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whitey delenda est posted:It's also to lay the groundwork early to excuse the US based financial institutions and companies that facilitated and were basically complicit in said bribery. Eh, as long as they filed suspicious transaction reports I'm not seeing any banking wrongdoing here.
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I'd think as a general rule of thumb that bribing your way into unfairly winning a competitive bid is always going to be illegal, somehow
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Starting on page 74 http://www.justice.gov/opa/file/450211/download I think the issue is this: quote:Co-Conspirator #2 agreed to pay and did pay CoConspirator #11 half of the money he made from the sponsorship deal, totaling in the millions of dollars, as a bribe and kickback.
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Akileese posted:Sepp Blatter has just his resigned as FIFA President. He'll fulfill his duties until the congress can elect a new president. It's happening. IT'S loving HAPPENING! I have never thought higher of the United States of America. I love you people so much.  This is what my america-themed barbeque-fest is going to look like. It will be loving awesome. Thank you, god bless.
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tsa posted:Thought he just chills in Moscow now? Or am I thinking of the other one. No I'm pretty sure Americans don't give a gently caress about soccer. Any amount of time living in America would tell you that. Those households playing soccer are basically all little kids and have been that way all throughout the 80's and beyond.
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Vladimir Putin posted:No I'm pretty sure Americans don't give a gently caress about soccer. Any amount of time living in America would tell you that. Those households playing soccer are basically all little kids and have been that way all throughout the 80's and beyond. Soccer is looked at more as a sport for girls in the US right now but that's actually changing a bit.
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Vladimir Putin posted:I'd like to add that this whole thing is possible only because of the arguable over reach of American prosecutors and the fact that nobody in America gives a gently caress about soccer. I mean why would American prosecutors be interested in taking down such a large organization wthat has virtually no power in America and that the average American doesn't even know exists? That makes it all the more delicious. As I understand it things started when one of the US based execs got busted for failing to files taxes for several years. In order to save his own rear end he offered to roll on his bosses at FIFA.
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MH Knights posted:As I understand it things started when one of the US based execs got busted for failing to files taxes for several years. In order to save his own rear end he offered to roll on his bosses at FIFA. Dumb motherfucker... Well thats how they got capone as well. Really, pay your loving taxes, even your illict income, the IRS won't do poo poo if you just loving give them the money, not giving the irs its cut is the fastest way to get hosed town in existence, and besides a good accountant could have handled that to make sure nobody would investigate.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Soccer is looked at more as a sport for girls in the US right now but that's actually changing a bit. There's not a lot of enthusiasm for playing the game, but it is slowly gaining popularity as a spectator sport. MLS used to be a struggling joke that didn't look like it was going to make it, and now they have several healthy, successful franchises. One of the most successful MLS teams with constantly sold-out matches is in Kansas City of all places. The last world cup was the first one I remember where Americans sorta gave half a poo poo.
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Northjayhawk posted:There's not a lot of enthusiasm for playing the game, but it is slowly gaining popularity as a spectator sport. MLS used to be a struggling joke that didn't look like it was going to make it, and now they have several healthy, successful franchises. One of the most successful MLS teams with constantly sold-out matches is in Kansas City of all places. The last world cup was the first one I remember where Americans sorta gave half a poo poo. The 1994 World Cup boasts the highest attendance in World Cup history.
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Someone found a nice stack of incriminating documents is the feeling I'm getting. I'm betting that they move down the ranks next.Nice piece of fish posted:It's happening. IT'S loving HAPPENING! This gif owns.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Platini's gutless. If he had any character, he'd have challenged Blatter in the last election. i don't agree blatter was looking stronger than ever before the FBI investigation. even with the fbi investigation platini couldn't mobilise all of UEFA against him. what he could do, though, was make noises about how distant he is from blatter. he's got UEFA, he's got a lot of experience and he looks confident that he's not getting dragged down by the investigation, so i reckon he's going to try to seize the organisation before anyone else can mobilise we'll see, of course, but this is my projection
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So, who knows about Russia since they were at least a logical candidate to host regardless of bribery, but Qatar in 2022 has got to be dead, right? That was a cartoonishly corrupt vote.
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Northjayhawk posted:So, who knows about Russia since they were at least a logical candidate to host regardless of bribery, but Qatar in 2022 has got to be dead, right? That was a cartoonishly corrupt vote. I don't know where it'll be held, but Europe or the US are the likely candidates.
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We don't loving want the world cup. Go hog wild europe, but remember who came in and regulated....
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I bet everyone was looking for the perfect excuse to drop Qatar and this is it. I think I read that if bidding is re-opened, Australia also wants to try again. Honestly, I think the US should probably just let the Aussies or the UK have it and prepare a bid for 2026. A situation where Qatar obviously bribes FIFA to beat the US and take the 2022 host, followed by the USA basically arresting half of FIFA and seizing the world cup host back as some sort of "spoils of war" would kinda look bad.
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V. Illych L. posted:i don't agree Are we sure Platini is clean? Isn't he the one that was supposedly given the Picasso for supporting the Russian bid or was that a false rumor? I did a quick google search and saw a few articles but not from any sources I trust. He did vote for Qatar in 2022, which doesn't look good. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/05/michel-platini-conspirators-2022-world-cup-bid-uefa
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Platini is just as dirty as Blatter. He came back from qatar with a 30 million dollar rolex and his son got a job ridiculously good job, with no relevant qualifications, at a Qatari owned company. The mans as filthy as they come.
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incoherent posted:We don't loving want the world cup. Go hog wild europe, but remember who came in and regulated.... Mount up. Vladimir Putin posted:No I'm pretty sure Americans don't give a gently caress about soccer. Any amount of time living in America would tell you that. Those households playing soccer are basically all little kids and have been that way all throughout the 80's and beyond. While we're not as indifferent/hostile to soccer as we once were, I concede this is still more true than not though it used to be even worse. Growing up my town didn't even have a team, I had to play for the next town over until high school (when I was cut during try outs and subsequently gave up on the game).
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We're getting better at appreciating soccer but truth be told a majority of americans would rather watch minor league baseball then a MLS match.
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I'm so happy for all of you non-Americans right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbU9BZYcg1Y
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People in WA certainly love their soccer, but I think that has a lot to do with the fact that until two years ago, every WA sports team not named the Sounders was bad and have been bad for decades at this point.
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Vladimir Putin posted:No I'm pretty sure Americans don't give a gently caress about soccer. Any amount of time living in America would tell you that. Those households playing soccer are basically all little kids and have been that way all throughout the 80's and beyond. Or immigrants. Though the funny thing is I don't think Euros get that we're not at all shamed by y'all wagging your fingers at us. If anything it just encourages us to hoot and holler more.
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incoherent posted:We're getting better at appreciating soccer but truth be told a majority of americans would rather watch minor league baseball then a MLS match. I've been to a minor league game and I can tell you I would rather shoot myself than watch more minor league baseball.
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Badger of Basra posted:I've been to a minor league game and I can tell you I would rather shoot myself than watch more minor league baseball. Minor League baseball owns.
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ATP_Power posted:People in WA certainly love their soccer, but I think that has a lot to do with the fact that until two years ago, every WA sports team not named the Sounders was bad and have been bad for decades at this point. Tacoma Stars owned. Preki came to my class at school.
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Badger of Basra posted:I've been to a minor league game and I can tell you I would rather shoot myself than watch more minor league baseball. I think you did MiLB wrong.
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Picked up some Bud Light Lime on the way home. I normally don't drink that vile crap but I assumed it was mandatory since Blatter didn't even last a week.
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Northjayhawk posted:Picked up some Bud Light Lime on the way home. I normally don't drink that vile crap but I assumed it was mandatory since Blatter didn't even last a week. Should have bought some
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Northjayhawk posted:Picked up some Bud Light Lime on the way home. I normally don't drink that vile crap but I assumed it was mandatory since Blatter didn't even last a week. Don't forge the condition of the bet. You must drink it out of a chalice worthy...  glug glug
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whiskey patrol posted:Are we sure Platini is clean? Isn't he the one that was supposedly given the Picasso for supporting the Russian bid or was that a false rumor? I did a quick google search and saw a few articles but not from any sources I trust. He did vote for Qatar in 2022, which doesn't look good. he is probably dirty af, but it remains a question whether he gets implicated in this poo poo, and whether whatever he gets implicated in falls under US jurisdiction (caveat: i don't know how RICO would work re: this) like, i'm not rooting for him, i'm just saying i reckon he's angling for the big chair
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Bip Roberts posted:I think you did MiLB wrong. Seriously, If you are in the stadium before the top of the fourth and you are not loving trashed, you are doing MiLB wrong. You sit in the parking lot and shot-gun beers for the first hour, then heckle whatever lucky fans get the honor of taking part in the Captain Crusty's Crustacean Toss between innings. MiLB rules.
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incoherent posted:Don't forge the condition of the bet. You must drink it out of a chalice worthy... That is clearly an improper chalice. You want something like this  alpha_destroy posted:Seriously, If you are in the stadium before the top of the fourth and you are not loving trashed, you are doing MiLB wrong. You sit in the parking lot and shot-gun beers for the first hour, then heckle whatever lucky fans get the honor of taking part in the Captain Crusty's Crustacean Toss between innings. MiLB rules. I went to a game when I was in High School because Michael Jordan was playing. It sucked and was boring as gently caress. I'm not sure lovely stadium beer would have sufficiently improved the experience.
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Gyges posted:That is clearly an improper chalice. You want something like this Gotta be American, tho.
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incoherent posted:We're getting better at appreciating soccer but truth be told a majority of americans would rather watch minor league baseball then a MLS match. I think I'd rather watch women's college basketball.
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whoops mixed up the shoe and apparel rights.
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VideoTapir posted:Gotta be American, tho. John mentioned 3 brands that he would partake of, Nike was not one.
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Gyges posted:John mentioned 3 brands that he would partake of, Nike was not one. The sponsors didn't push him out (presumably.) There were conditions for drinking that Budweiser that were not met, so stop drinking it.  Loretta Lynch is who deserves the handy.
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Xandu posted:They didn't just pay for the sponsorship, which is obviously totally normal, but that they paid an intermediary millions for arranging it. Any chance Nike is gonna get hit with FCPA for that? For those not in the know, FCPA is the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act which makes it extremely illegal to bribe foreign officials (even if the bribe is legal in that country). It's pretty much the worst thing for a company to get smacked with short of RICO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act evilweasel posted:Eh, as long as they filed suspicious transaction reports I'm not seeing any banking wrongdoing here. If FCPA applies it could get fairly nasty, although there hasn't been any real big landmark case that I know about. axeil fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jun 3, 2015 |
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