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mango sentinel posted:That presentation was almost completely stuff that I don't want in a fallout game Funny, that presentation was full of stuff that I genuinely think would be enjoyable in a fallout game. I love crafting and seeing it expanded like that appeals to me greatly. The weapon mod system looks great too, and I can't wait to customize the HELL out of my power armor.
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Generic Monk posted:now that your dialogue is voiced that's even less likely than ever before unfortunately Yeah hopefully that won't be the case. For me it's not that huge of a loss but I would understand if that made some people very very upset
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Volkerball posted:SPECIAL at least provides some customization that skyrim didn't have anywhere, but i hope it's not a the more you shoot guns, the higher your guns skill is kind of deal. i hope this isn't the ase becasue it never loving works properly, and I say this as someone who quite liked oblivion
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Planarch posted:It's a cool idea but I've never played an open-world RPG that didn't give you way more money than you could possibly need, so it would probably be fun but pointless. yeah, but i'd still imagine you could take all your profit and reinvest it into your settlements for a long time before you maxxed everything, which would be fun if not really a massive difference in how much stronger it makes your character.
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frajaq posted:Please expand In my days the power armor was anatomically incorrect but we didn't even care because we were in gods own isometric.
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 Nothing about skill points in the description for Intelligence.  No skills tab, button for perk chart. Sure looks like Skills got axed and we're getting constellation-style leveling. EDIT: If that's all Intelligence does now get ready for it being the new dump stat!
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Volkerball posted:my brother and i fist bumped hard as poo poo when he announced the release date Hell yeah, waiting on Amazon to put up the Pip-Boy edition preorder. I was going digital but gently caress man I'm so stoked.
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Infinity Gaia posted:
gently caress sakes, it seems like they are going the Skyrim route with character stats in Fallout 4, I was afraid of that
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Infinity Gaia posted:
oh nooooo
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SunAndSpring posted:The dialog wheel and voiced protag isn't a death sentence for roleplaying. I mean, Alpha Protocol had it and it did really good at letting you play a certain way. But I feel that if there's no skills, it would make every character feel really similar. this is probably not gonna come anywhere close to alpha protocol in terms of pure mental player choice and roleplaying, though it'll likely equal it in jank. also i love your avatar. annie 
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Infinity Gaia posted:
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that's going to make replaying as a different faction not as fun since your build is still reliant on your actions rather than leveling up and using sliders.
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Man that's unfortunate. I'm really hyped for the game, but I'm gonna miss a lot of the stuff they're dumping.
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Power armour also looks like it makes you walk slower which is great, as that is basically the only downside possible to wearing it (and hence the only bonus awarded to people not wearing it). Hopefully this becomes a kind of unbreakable canon rule that defines power armor as such (so I can run away from it) Also really hope they have clunky power armour footsteps. That was my one mod that I made for Fallout 3. You're welcome Bethesda. Flaky fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Volkerball posted:SPECIAL at least provides some customization that skyrim didn't have anywhere, but i hope it's not a the more you shoot guns, the higher your guns skill is kind of deal. According to the Pipboy, there are no separate skills from the SPECIAL menu and the perks menu. However, crafting has a weapon mod require rank 1 in science and crafting gives you XP. Most likely it's like Skyrim, except you don't have skill levels that increase with use. I'm guessing each level up gives you one point to put into a skill (which they call perks now), which either unlocks something unique automatically or opens up something unique you can spend another skill point to unlock.
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Flaky posted:Power armour also looks like it makes you walk slower which is great, as that is basically the only downside possible to wearing it (and hence the only bonus awarded to people not wearing it). Hopefully this becomes a kind of unbreakable canon rule that defines power armor as such (so I can run away from it) Could be that you have to allocate power to different systems, or maybe slow run/walk speed is a tradeoff for JETPACK MODE or something IDK
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I expected fallout4 to look like an ugly piece of poo poo but I actually though the footage looks like it could have come from this decade so congrats bethesda. i cant wait to craft retarded house bases and make horrorshow guns with my special dog and Iron Man armor. will buy day one.
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Something else about the dialogue system: It looks like it's like Mass Effect in that you don't see exactly what you'll be saying. That's not good.
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Praetorian Mage posted:Something else about the dialogue system: It looks like it's like Mass Effect in that you don't see exactly what you'll be saying. That's not good. Why isn't that good? Now they can have the character say poo poo without you needing to impulsively read a paragraph of text for every option like previous games.
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Dumping Intelligence is gonna be the new meta!
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Generic Monk posted:this is probably not gonna come anywhere close to alpha protocol in terms of pure mental player choice and roleplaying, though it'll likely equal it in jank. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f0DKR037PA Anyway, I'm calling it: there are no skills. Science! is actually just a crafting perk for energy weapons with a corresponding perk for Guns and Explosives. The only thing you'll get are perks that your SPECIAL stats allow you to obtain. Also, no Traits because Bethesda hates them for some reason.
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Praetorian Mage posted:Something else about the dialogue system: It looks like it's like Mass Effect in that you don't see exactly what you'll be saying. That's not good. wrong
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Praetorian Mage posted:Something else about the dialogue system: It looks like it's like Mass Effect in that you don't see exactly what you'll be saying. That's not good. Huh? That's the best part of the Mass Effect/Alpha Protocol dialogue wheel.
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I'll be kind of bummed if they take the skyrim route with how skills work but it was pretty easy to min max everything in FO3 and NV so maybe they can do something cool with it.
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Yaos posted:Why isn't that good? If you pick the "I'm gay" option he might say it more aggressively than you intended, like "I'm a dicksucking nancy-boy"
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Maybe they just include Skills in the Perks tab or maybe Perks are the new Skills and they canned Perks instead, which would make more sense. I barely paid attention to the +5% damage against Cazadors poo poo anyway 
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MinibarMatchman posted:I expected fallout4 to look like an ugly piece of poo poo but I actually though the footage looks like it could have come from this decade so congrats bethesda. i cant wait to craft retarded house bases and make horrorshow guns with my special dog and Iron Man armor. will buy day one. I was genuinely surprised at the seeming jump in texture quality from the initial reveal trailer. Still wasn't incredible, but it looks better.
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If the lack of skills means I can now pick up a gun off the ground and actually do some damage with it, then it's fine by me. Shooters become really lovely when you try to make your skill with a gun scale with a number instead of your own player ability. I wasn't hype for the game but watching the footage, I am now. I actually cringed a little because I didn't want to get hype for a Bethesda title. Probably my favorite new feature is that power armor actually works like an actual "powered" armor now. I'll wait for a mod that replaces VATS with slow motion though.
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If there's no perks how am I going to pick "confirmed batchelor" because it looks like the Manly Man choice for manly and totally straight bros doing manly and totally straight things?
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Catpiss Neverclean posted:Maybe they just include Skills in the Perks tab or maybe Perks are the new Skills and they canned Perks instead, which would make more sense. I barely paid attention to the +5% damage against Cazadors poo poo anyway Edit: So you buy the perk that let's you talk in public without pooping your pants and your speech skill rank goes up because your pants are not full of poop.
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megalodong posted:If there's no perks how am I going to pick "confirmed batchelor" because it looks like the Manly Man choice for manly and totally straight bros doing manly and totally straight things? What kind of bro doesn't get naked with his bros and give them sensual backrubs in a steamy sauna?
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Orange Crush Rush posted:gently caress sakes, it seems like they are going the Skyrim route with character stats in Fallout 4, I was afraid of that It doesn't look nearly as dull as skyrim tbf, although these are directed previews. I think Bethesda could excel if they just embrace the camp stupidity inherent to their games rather than 'boring interchangeable nordic man gives you a quest to kill 10 bandits, a quest so dull it was literally made by a computer.' Like keep the setting fairly serious and low-key but juxtapose it with a lot more fun stuff. Not 'zany' but imaginative poo poo like they did with the dark brotherhood in Oblivion or something. Just spitballing here.
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megalodong posted:If there's no perks how am I going to pick "confirmed batchelor" because it looks like the Manly Man choice for manly and totally straight bros doing manly and totally straight things? Repair Science Medicine Explosives Guns Energy Weapons Bloody Mess I can see this happening. I don't mind it, because skills mattered very little in Bethesda's system anyway, but if Obsidian gets their hands back in the game the percentages will be back and actually tuned properly.
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Propaganda Hour posted:Huh? That's the best part of the Mass Effect/Alpha Protocol dialogue wheel. No the best part of the alpha protocol dialogue was how it didn't give you infinite time to agonize over who you wanted to stick your e-wiener into. Okay that's not totally true but conversations in alpha protocol flowed way better because of it.
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Orv posted:I was genuinely surprised at the seeming jump in texture quality from the initial reveal trailer. Still wasn't incredible, but it looks better. it ain't ridiculous but for a current gen game, as long as it runs decent then I'll be immensely satisfied given that this came from a generation of butt loving ugly Fallout 3 assets.
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Anyway, seems like they pulled an Obsidian and implemented all the good mods from the Nexus into the base game. Good plan, really.
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frajaq posted:Dumping Intelligence is gonna be the new meta! Who cares how slow your dumb poo poo levels if he ends up being Hercules the card-counting Casanovic telescope-gymnast megalodong posted:If there's no perks how am I going to pick "confirmed batchelor" because it looks like the Manly Man choice for manly and totally straight bros doing manly and totally straight things? He's a manly manly man, young and in his prime
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Yaos posted:Why isn't that good? Now they can have the character say poo poo without you needing to impulsively read a paragraph of text for every option like previous games. IT'S NOTHING LIKE THE RPGS OF MY DAY! Real RPGs have detailed dialog choices differentiated by your gender, race, intelligence, favourite animal, they also had hundreds of skills measured in 5 digit numbers at least. Oh and of course back in the day we had no such things as voice acting, graphics or user friendly interface, this game has that so that must mean it's not a real RPG.
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