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Epic High Five posted:I plan on going dark to the outside world for at least a week when this drops, gonna loving own. Gonna play as an explosives/melee guy who lost his junk in the war and relies 100% on Buffout to maintain his physique and just pretend any voice work is voices in my head and do my best to ignore it yeah but then you'll find your wife and the endgame cutscene will give you 2d6 babies depending on how many procedural villages you protected to endgame, and you'll have to dream up a further story about how Enclave regenerative medicine made you whole again but you have to keep pumping that neuropozyne or Jensen's mecha-fortress will meat across the wastes to take you to heaven actually we've just come up with a better PC arc than Bethesda has ever managed, let's go with that
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Neeksy posted:I totally get that having more representation in games is something to strive for, but it seems like in the case of Fallout 4, they wanted to tell a story with a specific character in a specific situation and background. It's a departure from the previous games that allowed you to fill in those blanks, but it's not the same as "erasure". It would be worse if they didn't give any established background but also didn't enable you to express your gender/ethnicity/sexuality other than a presupposed norm. That's not what's happening here, or at least as far as we have seen. yeah i'm skeptical that it or your character really develops that much more depth. like whatever it it's not going to be a revelation or anything
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Epic High Five posted:Why not just wait 3 minutes after it drops and download the "skip intro" mod or whatever to skip right to the part where you're a faceless idiot slaughtering your way through the wastelands I dunno man, I'd rather have discussions about Fallout 3's food and how Bethesda raped, impregnated, and murdered the Fallout franchise than have goony dorks try to discuss social issues they have no experience with. At least with the first two, you can have some sort of discussion and moderate opinions, while any social issue chat quickly degenerates into pseudo-intellectual goons having an aneurysm over people they've never met in their lives.
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crawlkill posted:breeder is just a super fun word for straight people, for the most part factual and not quite actually offensive but something everyone notices. no idea where I picked it up, been using it for years and years. oh ok cool it just sounded reeeeealllly /r/childfree to my sleep deprived mind
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Bethesda is a bad company you shouldn't buy their terrible games. But you will.
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Generic Monk posted:yeah i'm skeptical that it or your character really develops that much more depth. like whatever it it's not going to be a revelation or anything Which is totally a practical stance to take! Skepticism is valid considering the general quality of games and mainstream cinema writing at the moment. But we can't say for certain that the decisions going in are this outrageous affront to people outside of the straight white dude audience that's normally assumed as the target for media, because the game isn't out yet. It's totally likely that the story of a straight character with a dead family will be dull and uninspired, but there's maybe the chance that they had some kind of intention behind it that made it worth doing. That said, I kinda wish the gameplay footage also included the female protagonist path just to show that it's at least somewhat gender-balanced.
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Generic Monk posted:oh ok cool it just sounded reeeeealllly /r/childfree to my sleep deprived mind needs mention of crotchspawn to be proper childfree.
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Opening scene doesn't matter. Once the bombs drop all old relationships are off. Sorry honey, old world's dead, gonna try being a wandering savior wearing power armor painted to say 'fuckboi' across the chest (Once mods come out, of course).
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Generic Monk posted:you're absolutely right but I just can't empathise with your sheer unbridled anger at it. I guess I've only seen a couple one-line posts on this thread expressing disapproval and I myself have just been trying to analyze it in terms of how it's a bad Fallout move, as opposed to how it's a bad move in general. I suspect there will be more anger in days to come, but it hasn't seemed that extreme so far. much like acknowledging Bethesda is poo poo, it's one of those things I'd probably just let drop if everyone just kind of shrugged and said "yeah, I see what you're saying." cthulhoo posted:ALL THE THINGS ...see, this is what I was talking about above. I'd be content just to wish Bethesda products didn't exist if the whole world didn't fill up with consensual adbots talking up how great they were. I can't not respond! I'm weak! closeted republican posted:I dunno man, I'd rather have discussions about Fallout 3's food and how Bethesda raped, impregnated, and murdered the Fallout franchise than have goony dorks try to discuss social issues they have no experience with. At least with the first two, you can have some sort of discussion and moderate opinions, while any social issue chat quickly degenerates into pseudo-intellectual goons having an aneurysm over people they've never met in their lives. to be strictly accurate, it's more like they sent off to Russia for a pair of twin wives, murdered the first and turned her body into House of a Thousand Corpses-esque art, then inexplicably sent the sister off to live with their gentle uncle. somehow, a loving child was born of that union, then Bethesda broke in and cut off half of Unclesidian's limbs and stole the second bride back. we don't know precisely what's going on next door yet, but last time we heard the buzzsaws and saw sparks through the garage windows, it was bad news.
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Having voice acting for the playable character was a stupid loving decision for an open world game.
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megalodong posted:needs mention of crotchspawn to be proper childfree. let me tell u about fallout 4, three times raped crotchspawn of zenimax,
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actually come to think of it the predefined background not only flies in the face of fallout tradition but also bethesda tradition. who from either fanbase actually wanted something like this?
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Generic Monk posted:actually come to think of it the predefined background not only flies in the face of fallout tradition but also bethesda tradition. who from either fanbase actually wanted something like this? I wonder if we'll get to choose our starsign!
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I think the game looks great. Was fearful after the initial trailer but all those fears have been quashed.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Technically true. Exactly my point, he stated a 'fact' that he knew would be grossly misquote and misinterpret to a degree it would no long be true.
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Monster w21 Faces posted:I think the game looks great. Was fearful after the initial trailer but all those fears have been quashed. a great game for a clown to play in the circus
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cthulhoo posted:a great game I'd trust the opinion about whether something's fun or not from a clown.
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am0kgonzo posted:It's too bad Bethesda was too lazy to come up with their own terrible post apocalyptic setting and instead chose to make terrible Fallout games. 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Having voice acting for the playable character was a stupid loving decision for an open world game. This is my major complaint. I hate having a voice in a, supposedly, blank slate RPG. If they wanted this to be an open world Mass Effect clone, they could have just said so, and ran with it. Having a voice actor makes me feel like playing a character, rather than that character being my avatar. It's just not the same. It doesn't make it any less enjoyable, but it changes my perception of the game.
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Theta Zero posted:I'd trust the opinion about whether something's fun or not from a clown. Yeah, it's their job.
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Back Hack posted:Exactly my point, he stated a 'fact' that he knew would be grossly misquote and misinterpret to a degree it would no long be true. in what sense was it even technically true? was it just, like, sixfactorial different slides? as far as I can remember they always had the same narration. god, betraying the variable-endgame-slideshow conclusion was one of the most disappointing things in F3, alongside all the other most disappointing things.
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Generic Monk posted:actually come to think of it the predefined background not only flies in the face of fallout tradition but also bethesda tradition. who from either fanbase actually wanted something like this? Dudebro audience that hates to read or think. You have no idea how many people demands voice acting for every single thing.
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Monster w21 Faces posted:I think the game looks great. Was fearful after the initial trailer but all those fears have been quashed. Same, that first trailer didn't do it justice at all and lowered my interest overall for the game. The stage demo and trailer and general craziness of the "You want to gently caress poo poo up?" trailer restored that interest to the point I immediately preordered it on GMG before Todd Howard walked off the stage.
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Randomzx posted:Dudebro audience that hates to read or think. You have no idea how many people demands voice acting for every single thing. I believe it, but this just seems so crazy. even in fully voiced games where I TRY to listen to all the dialogue, I inevitably end up reading and skipping. and I don't like reading! audiobooks are my life! but there's a time and a place!
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One thing I'm curious about, having watched the presentation just now - why go to all the trouble of naming the baby, if your family supposedly gets incinerated, or dies via some other means? Seems like an awful lot of attention to detail for a short opening sequence.
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Theta Zero posted:I'd trust the opinion about whether something's fun or not from a clown. 
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mackintosh posted:One thing I'm curious about, having watched the presentation just now - why go to all the trouble of naming the baby, if your family supposedly gets incinerated, or dies via some other means? Seems like an awful lot of attention to detail for a short opening sequence. think about some retarded kotaku "game journalist" crying like a babby over this emotional overload of a scene, AAA+
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mackintosh posted:One thing I'm curious about, having watched the presentation just now - why go to all the trouble of naming the baby, if your family supposedly gets incinerated, or dies via some other means? Seems like an awful lot of attention to detail for a short opening sequence. Probably a plot twist where they're also alive or something.
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mackintosh posted:One thing I'm curious about, having watched the presentation just now - why go to all the trouble of naming the baby, if your family supposedly gets incinerated, or dies via some other means? Seems like an awful lot of attention to detail for a short opening sequence. It's almost as if there is more to the introduction than what was let on during the presentation!
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cthulhoo posted:think about some retarded kotaku "game journalist" crying like a babby over this emotional overload of a scene, AAA+ You think it's just that? Well, I suppose recording over 500 different names to appease a gaming journalist sounds like a reasonable investment.
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mackintosh posted:One thing I'm curious about, having watched the presentation just now - why go to all the trouble of naming the baby, if your family supposedly gets incinerated, or dies via some other means? Seems like an awful lot of attention to detail for a short opening sequence. you notice how HBO's Game of Thrones has been hurting more children since it started to diverge from the novels? it goes by many names: not having any ideas. emotional shorthand. a dirty blow. when in doubt, make a kid sad and/or dead. then your audience has to care! the more personal, the better! Theta Zero posted:Probably a plot twist where they're also alive or something. I can never keep track of the Fallout timeline, but aren't we well over a century after the Bomb now? I guess Bethesda put in cryogenics and stuff so who even cares
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Theta Zero posted:Probably a plot twist where they're also alive or something. This is exactly what I'm afraid of. I hope I can kill them.
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i'm sure tons of other retards would appreciate this too, might even have some itt
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crawlkill posted:in what sense was it even technically true? was it just, like, sixfactorial different slides? The end slides were part of the endings (really ending, as in singular), but not the ending themselves. By saying the game had 200 endings when he asked how many endings Fallout 3 had, he stated a fact about it but not the fact.
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What boggles my mind about this whole thing is that whenever the next game in the Fallout series rolls around, 80% of what you might've done as the previous character is lost to history, in-universe. Sure, you defeated A and saved B and known throughout the Wasteland as C, but nowhere is it memorialized the little details. Maybe it's just be, but I could never bring myself to kvetch over the role-playing part of things without a ME3-style system in place. Nobody in all of Tamriel will ever tell you what race the Nerevarine is or which guild he/she worked for the most.
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mackintosh posted:One thing I'm curious about, having watched the presentation just now - why go to all the trouble of naming the baby, if your family supposedly gets incinerated, or dies via some other means? Seems like an awful lot of attention to detail for a short opening sequence. There was the scene where you find the PipBoy that took place in the Vault, so I'm sure there's more to it than "make character, make wife, make baby, 2/3 die in the first 60 seconds of game".
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