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I like Chandra's Ignition as a mono-R board wipe. I could see it being a pretty good sideboard card in R/x Dragon decks.
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Rinkles posted:Yup. Is there a name for this limbo zone? It is on the Stack.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:00
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Rinkles posted:Yup. Is there a name for this limbo zone? The Stack.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:02
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AlternateNu posted:I like Chandra's Ignition as a mono-R board wipe. I could see it being a pretty good sideboard card in R/x Dragon decks. There's also the flavor win in that you can use Chandra's Ignition targeting Chandra, which causes Chandra to flip into a Planeswalker. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Jun 15, 2015 19:02
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Angry Grimace posted:There's also the flavor win in that you can use Chandra's Ignition targeting Chandra, which causes Chandra to flip into a Planeswalker. Which is the sign that this is part of a cycle.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:05
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Angry Grimace posted:There's also the flavor win in that you can use Chandra's Ignition targeting Chandra, which then enables Chandra to flip into a Planeswalker. Yeah but does it give her haste?
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Jun 15, 2015 19:06
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Jun 15, 2015 19:06
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Angry Grimace posted:There's also the flavor win in that you can use Chandra's Ignition targeting Chandra, which causes Chandra to flip into a Planeswalker. I wager all 5 walkers will have something like this. Nissa's Grove Sorcery Search your library for a basic forest card and put it on to the battlefield tapped. Repeat this process as many times as you like. Cost it at gggg and 
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Jun 15, 2015 19:07
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Rinkles posted:Yup. Is there a name for this limbo zone? "Resolving" is the closest term I've seen being used for it. It's still a v clunky mechanic that will probably never get edited but there's a bunch of cards that say "as this resolves". Flame wreath Phoenix I think is the latest iteration of this clunky quirk in the rules and it's different from "when this enters" mechanics, which it also has.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:10
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:I wager all 5 walkers will have something like this. I can't really envision one that would let you have 7 lands. I guess Explosive Vegetation is a legal card now, but its not exactly super awesome for much other than flipping Nissa.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:10
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Serperoth posted:The Stack. Ith posted:It is on the Stack. The effect is on the stack, not the "card".
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Jun 15, 2015 19:10
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It'll probably be a cycle of Ignitions.
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Angry Grimace posted:There's also the flavor win in that you can use Chandra's Ignition targeting Chandra, which causes Chandra to flip into a Planeswalker. This is actually pretty cool, though I don't know how they'd make it work for every other walker.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:11
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Rinkles posted:The effect is on the stack, not the "card". Remand: quote:Counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, put it into its owner's hand instead of into that player's graveyard. So the spell is an effect on the stack, and you put the effect back into your hand? What a world!
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Jun 15, 2015 19:14
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bhsman posted:This is actually pretty cool, though I don't know how they'd make it work for every other walker. Jace's Ignition Draw 4 cards, then discard 4 cards. (it could actually even just be three since Jace's ability + the card itself would get to 5). Liliana's Ignition As an additional cost to cast ~, sacrifice a creature. Return target creature card in your graveyard to the battlefield. That creature is a zombie in addition to its other types. Nissa's Ignition ?????????? I'm no card designer, but it seems like it would be pretty easy to whip up Sorceries that enable the flip conditions. Except for Nissa's. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Jun 15, 2015 19:14
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Angry Grimace posted:I can't really envision one that would let you have 7 lands. I guess Explosive Vegetation is a legal card now, but its not exactly super awesome for much other than flipping Nissa. GGGG, target a creature, search your deck for basic forests up to their CMC, put into play. Nissa costs 3, gets you 1 when she comes in, then her sorcery gets you 3 more, triggering her.
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Rinkles posted:The effect is on the stack, not the "card". The stack is an actual game zone where cards can exist, same as battlefield/hand/library/etc. quote:601.2a The player announces that he or she is casting the spell. That card (or that copy of a card) moves from where it is to the stack. [...] E: the description of the stack makes it even clearer: quote:405.1. When a spell is cast, the physical card is put on the stack (see rule 601.2a). [...] Nibble fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Jun 15, 2015 19:16
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Rinkles posted:The effect is on the stack, not the "card". Wrongo! I'm surprised you're saying this, since it was your question that started it, indicating your knowledge was iffy.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:16
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when we do Return to Magic Origins there will be a cycle of Remix to Ignitions
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Jun 15, 2015 19:17
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bhsman posted:This is actually pretty cool, though I don't know how they'd make it work for every other walker. jace and lili ignitions can just be functional reprints of tome scour and bone splinters, nissa just has to have a big ramp effect and gideon hasnt been spoiled er i cant check im on my phone but im pretty sure im remembering right that tome scour is target player
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Jun 15, 2015 19:18
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Wrongo! I'm surprised you're saying this, since it was your question that started it, indicating your knowledge was iffy. That was understanding of the stack. I appreciate being schooled.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:19
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Does everything actually have to be a same-name cycle? It seems likely to me that "Chandra's Ignition" might also be a D&D-style spell name. I hope they go that route, anyways. Wanna cast that Beleren's Disjunction.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:23
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forbidden lesbian posted:jace and lili ignitions can just be functional reprints of tome scour and bone splinters, nissa just has to have a big ramp effect and gideon hasnt been spoiled Gideon's might be a functional reprint of Assassinate
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Jun 15, 2015 19:24
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Angry Grimace posted:Jace's Ignition Nissa's Ignition 2GG Search your library for up to 3 basic land cards and put them on to the battlefield. At end of turn return 3 land cards from the battlefield to your hand.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:25
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Balon posted:Nissa's Ignition 2GG This will go great in my Modern Scapeshift EDH
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Jun 15, 2015 19:26
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Angry Grimace posted:Jace's Ignition Sorcery Search your library for up to three lands and put them into play tapped.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:27
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TheKingofSprings posted:Gideon's might be a functional reprint of Assassinate Gideon is just going to be a color shifted Norrit.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:30
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Yawgmoth posted:Nissa's Ignition 2GG Not sure if this is different enough from Explosive Vegetation though. It just seems like the same thing except you get three for the same CMC (albeit more color requirements). Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Jun 15, 2015 19:32
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Boco_T posted:when we do Return to Magic Origins there will be a cycle of Remix to Ignitions D.O.N.T
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Jun 15, 2015 19:46
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Yawgmoth posted:Nissa's Ignition 2GG It would have to be basic lands or it would be broken as hell.
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I think the green ignition would just put them into your hand. 3 mana draw 3 lands isn't an awful card to be honest. That or it would be 5 mana and get you 3 forests into play. They've done 2 mana for 1, 4 mana for 2, but I do not think there is a card that gets you exactly 3 lands, and 5 seems fair for it. (at 6 you have the thing that doubles the # of lands you have?)
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Jun 15, 2015 19:47
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Boco_T posted:when we do Return to Magic Origins there will be a cycle of Remix to Ignitions And now I have a R. Kelly song stuck in my head. Now I'm pissed.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:47
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Angry Grimace posted:Not sure if this is different enough from Explosive Vegetation though. It just seems like the same thing except you get three for the same CMC (albeit more color requirements). Uh, isn't vegetation basic lands only?. I can't see them printing 2GG search up to 3 lands (any) and put them into play tapped. Holy poo poo no.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:52
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chandra's ignition choosing dragonlord ojutai seems good, especially since it kills their ojuta e: his on hit is combat damage 5 to everything keeping your hexproof finisher is the good part :I
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Jun 15, 2015 19:55
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black potus posted:chandra's ignition choosing dragonlord ojutai seems good, especially since it kills their ojutai Probably better than most other dragon targets at the least. Everyone seems to be busy thinking of R/G Dragons with Atarka.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:56
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Angry Grimace posted:Not sure if this is different enough from Explosive Vegetation though. It just seems like the same thing except you get three for the same CMC (albeit more color requirements). Instant Put three forest tokens into play. These all have "at end of turn, sacrifice this."
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Jun 15, 2015 19:57
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Rinkles posted:That was understanding of the stack. I appreciate being schooled. I was gonna make a snarky comment about how you shouldn't post if you don't know, but I like your attitude towards education. 
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Jun 15, 2015 20:00
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Chandra's Ignition will be an EDH superstar with cards that do wither, infect, lifelink etc.
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Jun 15, 2015 20:01
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Serperoth posted:I was gonna make a snarky comment about how you shouldn't post if you don't know, but I like your attitude towards education. Snarky comments are kind of what rabidsquid was talking about. Unless the other person's being a jerk, don't be one yourself (unless its particularly funny)
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I love the flavor hit of Chandra's Ignition so much.
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