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Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

reminder that the studies all say there's a precipitous drop in accidents when 30% or more cars on the road are automated, and say nothing about what happens leading up to that 30%

i assume they include in that lead-up all the fatalities caused because someone didn't wrap their goto statement in curly braces or whatever

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:08

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Beast of Bourbon: Sep 25, 2013; Pillbug

how many more people does google need to kill for this program to finally stop?

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:10

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

Beast of Bourbon posted:

how many more people does google need to kill for this program to finally stop?

i'm going to guess "one" would be a good lower bound

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:12

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

Dessert Rose posted:

gently caress families, all hail the technocracy

families are a bourgeoisie construct meant to deflect and distract individuals from embracing true juche

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:15

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

Condiv posted:

i'm curious if they're even testing these things in anything but the best circumstances (good sunny weather, no rain, wind, or ice, clean streets, etc.). i remember them having trouble with construction zones and locking up because of them

afaik they haven't moved substantially beyond millimeter-level mapping of roads and the assumption that nothing unexpected ever happens while driving ever

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:18

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

duTrieux. posted:

afaik they haven't moved substantially beyond millimeter-level mapping of roads and the assumption that nothing unexpected ever happens while driving ever

We will never have self-driving cars.

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:20

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Citizen Tayne posted:

We will never have self-driving cars.

tori's actually very correct here.

Anyways we have virtually self-driving cars but they only need 1 driver per 50 people. its called the T. take it

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:28

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

self driving cars will be like in iRobot where will smith is in the tunnel working on the case while the car drives itself and then he has to take manual control cause of the goddamn robots.

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:35

rjmccall: Sep 7, 2007; no worries friend; Fun Shoe

Shaggar posted:

self driving cars will be like in iRobot where will smith is in the tunnel working on the case while the car drives itself and then he has to take manual control cause of the goddamn robots.

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:43

Forums Terrorist: Dec 8, 2011

trains should all be turned to scrap imo

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:44

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

Jonny 290 posted:

tori's actually very correct here.

Anyways we have virtually self-driving cars but they only need 1 driver per 50 people. its called the T. take it

The problem is that most of what you do while driving is done automatically because you've been doing it long enough. you don't think about it. Driving seems simple enough to anyone who's had a license for a while, but it is probably the most complicated activity any given person will probably do in their lifetime.

so yeah, you can't just look at something like that and "disrupt" it, not without a lot more work than you think and probably better technology than we have.

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:49

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

and thats the glory of transit. You are able to use one person's reaction time and braking skills and coordination to move fifty people.

self driving cars can't even come close to it

# ? Jun 8, 2015 19:59

Bhodi: Dec 9, 2007; Oh, it's just a cat.; Pillbug

Citizen Tayne posted:

so yeah, you can't just look at something like that and "disrupt" it, not without a lot more work than you think and probably better technology than we have.

Sure you can, there's a slave labor pool lining up to take you places for under a dollar a mile right now

# ? Jun 8, 2015 20:05

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Citizen Tayne posted:

I can't wait until a google "engineer" accidentally flips the transit mode on the hidden internal Google Maps app to Transit and one of those cute little cars squishes someone into paste trying to get down the escalator to use BART.

lol

# ? Jun 8, 2015 20:39

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Dessert Rose posted:

cannot wait for the day when it is illegal for a human to operate a multi ton machine capable of moving fast enough to kill other humans instantly

but what about getting a chance to drive a train?

# ? Jun 8, 2015 20:41

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Citizen Tayne posted:

I can't wait until a google "engineer" accidentally flips the transit mode on the hidden internal Google Maps app to Transit and one of those cute little cars squishes someone into paste trying to get down the escalator to use BART.

stands to reason any AI developed by Google would also appreciate trains

# ? Jun 8, 2015 20:43

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Bhodi posted:

Sure you can, there's a slave labor pool lining up to take you places for under a dollar a mile right now

why not just crowdsource remote driving and use natural instead of artificial intelligence

an app that connects your car with an independent contractor anywhere in the world to drive it for you for only pennies per mile plus a $1/trip safe rides fee

# ? Jun 8, 2015 20:47

Main Paineframe: Oct 27, 2010

Shakespearean Beef posted:

The article herein clearly states that none of the accidents are the fault of the google car. These accidents would have occurred regardless of whether it was an Autonomous Vehicle or a regular drivered one. I hardly see how this is an 'epic fail' for Google.

what about the one where a goog car saw somebody running a stop sign and automatically braked...presumably while it was in the middle of the intersection, because the test driver hit the manual override as soon as he realized the car was trying to stop, but wasn't able to evade in time to avoid being tboned

# ? Jun 8, 2015 20:51

qntm: Jun 17, 2009

eschaton posted:

why not just crowdsource remote driving and use natural instead of artificial intelligence

an app that connects your car with an independent contractor anywhere in the world to drive it for you for only pennies per mile plus a $1/trip safe rides fee

this, but also mount the camera on a pole above and behind the vehicle so they can drive from a third-person perspective

# ? Jun 8, 2015 20:59

EMILY BLUNTS: Jan 1, 2005

Jonny 290 posted:

and thats the glory of transit. You are able to use one person's reaction time and braking skills and coordination to move fifty people.

self driving cars can't even come close to it

no, but an errant self driving car could "move" about a dozen people, which isn't too bad.

# ? Jun 8, 2015 21:00

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

EMILY BLUNTS posted:

no, but an errant self driving car could "move" about a dozen people, which isn't too bad.

Breaking: Google car footage

# ? Jun 8, 2015 21:07

Wild EEPROM: Jul 29, 2011; oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

what happened to the leap bus

# ? Jun 8, 2015 21:14

Bhodi: Dec 9, 2007; Oh, it's just a cat.; Pillbug

Wild EEPROM posted:

what happened to the leap bus

http://m.sfgate.com/business/article/Leap-Transit-shut-down-by-the-state-for-operating-6276298.php

dammit that article's missing their really funny spin, let me see if I can find it

e:

quote:

The company, which identifies itself on Facebook as a "Computers/Technology" service, posted last night that it would suspend its buses as permitting has been "held up due to various clerical issues.

# ? Jun 8, 2015 21:16

Munkeymon: Aug 14, 2003; Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.

Condiv posted:

goog cars have been in double the accidents per mile than the average human (even counting their cumulative miles). this indicates that google cars are causing accidents via their behavior

if their behavior involves following the rules of the road to the letter without any deviation then yeah that'd be pretty unexpected out on the actual road and I could see how that'd cause accidents

# ? Jun 8, 2015 21:27

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

in traffic engineering we call them crashes b/c "accident" implies that the collision was an unavoidable act of god instead of a human yakking on their phone and turning a child into muck

# ? Jun 8, 2015 21:59

Clockwerk: Apr 6, 2005

i wish that mentality could catch on in society.

would also like to see less use of the term 'fighting cancer', so we stop pretending there's nothing to do about it until you have it, and can instead start focusing on reducing its prevalence

# ? Jun 8, 2015 22:18

Munkeymon: Aug 14, 2003; Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.

also cancer 'survivor' - there's a reason they say it's 'in remission' and not 'cured'

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

in traffic engineering we call them crashes b/c "accident" implies that the collision was an unavoidable act of god instead of a human yakking on their phone and turning a child into muck

eh there are still actual accidents tho they're prolly vastly outnumbered by exactly what you're describing

# ? Jun 8, 2015 22:50

EMILY BLUNTS: Jan 1, 2005

there was a big truck route not far from here where something insane like 20 trucks tipped over in 18 months
because part of the turn wasn't designed right and the trucks would fall to the outside

# ? Jun 8, 2015 22:54

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

i suspect its police lingo - calling them accidents means they can file their official reports without assigning blame one way or the other

# ? Jun 8, 2015 22:55

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

always blame police imo

# ? Jun 8, 2015 22:57

oh no blimp issue: Feb 23, 2011

FMguru posted:

i suspect its police lingo - calling them accidents means they can file their official reports without assigning blame one way or the other

traffic incident

# ? Jun 8, 2015 22:59

Bhodi: Dec 9, 2007; Oh, it's just a cat.; Pillbug

remember, it's always "a" dildo found in the luggage, not "their" dildo

# ? Jun 8, 2015 23:05

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Bhodi posted:

remember, it's always "a" dildo found in the luggage, not "their" dildo

in the event of a dildo

# ? Jun 8, 2015 23:12

syscall girl: Nov 7, 2009; by FactsAreUseless; Fun Shoe

indefinite dildo

# ? Jun 8, 2015 23:13

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Clockwerk posted:

i wish that mentality could catch on in society.

would also like to see less use of the term 'fighting cancer', so we stop pretending there's nothing to do about it until you have it, and can instead start focusing on reducing its prevalence

easier said than done pal

# ? Jun 8, 2015 23:19

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

Bhodi posted:

remember, it's always "a" dildo found in the luggage, not "their" dildo

this would concern me, actually. i'd be all, 'wait, a dildo? not my dildo? who the gently caress has been monkeying with my dildo?"

# ? Jun 8, 2015 23:44

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Clockwerk posted:

i wish that mentality could catch on in society.

would also like to see less use of the term 'fighting cancer', so we stop pretending there's nothing to do about it until you have it, and can instead start focusing on reducing its prevalence

Munkeymon posted:

also cancer 'survivor' - there's a reason they say it's 'in remission' and not 'cured'

eh there are still actual accidents tho they're prolly vastly outnumbered by exactly what you're describing

it's all victim blaming b/c the idea of just being randomly, uncontrollably struck down by cancer is p uncomfortable for many folks

so instead you can obliquely blame the cancer victim's lifestyle or actions or "lack of will to live" or other things that you yourself could maybe control

but yea it's crazy annoying and i have absolutely no problem correcting people on it

# ? Jun 8, 2015 23:47

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?