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Republican Vampire posted:Because it's a lazy way of giving the protagonist pathos and ignorance of the setting, but the necessarily brief glimpse we get of his life before the story proper starts undercuts our ability to care about what he's nominally lost. How is it lazier than giving the player character amnesia in your favorite Fallout?
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Republican Vampire posted:Because it's a lazy way of giving the protagonist pathos and ignorance of the setting, but the necessarily brief glimpse we get of his life before the story proper starts undercuts our ability to care about what he's nominally lost. Give him amnesia I say.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:52 |
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Keeshhound posted:Wasn't that also one of the characters in Mothership Zeta? There were like three you met plus a bunch in recordings.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:52 |
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sout posted:There's always a vault. There's always a man. There's always a guy who says "war never changes."
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:52 |
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What else did those mysterious audition slides say?
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:53 |
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Yaos posted:The player character in Skyrim is voiced. Actual dialogue isn't the same thing as uttering sound effects. Unless you consider Link a voiced character.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:54 |
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Republican Vampire posted:Because it's a lazy way of giving the protagonist pathos and ignorance of the setting, but the necessarily brief glimpse we get of his life before the story proper starts undercuts our ability to care about what he's nominally lost. How is that different from living in a utopian vault, which we need to leave to face the dark and evil real world? Harrow posted:Well, at least we can be pretty sure that this is what the actual game will look like and we're not being shown some doctored-up marketing graphics. These pictures don't look good enough to be "doctored-up"
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:55 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:55 |
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Yaos posted:How is it lazier than giving the player character amnesia in your favorite Fallout? The Courier doesn't have amnesia. He or she is just a totally blank slate who can be as ignorant or aware as the player wants. But it's also not an issue of laziness. I'm sure they've put a lot of work into their dumb premise, complete with flashbacks and lovingly designed ruins full of dioramas they've set up to give you emotions. It's just wasted effort, like all the father/son crap in Fallout 3.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:56 |
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Bethesda's main problem is that we live in a world where The Witcher 3 exists.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:56 |
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I cannot wait to listen to troy baker go "hunh...." or "lookie what we got here..." every time I go through a box
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:57 |
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Part of me wishes that they made the vault dweller a lady just to immolate the Internet.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:57 |
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1stGear posted:Bethesda's main problem is that we live in a world where The Witcher 3 exists. Witcher 3 has ray guns!?
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:58 |
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Bholder posted:How is that different from living in a utopian vault, which we need to leave to face the dark and evil real world? You could and did return to Vault 13 to do side quests and get an ongoing sense of the community and your place in it. Bethesda did something similar with Vault 101, but I don't think it really worked either because so much of that was bound up in James, who was a total nonstarter as a character.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:59 |
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Super good job cancelling Prey 2 to make this Bethesda. A+ decision making.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:59 |
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Rexicon1 posted:Part of me wishes that they made the vault dweller a lady just to immolate the Internet. For sure
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:59 |
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CJacobs posted:I cannot wait to listen to troy baker go "hunh...." or "lookie what we got here..." every time I go through a box If Bethesda is smart they'll just hire Matthew Mercer. It's cheaper and they'll get the same performance.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 20:59 |
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1stGear posted:Bethesda's main problem is that we live in a world where The Witcher 3 exists. Nobody can make a game as lovely as The Witcher 3, but I'm sure Bethesda will try. Republican Vampire posted:The Courier doesn't have amnesia. He or she is just a totally blank slate who can be as ignorant or aware as the player wants.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:00 |
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AlternateAccount posted:Super good job cancelling Prey 2 to make this Bethesda. A+ decision making. Agreed.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:01 |
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The vault boy is already super stylized, pop games you lovely plastic baubles hacks.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:01 |
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Ahahahahahahaha
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:02 |
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Republican Vampire posted:The Courier doesn't have amnesia. He or she is just a totally blank slate who can be as ignorant or aware as the player wants. I don't want flashbacks/pre-war stuff either.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:02 |
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Note literally everyone's elbow in the same spot because gently caress having different animations for very different characters.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:03 |
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If there's a real problem with the potential engine, it will be about loading screens.AlternateAccount posted:Note literally everyone's elbow in the same spot because gently caress having different animations for very different characters. Just like in every other game, ever.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:03 |
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Yaos posted:Nobody can make a game as lovely as The Witcher 3
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:03 |
Fair Bear Maiden posted:If Bethesda is smart they'll just hire Matthew Mercer. It's cheaper and they'll get the same performance. I was tripping out during Pillars of Eternity because both companions you get at the beginning of the game after the tutorial area are voiced by Matthew Mercer, who sounds exactly like Troy Baker.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:03 |
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Phil Tenderpuss posted:Ahahahahahahaha Not only does everybody in this shot have the same skeleton, it's the same animation from Fallout 3.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:03 |
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AlternateAccount posted:Note literally everyone's elbow in the same spot because gently caress having different animations for very different characters. Also note that its the exact same run animation they've been using since Oblivion lmfao
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:03 |
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Phil Tenderpuss posted:Also note that its the exact same run animation they've been using since Oblivion lmfao That dude on the left is using the same crouch animation.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:04 |
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Yaos posted:That dude on the left is using the same crouch animation. Lol I didn't notice this at first
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:04 |
I heard the lead animator for Bethesda Studios was a college friend of Todd Howard who got hired despite the fact that he failed his computer animation course at college twice.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:05 |
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SunAndSpring posted:I heard the lead animator for Bethesda Studios was a college friend of Todd Howard who got hired despite the fact that he failed his computer animation course at college twice. You failed making good posts but that never stopped you.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:05 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:make critical VATS headshots make the targets' eyes explode, even when shot from back or side of head = return of eyeshots And groin shots please. Thank you.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:06 |
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Give me a gun, a dog and a nuclear wasteland and I will buy your DLCs and play for 200 hours. Seeing how this is a Bethesda in-house production, obviously this isn't going to be as good as F:NV. I doubt however that F4 will be worse than F3 story and gameplay wise and I really enjoyed F3. Agreed that graphics are nothing to write home about, but as the cliche saying goes - no one plays Fallout for graphics.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:06 |
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I know I should be complaining that this is going to be bad and evil and disappointing compared to New Vegas because Bethesda but I'm really loving excited nonetheless.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:07 |
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Also I wish Bethesda would acknowledge that their implementation of VATS in a 3rd person FPS is loving dumb and doesn't work and needs a pretty serious rethink. OH LOL I SHOT HIM IN THE DICK LOOOOLLLLL
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:08 |
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The fact that they managed to add colours was such a huge innovation for them that they probably gave up and took a nap, instead of fixing everything else.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:08 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I know I should be complaining that this is going to be bad and evil and disappointing compared to New Vegas because Bethesda but I'm really loving exciting nonetheless. Agreed, you are exciting...and dreamy.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 21:08 |
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AlternateAccount posted:Super good job cancelling Prey 2 to make this Bethesda. A+ decision making. I still have hope. Yaos posted:Not only does everybody in this shot have the same skeleton, it's the same animation from Fallout 3. Why'd this take 4 years again?
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