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axeil posted:Any chance Nike is gonna get hit with FCPA for that? Most of the time FCPA just ends be settled with a big fine, it's a really painful to company like Nike that has multi-billion dollar net worth.
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Yeah I think Nike is gonna be fine FCPA only really applies when companies directly bribe foreign governments. This has enough degrees of separation that Nike's inthe clear
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Xandu posted:No, I don't think anyone involved qualifies as a foreign official. The DOJ can probably make a decent argument that at least some of the intermediaries were agents for foreign officials. I find it hard to believe that none of the money ended up in a corrupt Brazilian government worker's pocket.
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Unless there is significant political pressure internally to hand-slap nike there is no way you wouldn't want to land a whale with that law. That'd be your legacy.
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Vladimir Putin posted:No I'm pretty sure Americans don't give a gently caress about soccer. Any amount of time living in America would tell you that. Those households playing soccer are basically all little kids and have been that way all throughout the 80's and beyond. Seriously, where in the hell do you get this? Most of the teams are profitable, they're adding a team or two per year, and we have stadiums whose average attendance puts the majority of Europe to shame.  Yeah, look at all those empty seats...
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Solkanar512 posted:Seriously, where in the hell do you get this? Most of the teams are profitable, they're adding a team or two per year, and we have stadiums whose average attendance puts the majority of Europe to shame. Also it should be noted that the MLS now (or at least in 2013) has a higher average attendance at games than either the NHL or NBA Forbes article from 2013 posted:There’s certainly no lack of demand for the proposed expansion teams. Two new franchises in Orlando and New York City are already expected to join in 2015, bringing the league up to 21 teams. Former LA Galaxy midfielder David Beckham is exploring expansion opportunities in Miami, while Atlanta, Minneapolis and Sacramento suburb Elk Grove are just a few cities that appear intent on claiming an MLS team in the coming years. I mean yeah, the MLS is not going to topple the NFL anytime soon but it's come a long way from being on the verge of collapse like it was roughly a decade ago.
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Solkanar512 posted:Seriously, where in the hell do you get this? Most of the teams are profitable, they're adding a team or two per year, and we have stadiums whose average attendance puts the majority of Europe to shame. There more money in fake wrestling than in real soccer.
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Best selling sports game title of all time is FIFA: "As of 2011, the FIFA franchise has been localised into 18 languages and available in 51 countries.[3] The series has sold more than 100 million copies worldwide, making it the best-selling sports video game franchise in the world, and one of the best-selling video game franchises.[4] Also FIFA 12 holds the record for the "fastest selling sports game ever" with over 3.2 million games sold and over $186 million generated at retail in its first week of release."
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The president of the French football association, Noël Le Graët, said in a reaction to Blatter's resignation that 'Blatter is to blame for nothing'.  And Jérôme Champagne called Blatter a martyr for sacrificing himself for the greater good.
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 It's really Christmas in June. quote:LYON, France – At the request of US authorities, INTERPOL Red Notices – or international wanted persons alerts – have been issued for two former FIFA officials and four corporate executives for charges including racketeering, conspiracy and corruption. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Jun 3, 2015 |
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Charlie Mopps posted:The president of the French football association, Noël Le Graët, said in a reaction to Blatter's resignation that 'Blatter is to blame for nothing'. It's a shame that "he totally threw himself on the sword despite his innocence" wouldn't be covered even by RICO charges in this case 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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What is context to why international soccer fans are so actively pissed at fifa?
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Spazzle posted:What is context to why international soccer fans are so actively pissed at fifa? These will sum it up quite nicely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr6ar3xJL_Q
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Spazzle posted:What is context to why international soccer fans are so actively pissed at fifa?
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It just sounds like a huge multinational with too much power and not enough oversight. It's typical for big international corporations to do crazy poo poo but it sounds like FIFA got too big and thought themselves too untouchable.
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Spazzle posted:What is context to why international soccer fans are so actively pissed at fifa? The by far biggest reason is the 2022 World Cup in Qatar. You obviously can't play a World Cup in summer (the traditional WC time), since the players would simply die in the heat. That means the WC must be held at another time, and it was nearly always most likely to be held in the winter. That disrupts basically all domestic soccer leagues, who would need to be suspended at least a month before the WC, and a few weeks afterwards. Additionally, since something like 90% of all players in a World Cup play in one of Europe's domestic leagues, this would mean a lot of European clubs will have very exhausted players in the middle of the season. Some of the most successful clubs in Europe would have nearly all their first team, and a lot of their second team, playing for their countries in the tournament, since they bought basically the best players in the world, regardless of nationality. That would be a huge disadvantage, not only in their domestic season but also in the international competitions, like the UEFA Champions League (the most important soccer tournament for clubs), which could cost them dozens of millions of Euros. The English are especially unhappy with a winter World Cup, since they have a winter break a lot later than all other leagues, and the Christmas games are often the most important/popular matches in a season. Then there is a usual snobbery, the classical European and South American soccer powers don't understand why upstarts like Qatar, who never even qualified for a World Cup, can host soccer's most important tournament. There is also the human rights issues (which is also a problem with Russia, just not as bad as in Qatar), with probably hundreds of quasi-slaves dying already to construct the soccer stadiums. And even though it's illegal to make "propaganda for deviant(gay) lifestyles" in Russia, at least you can't be sentenced to death over it like in Qatar, not to mention the treatment of women etc. And the corruption is of course isn't good for the image of soccer, which isn't unimportant for soccer fans. Additionally, some suspect the FIFA of fixing or influencing World Cup matches, which is of course a huge deal. Examples like South Korea in the 2002 World Cup, or Brazil in the most recent World Cup come to mind.
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Vladimir Putin posted:It just sounds like a huge multinational with too much power and not enough oversight. It's typical for big international corporations to do crazy poo poo but it sounds like FIFA got too big and thought themselves too untouchable. They basically were untouchable. No one else would be willing to take them on because we do not give a poo poo about repercussions. Oh no! They're going to punish our national team!
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Vladimir Putin posted:It just sounds like a huge multinational with too much power and not enough oversight. It's typical for big international corporations to do crazy poo poo but it sounds like FIFA got too big and thought themselves too untouchable. Except on top of everything else, FIFA is ostensibly a non-profit.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:They basically were untouchable. No one else would be willing to take them on because we do not give a poo poo about repercussions. This whole problem with FIFA makes it sound like all it would take for a terror group to bring any Euro / SA country to its knees is throw bags over their star kickball players' heads and whisk them off somewhere.
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EmperorFritoBandito posted:This whole problem with FIFA makes it sound like all it would take for a terror group to bring any Euro / SA country to its knees is throw bags over their star kickball players' heads and whisk them off somewhere. Basically yeah, although soccer is so insanely popular with every Muslim country in the world that if they ever pulled a Munich on soccer players they could kiss all their recruiting and cash flow goodbye. It would be like pro-life terrorists in the US bombing the super bowl levels of idiocy for their own cause.
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EmperorFritoBandito posted:This whole problem with FIFA makes it sound like all it would take for a terror group to bring any Euro / SA country to its knees is throw bags over their star kickball players' heads and whisk them off somewhere. The population at large are aware of and want reform and change within FIFA, but they're apathetic and resigned to corruption. Anyone who can affect actual change is isolated from the problem due to the way the FA's interact with and are independent of government. Its like asking Bobby Jindal to pass a bill banning pseudo-amateur NCAA status, knowing it would mean the LSU Tigers missed four seasons of championships. It'd be political suicide. Torrannor posted:
This is bullshit. The 2002 World Cup was popular, even with the complications of time differences and South Koreas magical mystery refereeing tour. People really got behind 2010 and the first African tournament, even with the Vuvuzuelas. Australia's 2022 bid has popular backing, and none of those four countries would be favourites to qualify from a group stage, never mind win the thing. Qatar ranked bottom or next to bottom on every rating metric that FIFA judged bids on, and still won. They have a civilian population that could fit inside the Nou Camp, and 8/10 of the stadia are being constructed in the same city, which would have benefitted countries like Brazil, who got stuck building a car park in Manaus because those restrictions were set in stone when they bid.
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Total Meatlove posted:This is bullshit. The 2002 World Cup was popular, even with the complications of time differences and South Koreas magical mystery refereeing tour. People really got behind 2010 and the first African tournament, even with the Vuvuzuelas. Australia's 2022 bid has popular backing, and none of those four countries would be favourites to qualify from a group stage, never mind win the thing. Qatar ranked bottom or next to bottom on every rating metric that FIFA judged bids on, and still won. They have a civilian population that could fit inside the Nou Camp, and 8/10 of the stadia are being constructed in the same city, which would have benefitted countries like Brazil, who got stuck building a car park in Manaus because those restrictions were set in stone when they bid. It was probably a mistake to write "usual snobbery", but Qatar really can't be compared to the other nations you wrote about. South Korea managed to qualify for four World Cups in a row before hosting the tournament, Australia qualified for the last three World Cups and even South Africa qualified for two World Cups in a row. Qatar never, ever qualified for the World Cup. Granted, the others are never favorites to get out of the group stages, but at least they more or less deserve(d) the automatic qualification for said group stages that a host has, in contrast to Qatar.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Basically yeah, although soccer is so insanely popular with every Muslim country in the world that if they ever pulled a Munich on soccer players they could kiss all their recruiting and cash flow goodbye. It would be like pro-life terrorists in the US bombing the super bowl levels of idiocy for their own cause. I thought Daesh didn't like football.
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The World Cup finals should always be held at Wrigley Field.
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Bob James posted:The World Cup finals should always be held at Wrigley Field. You mean a place we can't even hold football games at now?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:You mean a place we can't even hold football games at now? We could go with a neutral location like Antarctica or the moon.
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So does the red notice mean that Jack Warner fled after being released?
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Kurtofan posted:I thought Daesh didn't like football. They've played football Mayan style (with human heads) but they've killed kids for watching a game broadcasted from a western country so it's a mixed bag really.
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Charlie Mopps posted:The president of the French football association, Noël Le Graët, said in a reaction to Blatter's resignation that 'Blatter is to blame for nothing'. Saint Sepp, patron of sports administrators, rich men from poor countries, gout.
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 While not a sponsor who brought Blatter down, this does still call for a victory drink. It's like fuckin Christmas. The vote for a new president won't happen for a while, but it would be great if almost everyone running to replace Blatter gets snatched up too 
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If Blatter is imprisoned Oliver should have to buttchug Bud Light Lime.
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Bob James posted:If Blatter is imprisoned Oliver should have to buttchug Bud Light Lime. That would actually save his taste buds from untold misery though.
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A Winner is Jew posted:That would actually save his taste buds from untold misery though. Yeah, but he would win all the Emmys if he performed it in front of a TV camera.
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Some of Blazer's testimony while pleading guilty has been unsealed. Blazer outright admitted that he and several other FIFA executives accepted bribes for the 1998 (France) and 2010 world cups.
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Northjayhawk posted:Some of Blazer's testimony while pleading guilty has been unsealed. Blazer outright admitted that he and several other FIFA executives accepted bribes for the 1998 (France) and 2010 world cups. Also for several Gold Cup tournaments and tv rights for several tournaments. But Blatter et al. are of course completely innocent and without knowledge of all this.
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Northjayhawk posted:Some of Blazer's testimony while pleading guilty has been unsealed. Blazer outright admitted that he and several other FIFA executives accepted bribes for the 1998 (France) and 2010 world cups. No wonder France was backing Blatter.
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Once those guys are all extradited to the US, the conversation with each of them is going to be very similar: "So, would you like to see sunlight in the next 30 years? What do you know about 2018 and 2022? Got anything on Blatter? Talk and maybe we can knock it down to 10 years"
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Northjayhawk posted:Once those guys are all extradited to the US, the conversation with each of them is going to be very similar: "Oh, by the way we're giving this same offer to 3 of your co-horts and only whomever sqawks the fastest and the loudest gets the deal."
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^^^ You son of a bitch ^^^  Northjayhawk posted:Once those guys are all extradited to the US, the conversation with each of them is going to be very similar: P.S. It's also only the first three of you that talk that gets this deal or tells us something we don't already know so something else to discuss with your lawyer.
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