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This whole movement is a defense mechanism by weird nerds who resent getting laughed at by women, isn't it?
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protip: if you refer to your partner as your mate (and aren't, like, British), don't be surprised if they treat you like a dog.
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Jun 13, 2015 18:29
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a Dork Enlightenment stinker posted:I believe many women have a constant low-level hatred of men at a conscious or subconscious level and their narcissistic quest for entitlement and significance begrudges him any pursuit that isn't going to lead directly to producing, providing, protecting, and problem solving for her 
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Jun 13, 2015 18:49
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ArchangeI posted:protip: if you refer to your partner as your mate (and aren't, like, British), don't be surprised if they treat you like a dog. "It was arranged with her father so I knew she had a good set of genes."
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Jun 13, 2015 23:53
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He sounds like he's observing a troop of monkeys, or birds, or big cats from his hiding spot in a stand of bushes which suggests to me that he's at home hiding among bushes 
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Jun 14, 2015 02:30
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And what woman or other normal human has ever spent five seconds thinking about cryonics beyond realizing that it's stupid nonsense and a scam for morons? I sense a lot of simulation behind the author's thoughts on women.
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Jun 14, 2015 02:57
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Jack Gladney posted:And what woman or other normal human has ever spent five seconds thinking about cryonics beyond realizing that it's stupid nonsense and a scam for morons? I sense a lot of simulation behind the author's thoughts on women. It's a relatively well known thing in the cryonics community (Hostile Wife Syndrome). Woman is married to seemingly normal dude, discovers he wants to set tens of thousands of dollars on fire, is understandably upset. sat on my keys! has a new favorite as of 03:28 on Jun 14, 2015 |
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Jun 14, 2015 03:09
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Jack Gladney posted:And what woman or other normal human has ever spent five seconds thinking about cryonics beyond realizing that it's stupid nonsense and a scam for morons? I sense a lot of simulation behind the author's thoughts on women. But there was that episode of Star Trek: TNG where it totally worked and they thawed out some silly character actors!
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Jun 14, 2015 03:13
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:But there was that episode of Star Trek: TNG where it totally worked and they thawed out some silly character actors! And even there some of them didn't survive the process.
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Jun 14, 2015 03:27
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Don't forget the Voyager episode with Amelia Earhart!
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Jun 14, 2015 03:27
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bartlebyshop posted:It's a relatively well known thing in the cryonics community (Hostile Wife Syndrome). Woman is married to seemingly normal dude, discovers he wants to set tens of thousands of dollars on fire, is understandably upset. So the selfishness thing is really just the wife calling them out on spending the family's life savings on a stupid delusion quest to cheat death.
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Jun 14, 2015 03:32
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Political Whores posted:So the selfishness thing is really just the wife calling them out on spending the family's life savings on a stupid delusion quest to cheat death. Usually, cryonics "treatment" is paid for out of life insurance, so the spouse (and sometimes children) feel like he's stealing tens of thousands from his surviving family that they could use to get back on their feet after his death or at least do something productive with. I suspect people who stipulate in their wills that some large fraction of their life insurance payout goes to charity don't meet nearly the same hostility.
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Jun 14, 2015 03:38
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Does anyone have any thoughts on this article comparing and contrasting the rationalist movement, libertarians, and the Dork Enlightenment? The basic thesis seems to be that all three are forms of anti-political politics created because nerds are too  to understand, accept, or do politics so they want to replace politics with mechanistic systems following rigid rule systems (respectively, logic, the free market, and  , distorted and fetishized into forms completely divorced from reality). I think he gives them way too much slack, though. Someone like Moldbug isn't really very smart, he is a stupid person's idea of what smart people write like.
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Jun 14, 2015 03:42
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It seems plausible, though all those movements also grow out of a childish sense of entitlement that their adherents desperately try to rationalize away with dumb racism and evopsych about women not wanting to touch them or make eye contact. There was a political scientist a few years ago who did personality inventory tests with libertarians and had them do ethics tests, and the result was that they had measurable deficits in theory of mind and capacity for empathy, and that they accurately predicted that they cared less about fairness and harm to others than the people they see every day. So yeah, they're entitled spergs who expect the world to change itself to become comprehensible to their broken brains.
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Jun 14, 2015 03:55
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Jack Gladney posted:I sense a lot of simulation behind the author's thoughts on women. Look, a simulation is just as good as the real thing. Don't you understand the very basic principals of trans-humanism? If you were truly capital R Rational, you would understand that by running a Graham's number worth of simulations, we can accurately model female thought processes and state objectively that they are being irrational, and safely disregard them. If you don't understand, let's pretend that you are being mugged, but the mugger doesn't have a gun, and promises to repay you a billion dollars tomorrow if you give him your wallet now... ________/ 
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Jun 14, 2015 04:52
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Jack Gladney posted:It seems plausible, though all those movements also grow out of a childish sense of entitlement that their adherents desperately try to rationalize away with dumb racism and evopsych about women not wanting to touch them or make eye contact. I still think neoreaction seems the odd one out considering how arbitrary and irrational fascism and other dictatorships are compared to republican forms of government but it's less about what fascism is than what neoreactionaries imagine it to be.
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Jun 14, 2015 05:03
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bartlebyshop posted:Usually, cryonics "treatment" is paid for out of life insurance, so the spouse (and sometimes children) feel like he's stealing tens of thousands from his surviving family that they could use to get back on their feet after his death or at least do something productive with. I suspect people who stipulate in their wills that some large fraction of their life insurance payout goes to charity don't meet nearly the same hostility. Wait really? I always thought it was one of those "you gotta pay before you die" things since you need a team of freezer guys standing by ahead of time whenever you're planning on dying. You can really pay for it out of life insurance and gently caress over your family?
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Jun 14, 2015 05:04
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Wait really? I always thought it was one of those "you gotta pay before you die" things since you need a team of freezer guys standing by ahead of time whenever you're planning on dying. You can really pay for it out of life insurance and gently caress over your family? Most people don't have the $80,000+ on hand. It makes the whole thing especially ludicrous because by the time your death is certified you will have already started to decay. Some of the extremely rich people who want to do it have a team of guys standing by their deathbed, yeah, but if your family isn't on board that's harder to do.
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Jun 14, 2015 05:11
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I think it's legally considered a form of ritual burial in the U.S. too, so the freezer guys aren't going to be able to get your corpse much faster than the mortician. There's a lot of paperwork.
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Jun 14, 2015 05:36
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Think of all the people you could save with these idiots` organs. 
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Jun 14, 2015 05:51
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Think of all the people you could save with these idiots` organs. Severely ill people are a waste of the monarch's precious resources! It should be their organs that are harvested to save the posthuman job creators!
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Jun 14, 2015 06:08
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Think of all the people you could save with these idiots` organs. The cheapest option is head-only preservation, which is the one most of them pick, so you lose the corneas but the other organs are available.
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Jun 14, 2015 06:15
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bartlebyshop posted:The cheapest option is head-only preservation, which is the one most of them pick, so you lose the corneas but the other organs are available. As long as their brains are certified dead, I'm cool with it.
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Jun 14, 2015 06:24
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bartlebyshop posted:It makes the whole thing especially ludicrous because by the time your death is certified you will have already started to decay.
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Jun 14, 2015 06:50
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TetsuoTW posted:Also by the time your death is certified you're loving dead. If they were more honest with themselves they would realize they know this poo poo isn't any more effective than storing their organs in canopic jars for use in the next life, and that's why they don't just freeze themselves right now.
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TetsuoTW posted:Also by the time your death is certified you're loving dead. We've detected brain cell activity way after blood stopped flowing to the brain so there's at least a tiny kernel of truth behind it but technology as it is will probably gently caress your poo poo up so bad you're basically banking on a magic future where the cost of repairing your cells is free because lol if they're gonna revive the older heads out of kindness or whatever, so again Star Trek needs to be viewed as a factual account of the future for any of this to work. Also brain cells doing stuff in the brain after death freaks me the gently caress out 
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Jun 14, 2015 07:06
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:We've detected brain cell activity way after blood stopped flowing to the brain so there's at least a tiny kernel of truth behind it but technology as it is will probably gently caress your poo poo up so bad you're basically banking on a magic future where the cost of repairing your cells is free because lol if they're gonna revive the older heads out of kindness or whatever, so again Star Trek needs to be viewed as a factual account of the future for any of this to work. Even in Star Trek utopia they all froze themselves prior to death, and some of them didn't make it. In other words: Political Whores posted:If they were more honest with themselves they would realize they know this poo poo isn't any more effective than storing their organs in canopic jars for use in the next life, and that's why they don't just freeze themselves right now.
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Jun 14, 2015 07:13
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Stultus Maximus posted:I don't program so I don't know how stupid and crazy it is, but "A ship at sea is its own world. To be the captain of a ship is to be the unquestionable ruler of that world and requires all of the leadership skills of a prince or minister."
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Jun 14, 2015 08:09
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Stultus Maximus posted:What the everloving gently caress is the obsession with ships for these people?
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Woolie Wool posted:Does anyone have any thoughts on this article comparing and contrasting the rationalist movement, libertarians, and the Dork Enlightenment? The basic thesis seems to be that all three are forms of anti-political politics created because nerds are too I'm just reminded that of all rationalists, Yudkowsky had the best reaction to Moldbug because he was able to form the idea that Moldbug might be biased and not purely interpreting cold hard evidence and coming to rational conclusions.
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Jun 14, 2015 08:43
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Woolie Wool posted:nerds are too
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Stultus Maximus posted:What the everloving gently caress is the obsession with ships for these people? It's a hilariously terrible idea that assumes that "singularity = computers become infinitely powerful" which makes no sense but seems to be at the foundation of a lot of singularity weirdos, and on top of this it imposes bizarre 32-bit resource restrictions on these infinite global computers for... some... reason... Also why does everything have to have a dumb name? quote:Programs are written in a language called Hoon, which compiles into something called Nock. Nock is basically like JVM code, except for that the entire spec is designed to fit on a t-shirt. Actually it reminds me a lot of the TempleOS guy who's said such gems as "640x480 16 color? God said it was a covenant, like circumcision."
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quote:The founders have done as much as they can to make learning Hoon as counterintuitive as possible for anyone who already knows any other programming language. Literally even 0 is true and 1 is false. What kind of mad-man would do this sort of thing? 
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Ratoslov posted:What kind of mad-man would do this sort of thing? Surely if it's hard to learn that means that the fact that they understand it makes them smart by default, right? 
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Jun 15, 2015 01:08
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If Alan Turing and Ada Lovelace used 1 for true and 0 for false, then clearly the patriarchal neomonarchists must do the opposite.
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Jun 15, 2015 01:25
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Surely if it's hard to learn that means that the fact that they understand it makes them smart by default, right? Then Brainfuck and Whitespace are the best programming languages, right?
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Jun 15, 2015 02:19
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It's just another case of dumb people doing what they imagine smart people do in order to commandeer intelligence for themselves. It's cargo-cult knowledge mastery, like how scientologists have an entire vocabulary parallel to regular English that does a slightly worse job of communicating than does regular English.
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Tiberius Thyben posted:Then Brainfuck and Whitespace are the best programming languages, right? I know people who think they're smart for writing some toys in brainfuck and who brag about it whenever weird languages come up, so yes.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I know people who think they're smart for writing some toys in brainfuck and who brag about it whenever weird languages come up, so yes. Sever.
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Tiberius Thyben posted:Sever. They're coworkers, but I actually will be getting a new, better job here in a couple weeks so okay 
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