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Hmmm a unitless graph of questionable accuracy? I guess you have taken Econ 101 after all.
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Good illustration of one key point: what somone considers a living wage to be and what actually works in the existing economy are completely seperate things.
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Jun 1, 2015 23:00
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I'm the natural rights granted by the constitution
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Jun 1, 2015 23:01
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asdf32 posted:You didn't thoughfully do anything. You're still confusing the statement "heat melts ice" with a dismissal of other factors. The statement is an oversimplification, in both cases.
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Your diagram is really pretty, but there are problems. If increasing the minimum wage reduces the number of poor but hurts some poor, it would still make sense to increase the minwage. Having less poor is better than having a lot of poor who are "not as poor as they could be". We're not looking for the point at which people suffer equally, we're looking for a wage that allows the most people not to suffer. Your diagrams says "if a living wage is over here, it's too high", this means the diagram is flawed. A living wage is the maximal point. If the living wage/maximal point harms the poor (I'm not sure how, your diagram doesn't explain that) then we have a serious problem, no amount of wage will be enough to live. ElCondemn fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jun 1, 2015 |
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Jun 1, 2015 23:11
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obviously that curve should be a delta function centered on 0 minimum wage
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Jun 1, 2015 23:12
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ElCondemn posted:Your diagram is really pretty, but there are problems. I thought you guys didn't like inequality, now you're straight up advocating for it on utilitarian grounds
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Jun 1, 2015 23:16
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how do u post this poo poo unironically
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I'm looking at this but it can't possibly be real. Am I having a stroke?
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Jun 1, 2015 23:18
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down with slavery posted:how do u post this poo poo unironically It's ok because it is an informal fallacy graph.
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Jun 1, 2015 23:18
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couldnt even work up the effort to open excel and make a real graph, just a mspaint of "whatiwanttobelieve.png"
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Jun 1, 2015 23:19
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Geriatric Pirate posted:I thought you guys didn't like inequality, now you're straight up advocating for it on utilitarian grounds Are you an austrian school believer?
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Jun 1, 2015 23:20
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Way to post a graph boldly rejecting the need for data, Mr. Laffer.
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Jun 1, 2015 23:20
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Geriatric Pirate posted:I thought you guys didn't like inequality, now you're straight up advocating for it on utilitarian grounds I'm not the one pleading for the sake of the poor, I just want everyone who works to be able to afford to feed, clothe and house themselves and their family. If we want to discuss the best way to ensure nobody is hungry or homeless, well that's a matter of welfare which I'd be happy to talk about in a thread discussing welfare.
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Jun 1, 2015 23:20
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down with slavery posted:how do u post this poo poo unironically What's your problem with it specifically?
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asdf32 posted:What's your problem with it specifically? Ahahahaha of course you would defend something so mindboggling stupid.
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Jun 1, 2015 23:21
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asdf32 posted:What's your problem with it specifically? For starters the diagram doesn't tell us anything, it's just a drawing. Graphs are a way to represent data, there is no data being represented here. We have no idea what the units are or how to calculate them.
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asdf32 posted:What's your problem with it specifically? 
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Jun 1, 2015 23:24
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ElCondemn posted:For starters the diagram doesn't tell us anything, it's just a drawing. Graphs are a way to represent data, there is no data being represented here. Which is why it's telling that there is a strong reaction too it. I'll remind people at this pooint that they got upset when Jefferson earlier claimed they didn't think there was an upper limit to min wage benefits. This graph is that in visual form.
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Jun 1, 2015 23:26
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Are you an austrian school believer? austrian economics is just as insane as the MMT and marxist stuff you like
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Jun 1, 2015 23:26
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Geriatric Pirate posted:I thought you guys didn't like inequality, now you're straight up advocating for it on utilitarian grounds "Everyone's dead now, so it's equal, that's what you wanted, right?"
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Jun 1, 2015 23:28
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strangest loss.jpg i've ever seen
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Jun 1, 2015 23:28
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your half an hour of posting per day ended earlier today when you posted in this thread for 2 hours
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Jun 1, 2015 23:28
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Geriatric Pirate posted:your half an hour of posting per day ended earlier today when you posted in this thread for 2 hours why does it make you so mad that people make posts on an internet forum
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Jun 1, 2015 23:30
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Didn't I use the phrase "intelectual child" earlier in this thread? I'm being reminded of that now.
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Jun 1, 2015 23:31
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Popular Thug Drink posted:why does it make you so mad that people make posts on an internet forum why does it make you so mad that white women report rapes to the police? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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^^^^^ when did you stop beating your wife?asdf32 posted:Didn't I use the phrase "intelectual child" earlier in this thread? I'm being reminded of that now. Literally just as valid as the chart it's mocking, dude
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Jun 1, 2015 23:34
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Geriatric Pirate posted:why does it make you so mad that white women report rapes to the police? i support any individual who reports sex crimes to the police really though why are you so hung up on people discussing things on a discussion forum, it's like a strange thing to gnash your teeth over
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Jun 1, 2015 23:34
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i dunno, it's been so long since i've been a bad poster that i just can't understand your motivations or thought process anymore
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i support any individual who reports sex crimes to the police the mind of a marsh dane is a strange thing indeed
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Jun 1, 2015 23:35
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Effectronica posted:the mind of a marsh dane is a strange thing indeed is being a finn so terrible that you actually would prefer to be in section 8 housing in camden
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Jun 1, 2015 23:35
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i support any individual who reports sex crimes to the police coming from teh guy who decided to bring up false rape accusations as an issue that wasnt getting enough attention in the minimum wage thread
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Popular Thug Drink posted:is being a finn so terrible that you actually would prefer to be in section 8 housing in camden finland has one of the highest rates of suicide and alcoholism in the developed world, so signs point to yes
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Jun 1, 2015 23:36
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Effectronica posted:I know it takes you ten minutes to write a sentence, but I spend probably half an hour a day posting, maybe an hour if I'm closely following a thread.
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Jun 1, 2015 23:37
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Geriatric Pirate posted:coming from teh guy who decided to bring up false rape accusations as an issue that wasnt getting enough attention in the minimum wage thread you just brought it up?
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Effectronica posted:finland has one of the highest rates of suicide and alcoholism in the developed world, so signs point to yes the cruel and horriffic choice of not knowing if you're scandinavian or russian
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ElCondemn posted:you just brought it up? geriatric pirate gets actually mad irl if you post frequently
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Popular Thug Drink posted:the cruel and horriffic choice of not knowing if you're scandinavian or russian i know for sure that it was a finn, though not if it was geriatric pirate specifically, who wrote a bunch of posts about how somali refugees terrified him and they were all out for his wallet and anal virginity.
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asdf32 posted:Which is why it's telling that there is a strong reaction too it. The drawing is just funny, no data is being represented, the curve is completely arbitrary, and each point on the graph is vague and not well defined. I think it's more likely that MSpaint graphs are funny, rather than people being angry that they got schooled.
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