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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdx1M9Qj_Mw The mothership zeta theme was really cool too and I wish they had put it up somewhere at high quality because it only exists as a stream off the fo3 website.
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MisterBibs posted:But I liked Fallout 3 (way better in exploration and setting) and really don't want to walk through empty deserts while hearing Johnny Guitar for the billionth time.
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Sharkopath posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdx1M9Qj_Mw
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MisterBibs posted:You keep bringing this up, and you keep forgetting that I loved WoW questing. I had a bunch of alts just because I liked leveling. The only time I had a 'problem' with questing was trying to find cave entrances. Questing was my wheelhouse. Way better than standing next to a large boss hitting a rotation for 10-15 minutes at a time getting loot that'll be replaced by questing greens the next expansion. Fallout 3 introduced Yao Guai and I think that's the only merit I found. I love me some ghoulified bears.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:31
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I'm sorry Bethesda broke your mind so much that you try to look for reasons to argue with people who actually agree with you I wasn't arguing with you! I just saw (or thought I saw, there's no marker, I don't know if I can see edit markers) you edit your posts while describing the BethFan and thought it was goofy, because the original (or what I thought was the original) was briefer and didn't have the needless specifics you added (or I thought you added). but maybe you didn't.
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MisterBibs posted:You keep bringing this up, and you keep forgetting that I loved WoW questing. I had a bunch of alts just because I liked leveling. The only time I had a 'problem' with questing was trying to find cave entrances. Questing was my wheelhouse. Way better than standing next to a large boss hitting a rotation for 10-15 minutes at a time getting loot that'll be replaced by questing greens the next expansion. I'm also sorry for the dozens of people who have had to help you with questing and them espousing their exasperation in the SA WOW threads.
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Looking at the big 4K screenshot, I wonder if that's a mock-up for an upgradable home base? You have all sorts of "displays" and it looks like we will be collecting skylander type pip-boys judging by the display in the image. Going by the same logic, that power armor looks awfully modifiable with interchangable parts. Sorry if this has already been mentioned; I can't tell in all the FO3 vs. NV crap.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:32
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new vegas crashed and deleted my saves 3 times in a row, before i got to vegas itself. gently caress new vegas. a hideous game with lifeless characters and interminable dialogue spread thin across a barren flatland
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PervertedLogic posted:Looking at the big 4K screenshot, I wonder if that's a mock-up for an upgradable home base? You have all sorts of "displays" and it looks like we will be collecting skylander type pip-boys judging by the display in the image. Going by the same logic, that power armor looks awfully modifiable with interchangable parts. that is a huge assumption to make from a screenshot alone about a company that never even goes the first mile, much less any extras
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Jun 7, 2015 20:35
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PervertedLogic posted:Looking at the big 4K screenshot, I wonder if that's a mock-up for an upgradable home base? You have all sorts of "displays" and it looks like we will be collecting skylander type pip-boys judging by the display in the image. Going by the same logic, that power armor looks awfully modifiable with interchangable parts.
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I enjoyed Mothership Zeta well enough, I liked the classic sci-fi styling and it was nice to get alien rayguns like FO1. Point Lookout though... I wanted to like that one but it was just a bit... eh. Some day I really want a Fallout: Louisiana, but if Point Lookout is how Bethesda makes swamps, I want somebody else to do it.
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You think? You know they are going to have a collectible equivalent - pip-boys, snow globes, etc. - so little action figures makes sense. The armor? Probably, but, again, if they were looking to add little upgrades, that's the way to do it.
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it is the smallest of their sins but it really bothers me that they put commas after the initial "so" in the second two but not in the first. maybe because it's the Intelligence-locked option they decided they had to use a reasonable style guide for that one?
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Malpais Legate posted:Oh my god you whined for nine pages about how the lack of flying made the game impossible to play and you couldn't even complete the starter zone of WoD. Impossible, no. Unacceptable, yes. The 'not being able to complete the starter zone of WoD' thing is new to me. Granted, I'm not surprised folks who invent reasons claiming that ground-movement is acceptable in WoW would invent things I didn't say.  catlord posted:I enjoyed Mothership Zeta well enough, I liked the classic sci-fi styling and it was nice to get alien rayguns like FO1. This is what saved MZ for me, personally. I remember the combat being annoying as hell, but hey, Fallout is Classic Science Fiction Stuff and fighting off green-skinned aliens with laser blasters is in that wheelhouse. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jun 7, 2015 |
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PervertedLogic posted:Looking at the big 4K screenshot, I wonder if that's a mock-up for an upgradable home base? You have all sorts of "displays" and it looks like we will be collecting skylander type pip-boys judging by the display in the image. Going by the same logic, that power armor looks awfully modifiable with interchangable parts. I can say that the weapons might be modifiable in an interesting way, just by that laser rifle on he wall. Besides the replacement stocks one of those pieces looks like a new housing for the entire body.
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catlord posted:I enjoyed Mothership Zeta well enough, I liked the classic sci-fi styling and it was nice to get alien rayguns like FO1. I enjoyed he new setting of lookout but the parts I liked the most were the multiple quests that were a bit more open ended and also stuff like the Chinese spy quest you find by accident. If you read a note in the lighthouse you can follow a clue to get a replacement bulb and install it for no real benefit other than it works now. It was a neat touch.
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twistedmentat posted:Plus the whole Vault Project was revealed to be a series of social experiments. Some were control, but most had some thing that was meant to be studied. You can't argue thats not obvious because its literally in every vault in 3 and NV. There is a weird thing that all this was to test humans on long term space travel. What was the reasoning for the vault experiments again? What a bunch of assholes.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:57
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Three Dog is that guy from the Fifth Element, right.
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Jun 7, 2015 21:01
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Baron Bifford posted:The Witcher 3 is very well written; there's nothing for Obsidian to improve. Obsidian should cooperate with developers that aren't good at writing, such as Bethesda. That's true. I meant more along the lines of CD Projekt approaching them to, say, work on a sequel to a franchise they have the rights to and using the Red engine. My biggest peev with Fallout 4 is that it just looks like they're still using the same broke-rear end engine, which gives me a good idea of what you will be capable of doing in the game. That's even without comparing it to what Witcher 3 does in world and quest design and all that.
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Phlegmish posted:What was the reasoning for the vault experiments again? What a bunch of assholes. Experiments to see how people would react to various situations in long periods of isolation. Supposedly for space travel.
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LEGO Genetics posted:Experiments to see how people would react to various situations in long periods of isolation. Supposedly for space travel.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:The real answer is nuclear war was looming over and "gently caress it, we don't have any real obligation to keep our citizens around (or their well being) why don't we just gently caress with them" And aliens.
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I have to say, a lot of those experiments seemed needlessly sadistic and I have my doubts about the usefulness of the data they got from it. Were the data even processed after the nukes hit, was there anyone left to do it? So the Enclave is the remnant of the United States government, but they've been struggling and failing to re-establish control for centuries?
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crawlkill posted:it is the smallest of their sins but it really bothers me that they put commas after the initial "so" in the second two but not in the first. maybe because it's the Intelligence-locked option they decided they had to use a reasonable style guide for that one? It's because, intelligent people know when to use commas.
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Phlegmish posted:I have to say, a lot of those experiments seemed needlessly sadistic and I have my doubts about the usefulness of the data they got from it. Were the data even processed after the nukes hit, was there anyone left to do it? one of the joys of Fallout is that it makes no very concerted effort to make sense. if the black comedy works, it'll find its way in. it's a gonzo universe full of over-the-top lunatics. trying to make sense of the Vault experiments from a practical perspective is doomed to fail. they're there because it's a 50s-style dystopia. enraged_camel posted:It's because, intelligent people know when to use commas. yes that was the joke that I made thank you for repeating it
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crawlkill posted:yes that was the joke that I made thank you for repeating it I actually have no idea what you meant by "maybe because it's the Intelligence-locked option they decided they had to use a reasonable style guide for that one" but I decided to roll with it.
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LEGO Genetics posted:Experiments to see how people would react to various situations in long periods of isolation. Supposedly for space travel. The real joke is that's it's heavily implied in Fallout 1&2 that the government never thought they'd have to use the Vaults as actual Fallout shelters because of that fact. 
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Jimbot posted:That's true. I meant more along the lines of CD Projekt approaching them to, say, work on a sequel to a franchise they have the rights to and using the Red engine. My biggest peev with Fallout 4 is that it just looks like they're still using the same broke-rear end engine, which gives me a good idea of what you will be capable of doing in the game. That's even without comparing it to what Witcher 3 does in world and quest design and all that. The reason why they're sticking with their engine is because they know how it works, making it easier for them to create huge open world games. Open world games are not easy to make at all, so anything that speeds along the process is great. Switching to an all-new engine, whether homegrown or bought off the shelf, has doomed projects far smaller than Bethesda games, like Daikatana. It's clear that CDProjekt is doing the same thing with their engine as well, since they want to use it for their cyberpunk game.
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LEGO Genetics posted:I once met someone who liked Mothership Zeta. I liked Mothership Zeta. Well, "like" is a strong word but I didn't sell my soul to Satan to try to get back the time I spent playing it, which I kind of considered for Anchorage.
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Lol at te horrible animation
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enraged_camel posted:I actually have no idea what you meant by "maybe because it's the Intelligence-locked option they decided they had to use a reasonable style guide for that one" but I decided to roll with it. a style guide is a document that guides a project so that it will be uniform in style, ie, "do we capitalize the v in Vault 13, do we capitalize the v when we're just saying "the vaults" generally, do we use Oxford commas, do we put a comma after an initial 'so' or skip it because that looks really stupid unless the next word is 'like'" the more you know
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closeted republican posted:The reason why they're sticking with their engine is because they know how it works, making it easier for them to create huge open world games. Open world games are not easy to make at all, so anything that speeds along the process is great. Switching to an all-new engine, whether homegrown or bought off the shelf, has doomed projects far smaller than Bethesda games, like Daikatana. True enough but it still doesn't change the fact that the engine is bad. We've already seen what it can do and from that trailer it doesn't look radically different. I guess we'll just see for sure this Sunday. I imagine they have a controlled gameplay demonstration lined-up. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Shugojin posted:Yeah that contract was idiotic and it hosed them out of royalties and pretty much any chance of doing another game for Bethesda. Basically everyone at obsidian (Sawyer, Avellone, Feargus) said they would jump at the chance to do another fallout game so really it's up to bethesda. The media/fans made a way bigger deal out of that metacritic thing than obsidian did tbh.
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Phlegmish posted:Three Dog is that guy from the Fifth Element, right. I don't think I would have killed Three Dog if he were actually Ruby Rhod.
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If you couldn't play Johnny Guitar on loop to get you into that New Vegas mood you got a broke brain.
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That should've been one of the Vault experiments. Screw subliminal messages while people try to sleep, what would happen if people had to listen to the same song every day, all day for 300 years?
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I know NV is way better at questing than 3 but I feel like 3 can do some really cool quests when it wants to. Tenpenny's tower's quest is awesome because there is assholes and good people on both sides and no matter what you do you end up loving poo poo up because the leadership of both groups are terrible. I felt like I did good when I merged the ghouls with the humans but felt like poo poo when I came back to realize Roy simply murdered all the humans and dumped them in the cellar. Poor Dashwood. 
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BillBear posted:I know NV is way better at questing than 3 but I feel like 3 can do some really cool quests when it wants to. Tenpenny's tower's quest is awesome because there is assholes and good people on both sides and no matter what you do you end up loving poo poo up because the leadership of both groups are terrible. I felt like I did good when I merged the ghouls with the humans but felt like poo poo when I came back to realize Roy simply murdered all the humans and dumped them in the cellar. Poor Dashwood. I forget, does Roy turn immortal once you finish it? Otherwise you could just kill him immediately. ...I still like that he tosses Tenpenny off the tower though.
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