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Genestealers assaulting out of reserve from table edges? No way hombre! Assault Marines assaulting out of Deep Strike Reserve? Why Not............................................................................................ its cool!
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MasterSlowPoke posted:http://elite40k.blogspot.com.au/2015/06/analysis-skyhammer-annihilation-force.html holy poo poo Moola posted:Why did they remove master of the forge? because what the gently caress is he doing killing heretics outside of the forge he needs to be forging poo poo
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Jun 13, 2015 13:16
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Lol what the gently caress 4 grav cannons in a pod, 20 grav shots, Combat squad it to get 5 boltgun shots as well. RAW thats forcing 3d6 ld checks on 4 different squads assuming they actually survive that onslaught. Assault marines come in, combat squad, assault 4 different targets. SEEMS BALANCED.
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Jun 13, 2015 13:23
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blood angels, masters of the skies, whose assault marines lost the ability to score and can't assault after deep striking 
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Jun 13, 2015 13:32
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I'm all for these unstoppable grav shenanigans if only because it might force Eldar players to not just field a Wraithknight and call it a day. Also this makes Assault Marines worthwhile, which is quite a surprise. They're still not especially dangerous but at a bare minimum tying up 2-4 enemy units for a turn or two is worth the cost.
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Jun 13, 2015 13:32
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Phyresis posted:because what the gently caress is he doing killing heretics outside of the forge he needs to be forging poo poo hes forging a narrative
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Jun 13, 2015 13:33
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Guess I'm buying some devastator boxes then
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Jun 13, 2015 13:39
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I would literally laugh in your face if someone told me IRL they thought 40k rules were anywhere near balanced or even made sense anymore IN YOUR FACE
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Jun 13, 2015 13:42
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PierreTheMime posted:I'm all for these unstoppable grav shenanigans if only because it might force Eldar players to not just field a Wraithknight and call it a day. Thing is, none of my lists have a WK in it because none of the tournaments allow it. Eldar actually have no good defense against this. Wraithlords get grav'd out, D-batteries get assaulted, tanks get grav'd out or assaulted, Dark Reapers get assaulted or pinned. Basically, Eldar must turtle around an Avatar to stop this. Boon fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Jun 13, 2015 |
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Jun 13, 2015 13:46
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Moola posted: Why did they remove master of the forge? Because they gave Techmarines the stats and options for them.
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Jun 13, 2015 13:50
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Boon posted:Thing is, none of my lists have a WK in it because none of the tournaments allow it. Eldar actually have no good defense against this. Wraithlords get grav'd out, D-batteries get assaulted, tanks get grav'd out or assaulted, Dark Reapers get assaulted or pinned. Do marines or their battle Bros still get teleport homers, and can marines with jump packs go in drop pods? Could you just buy pods for this detachment? Does it specifically forbid that?
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Jun 13, 2015 13:58
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Moola posted:hes forging a narrative Well played 
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Jun 13, 2015 14:00
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I might have missed something - but how do you guys know that the Dark Angels codex is next?
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Jun 13, 2015 14:04
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ender42 posted:I might have missed something - but how do you guys know that the Dark Angels codex is next? Apparently that codex is now out of stock on the GW site, at least the print codex is.
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Jun 13, 2015 14:15
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My uncle works at GW. He also touched me as a child. These two things are related.
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Jun 13, 2015 14:15
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:My uncle works at GW. He also touched me as a child. These two things are related. Can I use him as a reference?
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Jun 13, 2015 14:17
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Thundercloud posted:Moola posted: ok
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Jun 13, 2015 14:29
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I don't really want to be that guy but this Formation is super solid and doesn't require all that much buy-in. I'd been meaning to pick up some Assault and Devastator Marines anyway (I just have a boatload of Tacticals and Sternguard) and I think this is just the thing to go for. Painting some power armor will be a change of pace.
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Jun 13, 2015 14:40
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Boon posted:Thing is, none of my lists have a WK in it because none of the tournaments allow it. Eldar actually have no good defense against this. Wraithlords get grav'd out, D-batteries get assaulted, tanks get grav'd out or assaulted, Dark Reapers get assaulted or pinned. Lol if you think the Avatar won't eat 27 Grav shots and melt. The only defense is Scytheguard in a car because they're not likely to take wounds from bolters and are effectively unable to be charged because dat overwatch.
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Jun 13, 2015 14:43
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MasterSlowPoke posted:http://elite40k.blogspot.com.au/2015/06/analysis-skyhammer-annihilation-force.html gently caress it, returning those Orks I bought and buying this.
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Jun 13, 2015 14:43
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PierreTheMime posted:I don't really want to be that guy but this Formation is super solid and doesn't require all that much buy-in. I'd been meaning to pick up some Assault and Devastator Marines anyway (I just have a boatload of Tacticals and Sternguard) and I think this is just the thing to go for. This seems like it would look best if it was painted as a different chapter from than your primary marines. You should paint them up as "definitely Ultramarines" allies to your Salamanders.
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Jun 13, 2015 14:50
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So what happens if the Devastators hit a unit that cannot ever go to ground, but the unit fails the morale test? The "no overwatch" clause doesn't apply because you didn't pass, but you're immune to the effects of the failed test.
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Jun 13, 2015 14:57
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PierreTheMime posted:I don't really want to be that guy but this Formation is super solid and doesn't require all that much buy-in. I'd been meaning to pick up some Assault and Devastator Marines anyway (I just have a boatload of Tacticals and Sternguard) and I think this is just the thing to go for. im working on a list right now with a jump captain, this poo poo is tite
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Jun 13, 2015 15:00
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If that set was available from 3rd party places I'd be interested, but not at full price.
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Jun 13, 2015 15:03
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Hra Mormo posted:So what happens if the Devastators hit a unit that cannot ever go to ground, but the unit fails the morale test? The "no overwatch" clause doesn't apply because you didn't pass, but you're immune to the effects of the failed test. Well, they fail and nothing happens? Like you can't suppress monstrous creatures cause they don't give a flip.
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Jun 13, 2015 15:03
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raverrn posted:Lol if you think the Avatar won't eat 27 Grav shots and melt. Squad one munches the Wave Serpent. Squad two wrecks the D-Scythes. Double D-Scythe might stop it, but we're talking 640 points of investment minimum. They've literally covered all their bases on this by allowing you to pick whether you want to come in on turn 1 or turn 2 as well. It's a list without a down-side.
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Jun 13, 2015 15:08
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That formation's silly good. I think 3D6 morale tests are the only way you'll ever get pinning off though.
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Jun 13, 2015 15:10
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ender42 posted:I might have missed something - but how do you guys know that the Dark Angels codex is next? There's a picture on the web store's devastator squad page that shows a Dark Angel marine holding a grav cannon, which they currently can't take, plus that rad powerfist DA chaplain. Unrelated, I started setting up for a round of Campaignurgeon games this afternoon, and I think the only warhams I do lately is working on tables. This is 3 2x4 sheets of MDF, held up by 2x6s, on top of my dining room table, which is outside on the porch because it's summer. The other side of the boards is desert-looking, but i wanted city terrain other than the fat mat downstairs, so I did this:    The whole thing's a bit grey at the moment, but at least everything has paint on it. The boards are a flat black base, that I daubed with a rag while it was drying to work out the brush marks, then a light spray (ie, an entire can) of some textured multi-color krylong thing, then just a light dusting of the grey I used on the buildings, to tie it all together. I like the texture it gives, just enough variation to not look flat, without the ridiculous grainy sand look.
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Jun 13, 2015 15:24
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Where does it say the assault can't be in a vehicle? Just wearing jump packs does not prevent being in a vehicle I recall? Does the formation forbid it because I don't see that anywhere.
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Jun 13, 2015 15:28
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Welp, guess I need to track down more beakies and a bunch of these so I can use the formation! 
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Jun 13, 2015 15:31
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Doctor Borris posted:Where does it say the assault can't be in a vehicle? Just wearing jump packs does not prevent being in a vehicle I recall? Does the formation forbid it because I don't see that anywhere. Assault marines can only take a transport if they don't take jump packs.
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Jun 13, 2015 15:45
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Zark the Damned posted:Welp, guess I need to track down more beakies and a bunch of these so I can use the formation! Who are you, me? I really want one of those for my Sternguard but they're mad rare and upwards of 100bux when they show up.
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Jun 13, 2015 15:46
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Lungboy posted:If that set was available from 3rd party places I'd be interested, but not at full price. It is, just wait for scans.
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Jun 13, 2015 15:53
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ANAmal.net posted:There's a picture on the web store's devastator squad page that shows a Dark Angel marine holding a grav cannon, which they currently can't take, plus that rad powerfist DA chaplain. looking forward to kicking your rear end on this table today
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Jun 13, 2015 15:59
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Doctor Borris posted:Where does it say the assault can't be in a vehicle? Just wearing jump packs does not prevent being in a vehicle I recall? Does the formation forbid it because I don't see that anywhere. Jump Infantry can't go in vehicles.
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Jun 13, 2015 16:05
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Can they not go in vehicles specifically or do they count as bulky now in 7th?
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Jun 13, 2015 16:19
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Only Infantry models can board Transports unless it says otherwise in the Transport/super heavy's rules. E.g. stormraven is an exception with the dreadnoughts.
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Jun 13, 2015 16:25
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TheChirurgeon posted:looking forward to kicking your rear end on this table today Come to the Imperium's hosed up South Bronx in the next six turns if u want an rear end kicking.
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Jun 13, 2015 16:49
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That looks like a fun table to play on! Just finished another Tactical Squad! I decided to forgo transfers on these guys and try doing an all-freehand-all-the-time thing. I'm reasonably happy with the results, although it took significantly longer than just doing some decal work. Unfortunately the sergeant doesn't have his banner since my printer kicked the bucket, but if I ever get a new one he'll get a flag to wave. This was my first time getting to assemble and paint the old multipart plastic Marines from 2nd ed, and they were a joy to put together. The detail on their chestplates was pretty shallow, unfortunately, but they beat the pants off the "I love my bolter" Marines. I think the sergeant (actually a Dark Angels sergeant) is my favorite sergeant model of the era, and the metal flamer Marine might be my favorite Marine sculpt of the era. It's just such a satisfyingly chunky model, and he's posed perfectly for what he's doing.         
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Doctor Borris posted:Can they not go in vehicles specifically or do they count as bulky now in 7th? Both, although Bulky doesn't matter.
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