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Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak
Should we lock this thread and try again?

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birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

I can't believe someone got paid to make that.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

CrazyTolradi posted:

Sorry, a broke student has better than buy avatars for others.

You do realise that Autism Spectrum Disorder is a legitimate disorder under DSM 5 and making fun of autists/autism sufferers is basically like laughing at someone with schizophrenia or bi-polar? You realise that's a pretty lovely thing for someone who normally loves to preach from the moral high ground?

Yes, no and no.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

Only 2 sleeps to go till National Andrew Bolt is a Dickhead Day!

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Everything is funny. All conditions and circumstances and human suffering is greatly amusing. I'm laughing at us torturing refugees right now.

Nothing is funny. No words can be said, nothing can be mocked or made light of. I weep for the death of the brave political force for good, The Australian Democrats.

*Proudly settles "Biggest Shitposter" crown back onto his head.*

I've missed you old friend. You've known many others but you've return to your rightful ho-

*Mournfully removes crown again*

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

ScreamingLlama posted:

if you listen to human sound triggers you're a creepy autistic mouth-breather and should be tormented and mocked mercilessly without respite for the rest of your days.

:agreed:

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Splode posted:

Should we lock this thread and try again?

Yes and no, respectively.

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

Pickled Tink posted:

Never fear good Auspollers! First Dog is here to take away your existing worries and replace them with new ones!



voted 5 for "convicted racial vilifier andrew bolt"

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

Zetsubou-san posted:

voted 5 for "convicted racial vilifier andrew bolt"

Quoting fdotm should be punishable by death imo.

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

EvilElmo posted:

This I always find weird. Greens hate binding votes unless they benefit then they love them.

Greens MPs, in order to vote against either a decision of the Party Room or direction from the National Conference, must inform the party ahead of time and write a detailed submission as to why to both the National Council and their relevant state council. Otherwise, decisions are considered binding. Greens MPs aren't just allowed to decide they don't like a policy and split the bloc vote. Also, Greens NSW MPs (the Greens NSW being a third of the party) have no capacity for a conscience vote whatsoever, and are bound to decisions of the NSW SDC.

Not sure where you get the idea the Greens hate binding votes, unless you mean it's when Labor decide to bind on torturing refugees, in which case our problem is kind of more with the whole horrifying torture thing than the binding per se. The critique of not binding in this case is an indication of where the priorities of the Labor Party sit - to not bind on same-sex marriage when the party has considered it important enough to bind on setting up concentration camps for browns shows which one they consider more important to push through, or at least which one doesn't offend Joe De Bruyn.

Now I personally think any Labor politician who doesn't cross the floor on refugee policy (so, all of them) is a loving coward. That's different from critiquing the concept of caucus solidarity, although one could certainly argue that binding to the decisions of a room of coddled political-class apparatchiks is different from binding to the decisions of your actual rank-and-file members. I'm really curious how many of the 70% of Australians who support marriage equality are members of the Labor Party who would support a binding vote.

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin
Basically at this point your two choices are either that the Labor Party is blatantly undemocratic, or that a disproportionate number of the 30% of Australians who are total shitheads about marriage equality are scuttling denizens of the party.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Quantum Mechanic posted:

Basically at this point your two choices are either that the Labor Party is blatantly undemocratic, or that a disproportionate number of the 30% of Australians who are total shitheads about marriage equality are scuttling denizens of the party.

What if, both australians AND the labor party are poo poo.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Cross the floor? Then you won't get that cushy gig as acting deputy chairman on the senate committee for gauge standardisation on Heard Island.

[EDIT: I kind of wish the ALP were only poo poo on a few issues like asylum seekers and same sex marriage, but they're just awful from top to bottom.]

open24hours fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Jun 2, 2015

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Is this still the water sports thread?

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
i like-a the asmr, is nice. hi-five! - borat, borat the movie

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

kingcom posted:

What if, both australians AND the labor party are poo poo.

Australians are poo poo in a myriad number of ways but on all polling they're actually not about marriage equality - it hovers around 70% support.

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

Think you've got what it takes?
We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.
See also: euthanasia, also wildly popular.

thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp
Why is First Dog so bad? Was it always this bad?

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Murodese posted:

See also: euthanasia, also wildly popular.

It becomes even more popular if you make it involuntary euthanasia.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

What if Australians are poo poo precisely because Labor (and other parties) are poo poo, and their political beliefs are a product of the political system? Nah, it's gotta be some genetic defect.

SadisTech
Jun 26, 2013

Clem.

Murodese posted:

See also: autoeuthanasia, also wildly popular recommended for Australians.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

thehomemaster posted:

Why is First Dog so bad? Was it always this bad?

Yes

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip

I will not believe that this is a real first dog

i got banned
Sep 24, 2010

lol abbottwon
I have a trans friend who has been denied help by st vinnies and the salvation army after being evicted out of her accommodation due to drug problems with her room mate

how cool is Australia

i drove her to an emergency place that would house her for one night and lent her $70 bucks but I cant let her stay in my room due to my room mates being uncool with that.

Any advice goons?

She was literally being spat on by people in the street in the city because she looked weird in the pouring rain the other night and I was the only person that was able to help her because all her other "friends" are drug addicted fucks that use people for their own gain and are gently caress heads.

But there's only so much I can do, I'm poor myself.

So basically a human being has been denied help because she doesn't identify as male, by "christian" institutions run to help people. This country is a joke.

And you know the worst part? You can't take this to media institutions because most of them would be OK with it. I actually feel kind of helpless, I can't even imagine how she is feeling right now :(

i got banned fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jun 2, 2015

Redwolf
Aug 9, 2011

I do not approve of your posting good sir! Not at all!
Which state are you in i got banned?

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
*leans in close to the microphone, crinkles some paper and whispers breathily*

"Post more First Dog"

i got banned
Sep 24, 2010

lol abbottwon
I'm in Victoria

I heard about poo poo like this happening with the salvation army but I never really believed it for some reason.

Burn every loving church to the ground.

i got banned fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jun 2, 2015

UrbanLabyrinth
Jan 28, 2009

When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence


College Slice

i got banned posted:

I'm in Victoria

I heard about poo poo like this happening with the salvation army but I never really believed it for some reason.

Burn every loving church to the ground.

If she happens to be a uni student, most unis do have emergency accommodation available through their student wellbeing department or equivalent.

Redwolf
Aug 9, 2011

I do not approve of your posting good sir! Not at all!

i got banned posted:

I'm in Victoria

I heard about poo poo like this happening with the salvation army but I never really believed it for some reason.

Burn every loving church to the ground.

I sent you a pm

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

Quantum Mechanic posted:

Greens MPs, binding votes etc

Has anyone else heard people talking about how Di Natale is going to take the Greens in a new direction? Like he gets to makes policy choices. I have heard "serious" political commentators talk about this. One of the guys at work thinks he is going to "do a Meg Lees" and negotiate with the Government, dooming them forever. I don't need need to add that he is from the Labor left.

Edit: My point is more that people who get paid to write about politics seem to not understand how the third major party actually works. I am just as shocked about the fact that FDOTM gets paid to draw "cartoons".

Freudian Slip fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Jun 2, 2015

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

instead of giving Uber what it needs to be compliant, Jackie Trad in the QLD government is telling Uber to just stop operating.


http://blogs.abc.net.au/queensland/2015/05/is-uber-a-ridesharing-company-or-a-taxi-service.html

http://freedomwatch.ipa.org.au/2015/06/government-tells-uber-to-leave-queensland/

quote:

The Queensland government has shown that it’s more interested in protecting vested interests than creating jobs or providing services to the Queensland public.

In a segment on 612 ABC Brisbane, Uber’s head of policy, Brad Kitschke, revealed that Queensland’s Deputy Premier, Jackie Trad, had instructed Uber to close its business and leave Queensland. Asked for the deputy premier’s exact words, Kitschke replied:

The Minister said that if we wanted to have a discussion with her—about the future and about reform—that the best thing we could do to create good will, was to shut our business.

This is an extraordinary demand from a senior government minister who, as minister for transport, ought to be encouraging new transport alternatives.

But attempting to chase Uber out of Queensland won’t just reduce residents’ transportation options. It will also cost jobs.

Uber claims to have already created 2,000 new jobs in Brisbane and the Gold Coast. The company believes it can create an addition 4,000 jobs this year, if the government is willing to create an appropriate regulatory solution.

Based on the deputy premier’s comments, this is not something of interest to the Queensland government.

This is extraordinary. A senior member of government—form a party which claims to represent working people—is actively attempting to prevent new jobs being created.

Jackie Trad attempted to justify her position earlier in the radio segment. Trad repeated the same erroneous safety concerns promoted by the taxi industry—which I have previously written about here onFreedomWatch, and in the Herald Sun.

There was one credible safety concern raised by the deputy premier. This was the fact that, whilst Uber drivers are subject to police checks when they become accredited by the Department of Transport and Main Roads, they are not subject to the daily criminal history checks that are applied to taxi drivers.

This potentially means that an Uber driver could be convicted of a crime after they are already an Uber driver, and Uber wouldn’t know.

But this merely reveals the government’s complete hypocrisy. As Uber’s Brad Kitschke made clear:

We’ve been asking for access to the database that is used to ensure those daily checks, for over a year now. And the department has refused to give us access. They’ve given access to other booking apps, like GoCatch, but they refuse to give access to Uber.

Kitschke continued:

If the deputy premier was seriously concerned about public safety, the Deputy Premier could solve this in 20 minutes, by giving us access to that database that we’ve been asking for, for 12 months.

Unfortunately, it appears that Annastacia Palaszczuk’s government is more interested in protecting the existing taxi cartel, and reaping the revenue from the $525,000 taxi license fees, than allowing the growth of innovative new services that create jobs and serve the needs of Queensland residents.

Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please
Can someone explain ASMR? I have a feeling it's something I don't want in my search history.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:

Nibbles! posted:

Can someone explain ASMR? I have a feeling it's something I don't want in my search history.

Wikipedia is relatively safe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_sensory_meridian_response

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Nibbles! posted:

Can someone explain ASMR? I have a feeling it's something I don't want in my search history.

you know how it feels really good when some sexy lady is whispering in your ear?? or maybe when you're getting a nice scalp massage?

well, that. but on youtube with people basically doing pretend girlfriend intimacy simulators where they whisper 'how was your day' or act like you're at a library and it's nOT PORN MOM IT'S A REAL BIOLOGICAL THING

Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please
So it's not some therapy it just :feelsgood: ?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

quote:

Tony Abbott has read the riot act to his colleagues, warning there would be personal consequences for anyone caught leaking, according to leaks from Tuesday's party room meeting.

lol

quote:

He said it was Cabinet's "come to Jesus moment".

LOL

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.
Is there an opposite to this condition, where recorded whispering (particularly that breathy fake crap in ads) elicits a negative response? Cause I have that.

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe

i got banned posted:

I have a trans friend who has been denied help by st vinnies and the salvation army after being evicted out of her accommodation due to drug problems with her room mate
Can I get some more info regarding the Vinnies rejection? I'm in NSW but I will be in at the shop tomorrow and I'll be able to talk to a member of the local conference about it and see if it is policy or if it was just some local bigot who needs a damned good kicking.




Australian MPs allowed to see top-secret trade deal text but can't reveal contents for four years

quote:

Australian politicians have been told they can view the current confidential negotiating text for the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement, but only if they agree not to divulge anything they see for four years, despite expectations the deal could be finalised within months.

As 10 years of highly secret negotiations over the 12-nation trade and investment pact draw to a close and the US Congress debates whether to grant president Barack Obama fast-track authority, MPs and senators were briefed on the deal Monday night by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade assistant secretary Elizabeth Ward and other officials.

The MPs were told that, despite the negotiations being “in the final stages” and “at the end game”, key provisions had not been agreed – including intellectual property clauses of deep concern to the Australian government and controversial legal avenues for corporations to take action against governments – so-called investor state dispute settlements (ISDS). They were also told the ISDS process itself was still being negotiated, including provisions on transparency.

They were told they could view the current TPP negotiating text on Tuesday “subject to certain confidentiality requirements” and were shown a document they would be required to sign before any viewing.

The document listed requirements which it said were “consistent with the undertaking by Australia and other negotiating partners to treat negotiating texts and other documents exchanged in the course of negotiations as confidential government information in order to facilitate candid and productive negotiations”.

The requirements listed were as follows:

“I will not divulge any of the text or information obtained in the briefing to any party, I will not copy, transcribe or remove the negotiating text” and “I further acknowledge that the negotiating text is confidential and sensitive; disclosure of the negotiating text may affect adversely TPP negotiations and Australia’s relations with other TPP partners.”

It concluded: “I therefore agree that these confidentiality requirements shall apply for four years after entry into force of the TPP, or if no agreement enters into force, for four years after the last round of negotiations.”

Among those attending the briefing were Coalition backbenchers Bruce Scott and George Christensen, Labor backbenchers Stephen Jones, Andrew Giles, Melissa Parke and Terri Butler and independent senator Nick Xenophon.

The four-year confidentiality provision mirrors the secrecy provisions printed on the investment chapter of the TPP, which was published by Wikileaks in March.

That document said it could be declassified “four years from entry into force of the TPP agreement or, if no agreement enters into force, four years from the close of the negotiations” and said it “must be protected from unauthorized disclosure ... and must be stored in a locked or secured building, room, or container”.

When Christensen queried the four-year timeframe at the meeting he was told it was needed because the final version of the document might be different from the current version, and that it was similar to the undertakings required of members of the US Congress who wanted to view the text.

Among the most controversial provisions of the TPP is the proposed investor state dispute settlement mechanism, which could allow multinational corporations to challenge Australian government policies in international arbitration tribunals, for example plain-packaging laws or environmental or health regulations.

The former Labor government put a footnote into the TPP investment text saying Australia did not agree to ISDS provisions. The current government has – according to the leaked Wikileaks version – added that it is prepared to agree to ISDS if “certain conditions” are met.

Australia wants exemptions from intellectual property provisions for “any measures comprising or related to the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, Medicare Benefits Scheme, the Therapeutic Goods Administration and the Office of the Gene Technology Regulator”. The government is particularly concerned to make sure the agreement does not require Australia to extend the period that drugs remain on patent, because of the huge potential impact on the cost of Australia’s pharmaceutical benefits scheme.

Parke said she still had “extremely grave concerns about the ISDS provisions. I note that the briefing confirmed that the Philip Morris scenario could still happen under this agreement”.

The tobacco giant is using ISDS provisions in Australia’s free-trade agreement with Hong Kong to challenge plain-packaging laws that have been upheld by Australia’s high court.

Xenophon said he was also concerned about ISDS, saying “40 years ago Gough Whitlam abolished appeals to the [British] privy council in what was a watershed moment for Australian sovereignty. We now seem to be going back to the colonial era where court cases, not just appeals, will be determined overseas”.

Butler said she also “remained concerned about the ISDS provisions ... I will need a lot more information to be satisfied this is in the national interest, compared with the status quo, which is the bilateral trade agreements we already have with most of these countries”.

After the Wikileaks revelations, the trade minister, Andrew Robb, insisted “the government will not support outcomes that would increase the prices of medicines for Australians or adversely affect our health system more generally; end of story ... Nor would we accept outcomes that undermine our ability to regulate or legislate in the public interest in areas such as health”.

In recent interviews and opinion pieces, Robb has said the deal could provide huge benefits for Australian exporters – including agricultural exports – and says ISDS provisions have been included in many bilateral agreements Australia has already signed. The only time they have been used against Australia is the ongoing case being brought by Philip Morris but Australian companies have successfully used the clauses against companies in India.

He says the government has conducted more than 1000 consultations with different groups about the TPP talks.

“It’s not secretive but of course the whole text is not available because nothing’s agreed until everything’s agreed, so to be putting out bits and pieces over five years, which may or may not end up in the final document, all that’s going to do is be a source of material for those anti-trade groups to worry people and misrepresent, he told the ABC.

The TPP is being negotiated with the US, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam.

The cabinet will decide whether Australia signs any final agreement, and then text will be tabled in parliament and be considered by the Joint Standing Committee on Treaties before implementing legislation is considered by the House of Representatives and the Senate.
It's not secretive. You just aren't allowed to tell anyone what's in the agreement until four years after it comes into play. See, perfectly fair.

Pickled Tink fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jun 2, 2015

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
just going to repeat

quote:

He said it was Cabinet's "come to Jesus moment".

quote:

He said it was Cabinet's "come to Jesus moment".

quote:

He said it was Cabinet's "come to Jesus moment".

quote:

He said it was Cabinet's "come to Jesus moment".
http://www.afr.com/news/politics/tony-abbott-reads-riot-act-to-cabinet-leakers-20150602-ghempp

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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
I wonder if the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse is going to be Cardinal Pell's come to Jesus moment.

Oh wait that already happened in Ballarat in the 70's.

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