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That subway map is pretty bad in vanilla. Almost as bad as murder street. IIRC I would advance up the far left side so as to only activate aliens to the left of the subway, fight them there (assaults were invaluable for crossing the gaps in cover) then occupy the subway cars and fight from 'high' ground.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:Send your MECs down the middle, have a squad sight sniper in the back, rest of your team supports the MECs. MECs are awesome. I hope you're not doing this on vanilla. Well any map can be handled once you have options. This was like my third mission so I just had rookies and squaddies. All I've done is splat impossible runs today. Haven't even made it out of the first month. I even had one where the first mission went literally perfectly; all meld obtained, all soldiers get kills, no injuries. Next mission the giant bar and I revealed 9 sectoids with one move 
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How do I put the Arc Thrower in the pistol slot in Long War? It says that comment/uncomment thing in the .ini file but I'm a big stupid person and I don't know what that means.  On another note, is there any way to fiddle with Battle Rifle accuracy or some of the stats on the armor?
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Jun 13, 2015 03:12
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Jesus loving christ exploding tanks on the military base deal 15 damage, and they're all arranged on easily accessible rows. RIP.
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How do you do interception in long war again? I know the pilots gain exp, but I don't know what weapons actually work now.
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Jun 13, 2015 03:18
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Phobophilia posted:Jesus loving christ exploding tanks on the military base deal 15 damage, and they're all arranged on easily accessible rows. I wasn't aware those could even blow up!
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Lotish posted:I wasn't aware those could even blow up! Not only do they blow up, but you can conveniently explode every last stinkin' one at once with a danger zone rocket if I remember right. And it's stupidly hard to find a safe place for a danger zone rocket to get shot given that those tanks are you're best cover/concealment and so tight together.
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Jun 13, 2015 03:24
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That military base was my first terror mission. Watching my poorly equipped soldier get gutted by my first chrysalid encounter really screwed with my head. Especially when she came back as a zombie. That's when I figured out lasers are really important early on, at least in vanilla. Nowadays I'm always antsy on that map, even though I'm not quite as terrible at the game. bobtheconqueror fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jun 13, 2015 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:How do you do interception in long war again? I know the pilots gain exp, but I don't know what weapons actually work now. The missiles have different damage and armor penetration. I have no idea if this is actually outdated or not but it's been what I use. For general Interceptor stuffs: http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Hangar_(Long_War)#Interceptors And this one tells you which missiles to use against which UFO type: http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=UFOs_(Long_War)
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Serious Frolicking posted:How do you do interception in long war again? I know the pilots gain exp, but I don't know what weapons actually work now. Rush advanced lasers to equip your interceptors with. Alternatively use this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/319mr9/lw_mod_v2_modify_air_game_stats/
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Amanasleep has given some pretty detailed advice on the air game in the past. The cliff notes for the early game are to use avalanche missiles, only go for scouts and raiders with aggressive stance to down them consistently and to avoid fighters shooting down your satellites.
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dyzzy posted:Amanasleep has given some pretty detailed advice on the air game in the past. Keep in mind that even if you do this, hunt missions to shoot down your sats can still be spawned independently, but are unlikely in the early months when alien resources and xcom threat level are low. It is valuable to invest in satellites early even if you don't go for aggressive expansion. Having a spare satellite prevents a random hunter from stunting your early development, and is never a waste of money since you can use it for later expansion.
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Lotish posted:Fight for the Space Needle! I wish Firaxis would make Civ their 'thing', where you get the wonders in every game they make. The incredibly extensive list of major buildings and natural sites is kind of one of the things that really sticks with me. If Xcom had the space needle, vatican, great wall of china, osaka castle, stonehenge etc as terror sites or something, it'd be fun. Especially if there was some mystery about why the aliens are so interested in these areas that purportedly only have historical significance that would be of interest to humans. Star control 2 had a bit about that I always liked; how the human race was beaten by aliens, and they blew up any ancient structure older than X number of years, including a stretch of ocean that nobody knew wtf that was about as part of a ritual of control/humiliation or something more sinister. It's fun. Like pull in some of the ancient aliens stuff, a little bit. Maybe they want to erase traces of our Cydonian past! And also you get the landmark as an interesting battleground.
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Lotish posted:I wasn't aware those could even blow up! It traditionally requires an explosion to set them up. The last I've seen it happen was when an EXALT assault threw a grenade at my covert operative while he was using a tank for cover. I hauled rear end away from it because I was like "Oh THAT is ending poorly." The EXALT operative took his place on the next turn and promptly got his rear end blown up by the detonating tank. 
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Coolguye posted:It traditionally requires an explosion to set them up. The last I've seen it happen was when an EXALT assault threw a grenade at my covert operative while he was using a tank for cover. I hauled rear end away from it because I was like "Oh THAT is ending poorly." One time I blew up a tank and I swear it produced a sound like a cartoon xylophone being dropped. I couldn't stop laughing for a solid minute! I wish I could extract the audio files to find out if I was hallucinating or not.
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Jun 13, 2015 07:32
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Tanks: notorious for blowing up at the drop of a hat in a voluminous explosion.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:MECs are awesome.  TheCosmicMuffet posted:If Xcom had the space needle, vatican, great wall of china, osaka castle, stonehenge etc as terror sites or something, it'd be fun.  Just add some alien meteor thingamajigs and more port-a-potties and I can see this as a map already. Make it happen firaxis.
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Instantly made me think of a certain last season of a certain tv show with a similar setting. Yeah I think that would work.
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What order should I do research on vanilla classic? I have Lasers (except heavy) and Carapace armor, and I just finished the containment facility and the arc thrower.
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I wonder what a MECanized Viper would look like.
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Foglet posted:I wonder what a MECanized Viper would look like. 
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"we can do it", she hissed
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The endgame of Xcom2 will basically just be a Mechwarrior game
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Zzulu posted:The endgame of Xcom2 will basically just be a Mechwarrior game As someone who has very little idea about Mechwarrior, what are those giant balls dropping from the sky?
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Drop pods iirc.
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Vagon posted:As someone who has very little idea about Mechwarrior, what are those giant balls dropping from the sky? what kind of snake is that in your avatar
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:what kind of snake is that in your avatar good av + post combo
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Vagon posted:As someone who has very little idea about Mechwarrior, what are those giant balls dropping from the sky? Dropships with more mechs in them.
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:what kind of snake is that in your avatar Sorry, it's only available in the Terror from the Deep version of X-COM 2.
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I've not played LW since like B13, and I've heard that MECs have been horrendously nerfed now. Could anyone give me a quick rundown of what got changed to make them worse, so that maybe I can just ini edit them back to usefulness?
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Michaellaneous posted:Drop pods iirc. Wow, go wash your mouth with soap! I bet you even think MW2 stand for Modern Warfare 2! They're drop SHIPS not drop PODS. Sheesh, every real gamer knows that. e: obligatory Mech Commander Intro link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQPWE_M_EM
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The MEC flamethrower is pretty underrated, since it upgrades to 9 damage, is an AOE that doesn't damage meld canisters and it causes panic on non-robotic enemies including ethereals and sectoid commanders making their capture way easier. However the rocket fist improves the MEC's base movement and if you have overdrive, using the rocket fist without moving doesn't end your turn. All the MEC suit upgrades are great, I usually go with one MEC suit with rocket arm, grenades and proximity mines with the second one flamethrower, AOE healing (thin man foundry upgrades it) and proximity mines or EMP pulse. Those proximity mines are more commonly useful since they have a huge AOE, can be fired a long distance and then set off by your own explosives. I do give most of my medals to my MECs though, I don't like missing with them.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:The MEC flamethrower is pretty underrated, since it upgrades to 9 damage, is an AOE that doesn't damage meld canisters and it causes panic on non-robotic enemies including ethereals and sectoid commanders making their capture way easier. However the rocket fist improves the MEC's base movement and if you have overdrive, using the rocket fist without moving doesn't end your turn. All the MEC suit upgrades are great, I usually go with one MEC suit with rocket arm, grenades and proximity mines with the second one flamethrower, AOE healing (thin man foundry upgrades it) and proximity mines or EMP pulse. Those proximity mines are more commonly useful since they have a huge AOE, can be fired a long distance and then set off by your own explosives. I do give most of my medals to my MECs though, I don't like missing with them. Beagle's entire late game strat has become exactly that. If I remember correctly he didn't even used to build mechs, but now he rolls out 3 every mission and just stomps the aliens into the ground. Mine, grenade, punch, burn; you dead.
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Razakai posted:I've not played LW since like B13, and I've heard that MECs have been horrendously nerfed now. Could anyone give me a quick rundown of what got changed to make them worse, so that maybe I can just ini edit them back to usefulness? They're still very powerful. They just don't totally outclass psionics and officers anymore. Flamethrowers and mine-launchers are still your best bet for cleaning out big swarms.
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Batham posted:Wow, go wash your mouth with soap! I bet you even think MW2 stand for Modern Warfare 2! Dammit GOG get the Mechwarrior/commander games already 
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