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YeahTubaMike posted:Re: the whole "4 for $5" thing from earlier, I noticed that my local grocery store would occasionally have sales like "4 dozen medium eggs for $5," which is fine, whatever. What annoyed me was that I eventually discovered each dozen was $1.25, so I wasn't actually saving anything by buying 4 dozen eggs at a time. Then I eventually also discovered that literally all their "x for $y" deals were the same. I've seen deals like this at supermarkets when certain items are close to expiration - case in point, a local Baker's occasionally sells half-gallons of milk for like $1 a piece when they're less than 2 weeks from expiration. I guess it's OK if you know you'll be going through items like that quick (I usually go through a couple gallons of milk a week mixing protein shakes) but kinda sucks if you don't and they spoil before they can be fully used.
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Ozz81 posted:I've seen deals like this at supermarkets when certain items are close to expiration - case in point, a local Baker's occasionally sells half-gallons of milk for like $1 a piece when they're less than 2 weeks from expiration. The expiration date on milk can be more than 2 weeks? 
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The White Dragon posted:The expiration date on milk can be more than 2 weeks? Organic milk goes through a different pasteurization process that heats it at a higher temperature. Generally this is because several companies buy the milk from the same supplier so the supplier has a lot of milk that needs to stay on the shelf for quite a while. By the time you buy it in a carton, the expiration date is like 3 months later. Tastes fine and lasts longer.
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cash crab posted:Blue! I want blue eggs! The avatar combo with this post was awesome.
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TheKennedys posted:
Ironically it's the perfect medicine for Fibromyaligia.
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TheKennedys posted:
I'm amazed how cheap that is...they could easily charge a fuckton more
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im pooping! posted:Organic milk goes through a different pasteurization process that heats it at a higher temperature. Generally this is because several companies buy the milk from the same supplier so the supplier has a lot of milk that needs to stay on the shelf for quite a while. By the time you buy it in a carton, the expiration date is like 3 months later. Tastes fine and lasts longer.
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Croccers posted:Is it anything like UHT milk? Because you can totally tell the difference in UHT milk to regular pasteurised milk. Actually it is UHT milk, but I can't tell the difference and I don't drink as much milk anyway as I used to, so it's perfect for me. Works great with oreos.
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stringball posted:I'm amazed how cheap that is...they could easily charge a fuckton more I reckon they don't because it does nothing. If it cost a lot more, you'd notice it was costing heaps for no effect. This way they can sell a lot because people value low priced things less and wouldn't notice the inefficacy - especially if they directions were to: take 4-8 per day and notice effects four weeks after beginning treatment. Bottle contains 1 weeks worth
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Isn't it a psychological thing where if you've dumped a lot of money into something, you'll force yourself to see a difference? They could definitely charge more.Bip Roberts posted:Ironically it's the perfect medicine for Fibromyaligia. Actually, going off of the wikipedia page, I'm pretty sure the perfect medicine for Fibromyalgia is 
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Isn't it a psychological thing where if you've dumped a lot of money into something, you'll force yourself to see a difference? They could definitely charge more. It's related to the sunk cost fallacy, I think. "Well I've already spent $X on this and I'd hate to waste that so I need to spend $X more!" Part of what scammers do, really. "Hey you just haven't used it long enough! Here, have another bottle, I'll even knock a few bucks off. You're welcome!" The joke is that most people that have fibromyalgia...well...don't. It can be incredibly debilitating and awful for those that actually have it but so many people diagnosed themselves with it that it's safe to assume that anybody that tells you they have it doesn't.
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im pooping! posted:Actually it is UHT milk, but I can't tell the difference and I don't drink as much milk anyway as I used to, so it's perfect for me. Works great with oreos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwwcU2c3u4
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It's related to the sunk cost fallacy, I think. "Well I've already spent $X on this and I'd hate to waste that so I need to spend $X more!" Part of what scammers do, really. "Hey you just haven't used it long enough! Here, have another bottle, I'll even knock a few bucks off. You're welcome!" No it is am actual measurable effect. If someone paid more for something or even think it is more expensive it tastes/works better. Name brand pain relievers actually work better than generic because of this, and it is practically the entire basis of the high end wine industry. Human brains and the placebo effect are very complex and downright strange and should not be discounted.
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Shifty Pony posted:No it is am actual measurable effect. If someone paid more for something or even think it is more expensive it tastes/works better. Name brand pain relievers actually work better than generic because of this, and it is practically the entire basis of the high end wine industry. Human brains and the placebo effect are very complex and downright strange and should not be discounted. The wine industry example is great because once in a while you'll see a Dateline-esque show or sometimes even a local news affiliate run a blind test with professional wine tasters and they always get everything wrong. "That wine you said you wouldn't pay more than five bucks a bottle for? That's a $450 a bottle [rare wine name] you just drank!" Of course, when they can read the bottle (and the pricetag), they suddenly recognize the nuanced flavors, delectable aroma, etc.
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Ever seen a sponsored captcha? I just did!  
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bradzilla posted:Ever seen a sponsored captcha? I just did! I have to admit that's a pretty clever way to force someone to acknowledge an advertisement while fulfilling an unrelated technical requirement. I'd rather deal with one of those than the captchas that skew the text so much that I give up on reaching the content I was looking for.
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The thing that bugs me is reloading a captcha four or five times and still getting incomprehensible gibberish and realizing that, y'know, it might be possible for some kind of computer algorithm to make sense of this poo poo but there's no way a human could.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTidn2dBYbY I'm sorry Puggs, but the thread your looking for is in another castle.
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Iron Crowned posted:I'm sorry Puggs, but the thread your looking for is in another castle. Too many tabs open... Has Brands Saying Bae been posted here yet? It's a nice deposity of marketers trying (and failing at) youth outreach.
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bradzilla posted:Ever seen a sponsored captcha? I just did! 
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This is exactly the first thing that came to mind, but I wasn't sure how to find the image. GOTTA STAY FAI posted:The wine industry example is great because once in a while you'll see a Dateline-esque show or sometimes even a local news affiliate run a blind test with professional wine tasters and they always get everything wrong. "That wine you said you wouldn't pay more than five bucks a bottle for? That's a $450 a bottle [rare wine name] you just drank!" Ugh, I hate the wine industry. It's basically a competition for connoisseurs to see who can taste more stuff, and they often end up fabricating tastes to do so. Looking up wine reviews you get so many tasting notes, but very few of them collude. In fact, wines that have subtler and subtler tastes are praised, so those who can "taste" those subtleties get to be more elitist. Craft beer may be a ripoff, but at least there's a discernible difference between most of them.
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:The wine industry example is great because once in a while you'll see a Dateline-esque show or sometimes even a local news affiliate run a blind test with professional wine tasters and they always get everything wrong. "That wine you said you wouldn't pay more than five bucks a bottle for? That's a $450 a bottle [rare wine name] you just drank!" I think the funniest thing I ever read was a report that amounted to "wine tasters are completely 100% full of poo poo." They'd serve exactly the same wine to the same guy in two bottles, one would look fancy and one would not, and the fancy bottle would get a higher rating. They couldn't even tell it was the same wine. To make things even more hilarious apparently they served some wine tasters white wine with red food coloring and they were like "mmm, this is a good red wine!" It's up there with the hardcore audiophiles that couldn't tell the difference between the highest end, most expensive cables and a random wire coat hanger a guy grabbed out of his closet that morning.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It's up there with the hardcore audiophiles that couldn't tell the difference between the highest end, most expensive cables and a random wire coat hanger a guy grabbed out of his closet that morning. quote:We gathered up a 5 of our audio buddies. We took my "old" Martin Logan SL-3 (not a bad speaker for accurate noise making) and hooked them up with Monster 1000 speaker cables (decent cables according to the audio press). We also rigged up 14 gauge, oxygen free Belden stranded copper wire with a simple PVC jacket. Both were 2 meters long. They were connected to an ABX switch box allowing blind fold testing. Volume levels were set at 75 Db at 1000K Hz. A high quality recording of smooth, trio, easy listening jazz was played (Piano, drums, bass). None of us had heard this group or CD before, therefore eliminating biases. The music was played. Of the 5 blind folded, only 2 guessed correctly which was the monster cable. (I was not one of them). This was done 7 times in a row! Keeping us blind folded, my brother switched out the Belden wire (are you ready for this) with simple coat hanger wire! Unknown to me and our 12 audiophile buddies, prior to the ABX blind test, he took apart four coat hangers, reconnectd them and twisted them into a pair of speaker cables. Connections were soldered. He stashed them in a closet within the testing room so we were not privy to what he was up to. This made for a pair of 2 meter cables, the exact length of the other wires. The test was conducted. After 5 tests, none could determine which was the Monster 1000 cable or the coat hanger wire. Further, when music was played through the coat hanger wire, we were asked if what we heard sounded good to us. All agreed that what was heard sounded excellent, however, when A-B tests occured, it was impossible to determine which sounded best the majority of the time and which wire was in use. Needless to say, after the blind folds came off and we saw what my brother did, we learned he was right...most of what manufactures have to say about their products is pure hype. It seems the more they charge, the more hyped it is.
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TheKennedys posted:
That reminds me of how the drug Lyrica used to advertise a lot for the relief of Fibromyalgia then all of a sudden the ads were for "diabetic nerve pain."
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If you can tell the difference between a red and a white wine your mouth is broken.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I think the funniest thing I ever read was a report that amounted to "wine tasters are completely 100% full of poo poo." They'd serve exactly the same wine to the same guy in two bottles, one would look fancy and one would not, and the fancy bottle would get a higher rating. They couldn't even tell it was the same wine. To make things even more hilarious apparently they served some wine tasters white wine with red food coloring and they were like "mmm, this is a good red wine!"
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Strudel Man posted:White-dyed-red and price. Wine perception is all hype. My boss recently bought me a 300 CHF case (6 bottles) of red wine. I tried very hard to tell the difference between that wine and the 10 CHF 3L box of wine I already had and I just couldn't. The only difference was the box wine left a lot of debris or whatever behind in the cup, but otherwise I thought they tasted close enough to the same. Of course I told him it was the best I ever had, but I'll stick with boxed if I feel the need to drink wine when I'm paying because it's all the same.
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This seems to be mainly a US thing. Most of the people I've met in the UK who have it were diagnosed in the same way I was, by a rheumatology specialist in hospital. Some people I've spoken to in the US seem to have looked up the symptoms on a website and decided they have it  . Is it a healthcare difference, as ours is (to all intents & purposes) free? Speaking to medical professionals from the US at Pain conferences(I used to be a medical scientist), it seems like self diagnosis is a big thing over there.
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actually i think people just want to get hosed up on pain medication
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im pooping! posted:actually i think people just want to get hosed up on pain medication Yup, the only person I knew who claimed to have it (self-diagnosed, of course) was a total pillhead. She also once tried to get a prescription because she chopped some jalapenos and her poor wittle fingers were burning 
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One Eye Open posted:Is it a healthcare difference, as ours is (to all intents & purposes) free? Speaking to medical professionals from the US at Pain conferences(I used to be a medical scientist), it seems like self diagnosis is a big thing over there. It largely is a cost thing. I have excellent insurance so I pay $20 for a doctor's visit and $30 for a specialist but many insurance plans won't even begin to kick in until you have shelled out in excess of $2000. There is also no guarantee of paid leave to see a doctor. Then even for those that do have paid leave there is a good bit of American workaholism which keeps people from taking time off.
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Count Boblo posted:I guess this isn't advertising exactly, since I never saw any of this company's ads, but I briefly worked as a temp for a upscale lawn furniture company. It quickly became obvious to me that these items were actually pretty lovely, just made to look incredibly fancy with faux marble, etc. Also, the fact they were manufactured in China always raises some red flags. Anyway, I was looking at the shipping manifest one day when we had some stuff come in, and I noticed that the average price that this company was paying to get this furniture was about $10 an item. Out of curiosity, I decided to look up how much they were being sold for on the website. I support some ecommerce shops and the prices they sell their products for are insane - I was given a 50% off voucher, and bought myself a jacket which was discounted from £150 to £110, so with the discount - £55, seems ok-ish. Afterwards, looked the cost price (to manufacture and transport) in the database - £35.
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I wonder if the thing where red and white wine can't be told apart applies to cheap, lovely wine? Because I could definitely see that with good wine, but bad red wine is bad in a different way to bad white wine. Or maybe that's just a temperature thing, since red's served warm and white cold?
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Tiggum posted:I wonder if the thing where red and white wine can't be told apart applies to cheap, lovely wine? Because I could definitely see that with good wine, but bad red wine is bad in a different way to bad white wine. Or maybe that's just a temperature thing, since red's served warm and white cold? The wine thing is absurd, even as a causal box wine drinker I can absolutely say that most cases, red and white wines have very distinctly different flavors. I am sure there are types of red or white that taste closer to the other but like, anyone with taste buds can tell a risling from a merlot.
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One Eye Open posted:This seems to be mainly a US thing. Most of the people I've met in the UK who have it were diagnosed in the same way I was, by a rheumatology specialist in hospital. Some people I've spoken to in the US seem to have looked up the symptoms on a website and decided they have it It's a lot of factors. One of them is absolutely cost. We don't have universal health care like at all so a lot of people try to doctor themselves. We also have a culture that encourages being a special snowflake and other such related nonsense. We also have a complete lack of regulations on a lot of things and a massive alt med scene. The snake oil salesmen are always buttering people up and telling people that they know better than their doctors. We also culturally hate failure so any excuse to say it isn't your fault you aren't a CEO is pounced on. We give disabled people a pass so if a person can diagnose themselves with a debilitating illness and get people to believe them then they get a pass.
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One Eye Open posted:This seems to be mainly a US thing. Most of the people I've met in the UK who have it were diagnosed in the same way I was, by a rheumatology specialist in hospital. Some people I've spoken to in the US seem to have looked up the symptoms on a website and decided they have it It is, and the ads for medication are everywhere. Once you've seen the same medication ad that lists the symptoms several times in one hour I can totally see someone going WAIT I HAVE ALL OF THOSE and rushing to call their doctor. That was one of the biggest differences I noticed moving from the UK to the US. Pill ads everywhere! 
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Yeah, here in the US at least, there's a strange bandwagon approach to having terrible, crippling diseases and disorders. The harder it is to actually pin down what causes them, the easier it seems to be to self-diagnose these things, whether it's fibro, or gluten allergies, or hell, even autism. It's been my experience that probably about half the people that say they have these issues, whether they're nut allergies or ADD, are completely looking for attention. About 40% are hypochondriacs looking for reasons they're sick, and 10% actually have the disease or disorder. Unfortunately this turns things around and bites everyone on the rear end, because at least half the people that get told about someone's condition immediately think they're in that 9/10 group that are making things up, regardless of if they are or not. Which is how you get people like chefs that lie about how they cook their food just to shut people up. It's incredibly stupid, and creates a society that's absolutely unbearable.
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Choco1980 posted:Yeah, here in the US at least, there's a strange bandwagon approach to having terrible, crippling diseases and disorders. The harder it is to actually pin down what causes them, the easier it seems to be to self-diagnose these things, whether it's fibro, or gluten allergies, or hell, even autism. It's been my experience that probably about half the people that say they have these issues, whether they're nut allergies or ADD, are completely looking for attention. About 40% are hypochondriacs looking for reasons they're sick, and 10% actually have the disease or disorder. Unfortunately this turns things around and bites everyone on the rear end, because at least half the people that get told about someone's condition immediately think they're in that 9/10 group that are making things up, regardless of if they are or not. Which is how you get people like chefs that lie about how they cook their food just to shut people up. It's incredibly stupid, and creates a society that's absolutely unbearable. That's how you wind up with people like Megan, here.  Holy poo poo how the gently caress is she alive still?
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