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zedprime posted:Howard-sensei is so brilliant he would become like the Master instead of a normal super mutant. You can join us... Or die.... Join... Die! Die! Die! Choose...
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SunAndSpring posted:I'm hoping they made up new factions that actually have a background beyond "They're good guys" or "They're jerks" like the Regulators and Talon Company in 3. Also I hope the Brotherhood isn't a bunch of white knights again that you have to side with. Likewise, but this being Bethesda, welp. 
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King Vidiot posted:Fallout 3 wasn't gray or brown, it was green. My favorite thing about the Fallout 4 E3 presentation was that I didn't see an obvious omnipresent color filter that made everything look way worse. Things were actually their own colors, and it looked nice.
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Jun 15, 2015 21:55
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I hope that the Institute is a faction that sees using androids as cheap labor as a good way to build a stable and functioning society for humans, even if some androids might not like being slaves, instead of a bunch of evil assholes who want to gently caress the Boston wasteland with their robot dicks.
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SunAndSpring posted:a bunch of evil assholes who want to gently caress the Boston wasteland with their robot dicks. Yeah, reserve this for the player character, I feel. Assuming the player really is an android, anyway.
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Jun 15, 2015 21:57
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SunAndSpring posted:I hope that the Institute is a faction that sees using androids as cheap labor as a good way to build a stable and functioning society for humans, even if some androids might not like being slaves, instead of a bunch of evil assholes who want to gently caress the Boston wasteland with their robot dicks. Please don't expect anything but the most simplistic good vs evil storytelling from Bethesda, you're only setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:01
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Walrus Pete posted:Please don't expect anything but the most simplistic good vs evil storytelling from Bethesda, you're only setting yourself up for disappointment. They did a reasonable job with the Skyrim Civil war not being simple and straightforward 'good vs evil'.
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Walrus Pete posted:Please don't expect anything but the most simplistic good vs evil storytelling from Bethesda, you're only setting yourself up for disappointment. I dunno, Skyrim did ok with the Civil War. It was kind of boring, but both sides had their good and bad.
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I hope we get to see Desmond again. If nothing else I enjoyed that when you asked him anything about his background his response was basically "no, gently caress you". For some reason that seemed so much more natural than every other NPC telling some dolt their life story upon request.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:06
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SunAndSpring posted:I hope that the Institute is a faction that sees using androids as cheap labor as a good way to build a stable and functioning society for humans, even if some androids might not like being slaves, instead of a bunch of evil assholes who want to gently caress the Boston wasteland with their robot dicks. Nobody's robot's that long. Not even Long Robot Johnson.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:07
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CJacobs posted:Yeah, reserve this for the player character, I feel. Assuming the player really is an android, anyway. I'm sure there'll be a mod for that.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:11
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Speaking of cockbotics, I'm positive they are going to kill off your spouse (but maybe not the baby) in the prologue and not leave you searching for him/her the whole game; that way after you build a house you can put a horgahn out front like a little garden gnome and a bunch of bisexual wastelanders will start proposing marriage.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:13
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khy posted:They did a reasonable job with the Skyrim Civil war not being simple and straightforward 'good vs evil'. SunAndSpring posted:I dunno, Skyrim did ok with the Civil War. It was kind of boring, but both sides had their good and bad. That's fair, I suppose. I wasn't a fan of the civil war stuff in Skyrim but I have to admit it was more interesting than most of what Bethesda's written post-Morrowind.
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Walrus Pete posted:That's fair, I suppose. I wasn't a fan of the civil war stuff in Skyrim but I have to admit it was more interesting than most of what Bethesda's written post-Morrowind. yeah tbh I think them not bothering to do a 'good vs evil' thing paid off even if they didn't put anything in to replace it so it was kind of dull
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If anything, the Brotherhood enemies in the combat gameplay trailer, that you kill in cool ways with great music behind it gives me hope that the ones in Boston will be the rear end in a top hat ones.
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frajaq posted:If anything, the Brotherhood enemies in the combat gameplay trailer, that you kill in cool ways with great music behind it gives me hope that the ones in Boston will be the rear end in a top hat ones. I actually hope we're killing the lovely DC ones.
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Heteronormative rail-roaded start, did Bethesda learn nothing from Gamersgate? I guarantee my snowflake will come bursting from the Vault 111 closet and enter the wasteland with a rainbow flag and a breederizer lazer.
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Sankis posted:I actually hope we're killing the lovely DC ones. It would be funny if they're trying to invade Boston because they think they're better for it than the Institute.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Really not digging the Minecraft stuff. Why?
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frajaq posted:If anything, the Brotherhood enemies in the combat gameplay trailer, that you kill in cool ways with great music behind it gives me hope that the ones in Boston will be the rear end in a top hat ones.
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ohh gamebryo engine how.... quaint actually no, not quaint, what i actually mean is utter & complete garbage I don't understand how they haven't developed their own inhouse engine after all this time & money. it's either greed or stupidity
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Crabtree posted:It also makes Power Armor training actually seem necessary now that you are literally climbing into a human shaped tank instead of just putting on some future fully body armored suit, but it looks like both will be given to you very early on by the main story. I'm reasonably sure that getting Power Armor early is going to be like the earlier Fallouts. Assuming the Power Armor quest is early on, I wouldn't be surprised that it's trashed to hell during the fight with the Deathclaw and repairing/rebuilding it is an ongoing thing. Sort of like how in certain games you start off as Max Level All Abilities Guy to give you a taste of what you eventually will be, but then knocks you down to a Level 1 Guy. You might get a suit of Power Armor early on that becomes your endgame armor, but in the interim its either a rebuilding project and/or a temporary thing. Crabtree posted:As for lovely vaults, these are products of a private company hired by the same old world that was fine with groups of scientists conducting all sorts of experiments on the general population to cut costs or create a weapon or tech before the enemy did. F.E.V. was developed as both cure for a goddamn New Plague released by China and a hopeful shortcut to infectious evolution of America. Of course their contingency plans for saving their desired portion of the human race are going to be mostly tainted by the same shortsighted profit margins, general sadism and incompetence that led them all to nuclear war. My point is that I don't really like the "general sadism" aspect of it. There's plenty of reasons for Vaults to fail (shortsightedness in the seeking of profit, as you mentioned) without being Snidey Whiplash. Ravenfood posted:The rear end in a top hat ones are the real ones. The through-line From 1-NV is that the 'real ones' are dead ones. They won't help the world outside their own, suffer for it. The Brotherhood that realizes that they can't just steal technology from tribals anymore and become part of society (The Widwest group, the Capitol Wasteland group) survives and thrives. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Spikeguy posted:Why? Doesn't seem very "fallout" to me and I was never interested in the crafting and this is like that on steroids.
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DOMDOM posted:ohh gamebryo engine how.... quaint The Creation Engine doesn't have Gamebryo. They've been using their own engine. Making your own engine doesn't mean it's not lovely. Plenty of games have been made using gamebryo that were good. Sankis fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:Doesn't seem very "fallout" to me and I was never interested in the crafting and this is like that on steroids. Building a new thing (Civilisation/World/Town/Life/etc.) in the shadow of such massive destruction is kind of the entire core concept behind Fallout.
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What I really want is Bethesda and Sports Interactive to team up and produce Mutant Football Manager.
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Sankis posted:The Creation Engine doesn't have Gamebryo. They have developed their own engine, it's just poo poo. Bethesda spoiler: The Creation Engine is literally Gamebryo with a different name. 
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The base building stuff seems fairly neat but for someone with very little creativity like me I imagine I'll throw up 4 light panels and a staircase, call it a day and start searching caves and poo poo.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Building a new thing (Civilisation/World/Town/Life/etc.) in the shadow of such massive destruction is kind of the entire core concept behind Fallout. Not one guy doing it with his bare hands.
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Maybe the fact that they haven't done it while having the most money in the biggest stakes in doing it proves it can't be done.
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Sankis posted:The Creation Engine doesn't have Gamebryo. They've been using their own engine. Making your own engine doesn't mean it's not lovely. Gamebryo for the most part has come to mean "that lovely engine they've been using since Oblivion" and yeah it needs to loving go. They own id, surely it's not impossible to build Fallout or Elder Scrolls in their engine. Isn't that what id is supposed to be good at? Or did John Carmack take all the magic with him when he left
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Games › Fallout 4: Trailer Textures' Tepid Tribadism
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Sankis posted:The Creation Engine doesn't have Gamebryo. They've been using their own engine. Making your own engine doesn't mean it's not lovely.
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QuarkJets posted:I love video games, I've been playing them all my life. The "gray and brown" thing is only brought up when the game is just gray and brown, like Fallout 3 was. It's not a catchphrase, it's a legitimate complaint. You can do some amazing things with game graphics and it's always disappointing when a developer chooses a boring color palette Have you checked your eyesight for colorblindness or made sure you screen that you view stuff on isn't completely desaturated? Because one of the complaints I can't throw at Fallout 4 that I could lob at FO3 is the color palette. Walrus Pete posted:Gamebryo for the most part has come to mean "that lovely engine they've been using since Oblivion" and yeah it needs to loving go. They own id, surely it's not impossible to build Fallout or Elder Scrolls in their engine. Isn't that what id is supposed to be good at? Or did John Carmack take all the magic with him when he left Also just because ID has made new engines for them, doesn't mean they are suited for the type of open world exploration game that Fallout and TES are. In fact, changing the engine is really, really hard and a lot of work to arrive at pretty much the same point they are already at, and they'd have to relearn the new tools that come with a new engine. We'd just get shittier games after a longer time. Mordaedil fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Walrus Pete posted:Gamebryo for the most part has come to mean "that lovely engine they've been using since Oblivion" and yeah it needs to loving go. They own id, surely it's not impossible to build Fallout or Elder Scrolls in their engine. Isn't that what id is supposed to be good at? Or did John Carmack take all the magic with him when he left did you play rage? they managed to make a game engine worse than anything else on the market quite a feat
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DOMDOM posted:did you play rage? they managed to make a game engine worse than anything else on the market I didn't, but I thought I remembered people being impressed with it on the tech side, if not the gameplay. Maybe I got it backwards? I dunno.
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Deakul posted:Bethesda spoiler: Gamebryo was something they licensed from Morrowind to New Vegas for their graphics. They stopped using it with Skyrim. I'm sure traces of it exist, just as traces of Quake 1 exist in Source. Bethesda's in house elder scrolls engine =/= gamebryo
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