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If RICO charges were brought against FIFA wouldn't they immediately plead guilty, at least to some lesser charges? That would preempt any difficulty working with U.S. based sponsors. Reading the wikipedia page on RICO, that seems to be the strategy used by most businesses staring down the barrel of that particular gun.
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Squalid posted:If RICO charges were brought against FIFA wouldn't they immediately plead guilty, at least to some lesser charges? That would preempt any difficulty working with U.S. based sponsors. Reading the wikipedia page on RICO, that seems to be the strategy used by most businesses staring down the barrel of that particular gun. Who are "they"? This is not just a prosecution against a company, RICO also often pierces the corporate veil and goes after individuals, and they have been doing that in this case. There are a few different versions of RICO cases, and this appears to be one of the more serious ones. RICO charges typically carry astoundingly harsh prison sentences. What usually happens is the lower and mid level guys are targeted first, and faced with the horrifying possible consequences (20, 30, life, etc) they quickly roll over and give up everything they know in exchange for a more lenient punishment and the Feds then work their way up to the top, assuming the top guys did anything wrong. They will only offer the minimum number of breaks and deals necessary to nail everyone who can be prosecuted. Northjayhawk fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jun 2, 2015 |
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Jun 2, 2015 06:38
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"They" meaning FIFA itself as an organization apart from individual persons in its leadership. That post was inspired by this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drexel_Burnham_Lambert Reading a little more I see they actually plead guilty before an indictment, and I also realized I don't understand the legal status of FIFA itself, so I'm not sure if it's analogous to a private corporation.
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Jun 2, 2015 07:20
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Xandu posted:He's so hosed Fifa claimed that Jérôme Valcke was not involved in that 10 million dollar payment, but oh woops, guess the letter ordering the Fifa to pay the money was addressed directly to him. https://twitter.com/martynziegler/status/605660641374912512 
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Jun 2, 2015 10:49
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Sepp Blatter has just his resigned as FIFA President. He'll fulfill his duties until the congress can elect a new president.
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Jun 2, 2015 17:48
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YES DIE YOU OLD MOTHERFUCKER DIE
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Jun 2, 2015 17:52
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I wonder what changed.
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Jun 2, 2015 17:52
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Xandu posted:I wonder what changed. Moved past denial into bargaining is my guess.
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Jun 2, 2015 17:54
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Xandu posted:I wonder what changed. Valcke. He knows way too much, and now that hes clearly been implicated hes going to roll on Blatter so hard.
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Jun 2, 2015 17:54
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Yeah, that makes sense. Also they're waiting four months for a new election. I wonder if he just wanted to spite Ali a little bit.
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Jun 2, 2015 17:58
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Maybe John Oliver will drink a bud light lime out of a golden nike now!
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Honestly the thing I'm most surprised about is that the resignation didn't come after he managed to sneak himself into a non-extradition country of US or Switzerland .
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Jun 2, 2015 18:00
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Xandu posted:Yeah, that makes sense. i would not be surprised if Platini is involved in this somehow. his maneuvering throughout this affair has been extremely obvious - i can easily see him running for leader at this extraordinary congress, if that's even allowed by FIFA's rules
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serious gaylord posted:Valcke. My money is on him trying to go underground in response to Valcke getting picked up. I've got even odds on him being picked up at an airport terminal or at border trying to sneak into a non-extradition country.
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Jun 2, 2015 18:06
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Xandu posted:Yeah, that makes sense. I think it's giving them time to see how many of the candidates will be arrested. A snap election would be like the end of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
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Jun 2, 2015 18:06
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No Middle Eastern slave lords may win. I hope the U.S. Compels the 3rd world slum lords to piss off and realize we're king of poo poo mountain in soccer too.
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Anyway article with a few more details. "Sepp Blatter to resign as Fifa president after 17 years in role posted:“I will organise extraordinary congress for a replacement for me as president,” said the 79-year-old Swiss. “I will not stand. I am now free from the constraints of an election. I will be in a position to focus on profound reforms. For many years we have called for reforms. But these are not sufficient.
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Jun 2, 2015 18:09
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I was unable to pass term limits, which is why I was forced to run again, and again, and again
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Xandu posted:I wonder what changed. The soccer forum suggests this news conference was called in one hell of a hurry and they weren't prepared at all, so I'd lean towards panic move on realizing that someone was rolling on him.
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Jun 2, 2015 18:24
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I will now call the game soccer for a week to honor our American friends who have made this amazing turn of events possible. Do you think Blatter intended to resign for a while and only didn't do it because it would have meant the election of prince Ali, and he is trying to maneuver a protege into the position of FIFA president?
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Xandu posted:I wonder what changed. Hmmm
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So the next move is Blatter fleeing to Russia to avoid extradition, right? If so, how will the DOJ respond?
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Patter Song posted:So the next move is Blatter fleeing to Russia to avoid extradition, right? If so, how will the DOJ respond? He's been told not to leave Switzerland, so I would assume the Swiss police have an eye on him.
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Patter Song posted:So the next move is Blatter fleeing to Russia to avoid extradition, right? If so, how will the DOJ respond? I personally hope the RICO case extends to all Russian agents of FIFA.
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Torrannor posted:I will now call the game soccer for a week to honor our American friends who have made this amazing turn of events possible. The rushed conference and the change in his demeanour make me think this wasn't planned at all. He's actually hosed.
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Peel posted:The rushed conference and the change in his demeanour make me think this wasn't planned at all. He's actually hosed. If only he could have been arrested like half way through the speech.
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Patter Song posted:So the next move is Blatter fleeing to Russia to avoid extradition, right? If so, how will the DOJ respond? While not on lockdown, the Swiss authorities clearly have a solid eye on him and making a run for it would only result in him seeing the inside of a jail cell sooner rather than, as it appears, later.
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Jun 2, 2015 18:35
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Nike bribed FIFA $10 million to secure the Brazil uniform contract, oh poo poo son
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Captain_Maclaine posted:While not on lockdown, the Swiss authorities clearly have a solid eye on him and making a run for it would only result in him seeing the inside of a jail cell sooner rather than, as it appears, later. I don't trust the Swiss, frankly. They've protected evil Iranians and Nazis in their 'social democracy'.
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Patter Song posted:So the next move is Blatter fleeing to Russia to avoid extradition, right? If so, how will the DOJ respond? Reminder the Swiss government has told him not to leave the country. Like, the loving Swiss are calling them out. The Swiss. Nonsense posted:I don't trust the Swiss, frankly. They've protected evil Iranians and Nazis in their 'social democracy'. FIFA: Too Corrupt Even for the Swiss
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Nonsense posted:I don't trust the Swiss, frankly. They've protected evil Iranians and Nazis in their 'social democracy'. While the idea of Switzerland being some sort of benign, trustworthy neutral is yes incredibly overplayed, I wouldn't worry about it in this case. Dude's about to get judicially curbstomped and no one's going to hold the door open for him to escape.
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I'm just airing my brain farts. I'm sure Switzerland is nice and all, they've just disappointed citizens of the world in the past.
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I hope whatever fucker made the decision for the women's world cup to have astroturf (I'm assuming with a nice kickback) is one of the people getting destroyed by this.
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Good riddance Blatter. So, who's gonna succeed him? Probably Prince Ali
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Good riddance Blatter. So, who's gonna succeed him? Probably Prince Ali we'll see. my money is, again, on platini angling to run but we will see.
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Radish posted:I hope whatever fucker made the decision for the women's world cup to have astroturf (I'm assuming with a nice kickback) is one of the people getting destroyed by this. Why did that happen anyway? Did someone have a friend in the astroturf business?
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Everyone in FIFA's executive positions should have already flown to Russia or some other non-extradition country by now, unless a few of them somehow were really not corrupt.
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StandardVC10 posted:Why did that happen anyway? Did someone have a friend in the astroturf business? Much the same reason city playgrounds/soccer pitchs started using recycled tires, and children developed coma inducing disorders.
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StandardVC10 posted:Why did that happen anyway? Did someone have a friend in the astroturf business? I'm not sure why anyone bothers asking "Why did FIFA do [x]?" anymore, the answer is always "because of a briefcase full of money".
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StandardVC10 posted:Why did that happen anyway? Did someone have a friend in the astroturf business? The fact that they were so committed that FIFA started threatening women involved in the suit indicates to me they got a hefty gift from someone for making it mandatory at the stadiums. Of course it's FIFA so you should just assume that anything they do is to get more money at the cost of (other) human misery.
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