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Sankis posted:I don't think there's a Fallout 1+2 thread anywhere but the fallout 4 announcement made me realize I haven't played FO1 or 2 in a long time. Is that Fallout 2 restoration mod that came out years ago any good or is it garbage. those things are only ever one extreme or the other. Seconding the killaps restoration patch- it restores a LOT of cut content in a way that seems faithful to the original, fixes a shitload of bugs and fixes the graphics to make it playable on modern monitors. Probably worth checking this handy list of changes/additions made by location. For fallout 1 theres fallout fixt, of which I haven't tried but it seems well reviewed so I'm about to try it.
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Sankis posted:gamebryo is the name of a middleware they used from Morrowind to For emphasis: The problem with Bethesda's engines is their own wonky spaghetti code, baffling QA practices, an animation department that appears to be staffed by a single monkey and questionable design decisions. Gamebryo itself - despite the bad reputation the Internet has given it since Oblivion - is fine.
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Jun 7, 2015 11:11
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:If there aren't a bunch of obnoxious ghoulified Red Sox fans that you can shoot in the game, well that's definitely a mod I would pay for. Good news!
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Jun 7, 2015 12:14
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You know, that garage with the power armor on the lift is probably just a mock up for the trailer, but it'd be cool if the player had a home base and they had to find and assemble their own power armor; it'd make a more fun gating mechanic than another round of "convince someone to teach you". Especially if you play a pre war soldier that already knows how they work.
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Jun 7, 2015 13:35
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:If there aren't a bunch of obnoxious ghoulified Red Sox fans that you can shoot in the game, well that's definitely a mod I would pay for. There's a vault of cloned Nomar Garciaparras that Boston had made a la Vault 2277. Nomaaaaaaah Nomah?
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Jun 7, 2015 13:51
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Watch them not even have any boston accents and this be the most disappointing fallout.
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With all the talk in this topic of New Vegas vs. Fallout 3 I decided to give FO3 another playthrough, since I haven't played it in maybe six-seven years. Grabbed the GOTY edition on Steam (previously only owned the physical GFWL copy) and downloaded the Tale of Two Wastelands mod that lets you play both games together under the updated New Vegas engine. The TTW mod starts you with the FO3 tutorial and lets you play in that world before going over to New Vegas. Being so many years removed from this game, I was surprised at how bare bones it all felt. Everything, from the map and sound design to the npc dialogue and gameplay just made me think of a beta or proof of concept game. I played through the tutorial and then wandered around Springvale and Megaton for a bit and everything just seemed so....poorly thought out, I guess? Like someone said "this would look cool, let's do it" instead of thinking about actual world building and how to make your setting feel cohesive. When I wandered into Megaton and the sheriff approached me to say "i've only just met you but I like you, you seem like a good guy so hey take a look at disarming our unexploded nuclear bomb", the whole thing felt awkward and contrived. I guess that's why I don't understand this whole "Fallout 3 had better gameplay and New Vegas was dull" angle. I get some people have their preferences for games but after playing New Vegas, all of Fallout 3 feels like it's really poorly written fan fiction in a disjointed world. I really hope Bethesda takes a cue from New Vegas and works a little bit at making actual functioning societies instead of just more places to shoot things. I'll be disappointed if all those great looking cityscapes they showed in the Fallout 4 trailer end up just being backdrops for shootouts with super mutants or raiders, like DC was.
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Jun 7, 2015 14:53
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Watch them not even have any boston accents and this be the most disappointing fallout. If it's anything like the pitt it'll have accents from somewhere nearby that sound totally different.
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Jun 7, 2015 15:07
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skyrim was better than new vegas in every way
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Jun 7, 2015 15:22
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Shugojin posted:If it's anything like the pitt it'll have accents from somewhere nearby that sound totally different. The lack of West Pennsylvania accents in the Pitt was genuinely upsetting. "AY YINS GAWNA GUP THE TAWR UH KILL ASHUR ERE BUDDY?!"
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Jun 7, 2015 15:27
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Shugojin posted:If it's anything like the pitt it'll have accents from somewhere nearby that sound totally different. It's gonna be like how the Scout is supposed to be Bostonian or something (has an achievement that references the Red Sox winning in 2004) but sounds like he's from Brooklyn (and more specifically Vince Offer).
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Jun 7, 2015 15:30
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Zzulu posted:skyrim was better than new vegas in every way Skyrim certainly had NV beat on the number of essential npcs
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Plan Z posted:The lack of West Pennsylvania accents in the Pitt was genuinely upsetting.
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Zzulu posted:skyrim was better than new vegas in every way lmao
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Deakul posted:lmao
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Jun 7, 2015 17:00
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Deakul posted:lmao Don't you want to sell your soul to several Daedric princes? What do you mean, "NO!" gently caress you, you're doing it anyway at least five times. 
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Jun 7, 2015 17:02
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Zzulu posted:skyrim was better than new vegas in every way Skyrim was written by children.
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Jun 7, 2015 17:26
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This is a lengthy but it's a merciless yet fair breakdown of the worst of Skyrim. Good read.
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Jun 7, 2015 17:30
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that part on the main quest when you infiltrate the thalmor embassy. that was the most  poo poo ever if god forbid you don't have the ubiquitous stealth character
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Jun 7, 2015 17:47
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I'll really miss the humor of Fallout: New Vegas the most. Obsidian writers can write some funny poo poo. I can't remember anything from Fallout 3 that was comedic in a good way.
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Jun 7, 2015 17:55
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New Vegas did everything better. Bethesda should now just make game engines for Obsidian.
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Jun 7, 2015 17:58
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SunAndSpring posted:I'll really miss the humor of Fallout: New Vegas the most. Obsidian writers can write some funny poo poo. I can't remember anything from Fallout 3 that was comedic in a good way. Pretty much the entirety of the dialogue in Old World Blues had me in stitches, that and No-Bark Noonan are the two I can pull off the top of my head but there are so many more examples.
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Jun 7, 2015 18:09
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SunAndSpring posted:I'll really miss the humor of Fallout: New Vegas the most. Obsidian writers can write some funny poo poo. I can't remember anything from Fallout 3 that was comedic in a good way.  This guy and his whole area was cool, I wish they had expanded the finding the national relics part of the game.
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Jun 7, 2015 18:11
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Also Moira, who is the best.
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Jun 7, 2015 18:13
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I hope they won't do the immortal npc bullshit, it's just so annoying.
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Jun 7, 2015 18:42
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They've been doing it for three games. They'll do it for a fourth.
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Jun 7, 2015 18:47
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Baron Bifford posted:New Vegas did everything better. Bethesda should now just make game engines for Obsidian. I rather Obsidian team up with CDProjekt. The Red engine seems to actually be well made and not broken (still prone to the jank, though, which is fine). Having great facial animations makes a world of difference and Obsidian's writing make use of that really well.
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Jun 7, 2015 18:52
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Point Lookout was also cool and funny in a way that was generally agreeable I think, The duel between desmond and calvert and the braindead cult built around them was a comical situation but also gave you more player choice and options than all the other dlcs. If they go down more that route I'd be pretty happy.
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Hey did anyone else notice how hard this trailer worked to avoid showing a closeup on faces
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Falcon24 posted:I guess that's why I don't understand this whole "Fallout 3 had better gameplay and New Vegas was dull" angle. I can definitely see why someone would have that opinion if they valued action over role playing. Quests in Fallout 3 almost always involved dungeon exploring and combat. New Vegas had a lot of quests that didn't amount to much more than ping ponging between NPC's, often with several load screens between them. Once you get to Freeside you could potentially end up doing a lot of these in a row without a good fire fight or dungeon crawl to break them up.
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Jimbot posted:I rather Obsidian team up with CDProjekt. The Red engine seems to actually be well made and not broken (still prone to the jank, though, which is fine). Having great facial animations makes a world of difference and Obsidian's writing make use of that really well. See, the problem there would be that Fallout is good and the Witcher isn't
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cargohills posted:See, the problem there would be that Fallout is good and the Witcher isn't I like both, but haven't played 3 yet.
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cargohills posted:See, the problem there would be that Fallout is good and the Witcher isn't there can only be One Good Video Game and all others are the worst
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ShadowMar posted:there can only be One Good Video Game and all others are the worst Pretty sure I didn't say that
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ShadowMar posted:there can only be One Good Video Game and all others are the worst If you dislike the video game product that I like, that means you dislike me, and if you like the video game product it is impossible to appreciate or enjoy its vague competitor, because that is a betrayal most foul.
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Sharkopath posted:If you dislike the video game product that I like, that means you dislike me, and if you like the video game product it is impossible to appreciate or enjoy its vague competitor, because that is a betrayal most foul. yea same
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Sharkopath posted:If you dislike the video game product that I like, that means you dislike me, and if you like the video game product it is impossible to appreciate or enjoy its vague competitor, because that is a betrayal most foul. same, op
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Baron Bifford posted:New Vegas did everything better. Bethesda should now just make game engines for Obsidian. This, except they should also hire someone else to make the game engine.
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Jun 7, 2015 19:15
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Not sure why Bethesda doesn't just offer to let Obsidian collaborate with them. Obsidian is perfectly willing to do so with inXile and seem eager to work on Fallout again. Why not give them the chance?
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cargohills posted:See, the problem there would be that Fallout is good and the Witcher isn't The Witcher 3 is better than any Fallout game in any aspect you could name.
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