even if they couldn't see Stands I imagine they'd figure something out. Just from the brief interaction Kakyoin had (even though he can see Za Warudo) he deduced 2 pretty solid nuggets of info fairly quickly.
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RatHat posted:What about his laser eyes that have been conveniently forgotten? What about them? He could cut a pillar man in a hundred pieces but he'd still put himself together afterwards. The only weapon against the pillar men is the sun and the ripple (and maybe volcanoes), and DIO is just as vulnerable to those as the pillar men are, if not more.
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YF-23 posted:Yeah but it's not like he could do much more. He could run from them, he could stay safe from them, but he has just about literally no means of actually damaging them. He has Jonathan's body, though. I don't think it's been touched on in the anime (I assume if/when DIO and Joseph have a confrontation, it'll come up) but he could very well have ripple abilities as a result.
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YF-23 posted:What about them? He could cut a pillar man in a hundred pieces but he'd still put himself together afterwards. The only weapon against the pillar men is the sun and the ripple (and maybe volcanoes), and DIO is just as vulnerable to those as the pillar men are, if not more. NOPE Serperoth fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Jun 1, 2015 |
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