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renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

fong posted:

So apparently someone posted "intimate photos" of Jessica Williams (a lefty journalist) online. Any bets Cameron Slater was involved?

that lauda finem blog is almost certainly a whaleoil front/closely associated with him. Interesting that they started up around the same time Slater got done for breaking name suppression :tinfoil:. Rachinger's the one ultimately at fault tho I think.

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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



fong posted:

So apparently someone posted "intimate photos" of a lefty journalist online. Any bets Cameron Slater was involved?

E: herald have pulled the story now at her request because apparently the guy who wrote the story didn't get her permission to publish the article about it wtf
It's a reference to this

Butt Wizard posted:

The Ben Rachinger stuff has taken a turn for the what the gently caress with Lauda Finem getting involved.
Lauda Finem published their ramblings about Ben Rachinger and his Sinister Links To Leftists complete with illustrations of the supposed sexts he got from Jessica Williams as they are, of course, totally germane to the point. Slater's involved in that the ramblings posit that of course it's a conspiratorial slandering of Slater because if Rachinger had in fact given them to Slater as he says he did then Slater would've published them because he's a piece of poo poo; but he didn't and therefore Rachinger is lying and Slater is the victim - and also it's just a coincidence that Lauda Finem spends a lot of words denying they're connected to Slater.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Slavvy posted:

List the top three NZ media/political people you would be most likely to google naked pics of:

John Campbell

Colin Craig

Mike Hosking

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
I don't even get how someone who is claiming some sort of moral high-ground can think that publishing intimate private photos like those is something you can do and not have it hugely undermine your credibility and have people brand you as creepy. You can say you've seen them. You can say that they're suggestive. But what the gently caress does publishing them actually add? Like what would it bring to a story that "There are explicit photos between XYZ and Rachinger and we've seen them" doesn't? It's really hard to believe that they're actually legitimately as interested in the Rachinger poo poo as they are in slut-shaming, but I guess if you do take the high road then you don't get to make jokes about her pubes!

quote:

Now when one adds to this allegation the fact that it was subsequently TV3’s “The Nation” that ran Rachingers story and that Williams had in the past (2010) been the producer of that particular Media works programme then things start to get a little hairy, in fact far more hairy than Jessica Williams nether regions.

How the gently caress do people in politics put up with this poo poo on a daily basis.

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
Lauda Finem -> LF

coincidence????? :ninja:

dusty
Nov 30, 2004

Exclamation Marx posted:

that lauda finem blog is almost certainly a whaleoil front/closely associated with him. Interesting that they started up around the same time Slater got done for breaking name suppression :tinfoil:. Rachinger's the one ultimately at fault tho I think.

I think they're most likely distinct entities.

LF has been around for a long time. They used to have quite a distinctive house style, which used to be more cerebral than whatever Slater would run. IANAL but a lot of LF's writing used to be written with the sort of familiarity I'd expect from someone who has worked in the system.

Clearly LF have now won the contract to run smears against Matt Bloomfield - Whale no longer seems to be involved in managing any of the fresh content for the Bloomfield account. Instead of interesting scuttlebutt on lovely cops and prosecutorial misconduct LF now suddenly start publishing 8000 words on why a dude who used to manage a pizza chain is literally worse than Hitler.

And there are ton of replies to LF's paid-for content in a similar style as the sock puppets Slater used to post.

So, yeah, probably written by the same person who used to pay-for-play on Slater's blog. But are LF a Slater sock-puppet? More likely a sock puppet for whoever was employing Slater.

Probably all coming out of the Franks Ogilvy office - they've just found another blogster willing to be a franchise for the rich and venal

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Twitter's up in arms today because Spark sponsored a WhaleOil event. Apparently one of the GMs at Spark is a regular reader/commenter on the blog.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Looks like he's the GM of Community something, and his comments are mostly responding to comments about Telecom/Spark. That's pretty acceptable, although God knows why you'd bother on that website.

Gross that they're sponsoring him with anything though. Got a link about it that isn't to WhaleOil?

puchu
Sep 20, 2004

hiya~
Please refer to him as blogger of the year whaleoil or whatever the gently caress award he won for being a piece of poo poo

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

mirthdefect posted:

Looks like he's the GM of Community something, and his comments are mostly responding to comments about Telecom/Spark. That's pretty acceptable, although God knows why you'd bother on that website.

Gross that they're sponsoring him with anything though. Got a link about it that isn't to WhaleOil?

Yeah I think a lot of people jumped to the conclusion that his posts were about being a Nazi baby eater but they're really very boring and tame. Still, no one really should be reading Blog Of The Year, let alone commenting

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
http://www.donotlink.com/framed?722485

On Saturday I wrote about the non-existent cellphone coverage I am experiencing and explored with my readers possible solutions.

My choices were:

Stay with Spark and get some sort of expensive booster thingy
Move to Vodafone, a company that I used to be with for 15 years and left because of poor service.
Move to 2Degrees that appeared on the surface to have better coverage, but using a company who had blacklisted me with their advertising.

The second and third options were as unpalatable as coughing a large amount of money for a repeater/booster thingy.

Still with 285,000 plus readers there was a marketing opportunity for an astute and fast moving company.

One company was fast moving.

Can you guess which?

A short time after I posted the article I was contacted by Chris Quin, Spark’s Chief Executive, Spark Home, Mobile and Business.

He was in Singapore which made the approach even more impressive.

He undertook to try to find a solution and asked for some contact numbers so his staff could call me.

Simultaneously I had two other people from Spark contact me via social media conduits to ask if they could help…then the people that Chris Quin had organised.

I was quietly impressed with the response.

Here was a company that valued me as a customer.

On Sunday I had a visit of one of Spark’s people with a brand new Cel-Fi RS2 which they installed in the house.

I now have 5 bars coverage in my office, and around the house.

I can now use my phone like it was intended…without having to stand in a small area of the house or out in the garden.

Spark has seriously exceeded my expectations of service for a mobile provider.

On top of that I can now safely avoid having to give a politically motivated company like 2Degrees any business.

In fact I think I will disable their ability to advertise to my readers. I will never work with 2Degrees…in any way, shape or form.

For those of you out there considering moving your cellphone provider, I can certainly recommend Spark.

They actually care about their customers.

Well done to Chris Quin, who is a proactive CEO, one who respects and values customers.

Now all I need to complete the circle is a sponsorship deal to show WOBH is powered by Spark!

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

tldr I used my platform to complain about a company and managed to score this thing for free when you plebs would have to pay for it

puchu
Sep 20, 2004

hiya~
More like do not read dot com

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
they are claiming they just gave him free phones, which they do a lot of bloggers apparently

swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action
What are 2 degrees bad political things

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Maybe because they are part owned by the investment arm of one of the Iwi.

Varkk fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Jun 10, 2015

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

http://www.mana.co.nz/news/revenge-of-the-miffed-why-maori-leaders-are-conspiring-to-end-native-affairs.html

quote:

Yet somehow they got hooked into an unaccountable leadership class as they ascended a career ladder and are now complicit in defending power more often than defending what is right. Let me be clear, I do not believe they have all put active pressure of Māori Television and Māori journalists; but they have all been part of Māori organisations, projects or programmes who have struck out at the messenger to avoid accountability.

...

It’s beginning to feel like some significant Māori leaders are not keen on being accountable. In addition to the Te Kōhanga Reo and the Whānau Ora stories, Native Affairs has also recently put the acid on the Māori Education Trust for their fundamental mismanagement of Ouruwhero and Mapuna Atea and Te Tumu Paeroa/Māori Trustee for their blinkered approach to buying the land blocks. Once again the response seems to be the same: deny, attack and undermine.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
It's because they blocked their web advertising from appearing on his lovely site.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Russell Brown is good people:

http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/whats-in-the-pills-it-matters/

quote:

The problem with our present drug laws is that they force out well-understood drugs whose place is taken by new drugs, which are less well understood and often much riskier. And people like Dr Quigley don’t even know what’s coming in the door when something goes wrong.

TCT
Oct 13, 2012
Hay whats the chances of our wealfare system getting as bad as the uks, Sanctions causing people to die of starvation, Socials housing completely gone, General hate of the disabled, every one freezing to death

Because that poo poo causes me to wake with terror sweats

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

TCT posted:

Hay whats the chances of our wealfare system getting as bad as the uks, Sanctions causing people to die of starvation, Socials housing completely gone, General hate of the disabled, every one freezing to death

Because that poo poo causes me to wake with terror sweats

Probably fairly low, Key hasn't really shown much inclination for the real hardline austerity that the Tories in the UK have been doing.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I don't think Key actually hates poor people. they just aren't a priority. Other Right Wingers actually think life would simply be better off without them. Key knows the key (heh) to a happy Upper Class is seeing the Lower Class for context

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Australia under Abbott, on the other hand...

Kathleen
Feb 26, 2013

Grimey Drawer
i can't believe i missed this http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/275984/meatworkers-punished-over-union-material

the grievous crime of distributing union material. did they get their time machine confiscated too?

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

TCT posted:

Hay whats the chances of our wealfare system getting as bad as the uks, Sanctions causing people to die of starvation, Socials housing completely gone, General hate of the disabled, every one freezing to death

Because that poo poo causes me to wake with terror sweats

We are on the way there with the stories this week about the people who died as a result of cold damp housing NZ houses. It is just a case of how far and how fast we go in that direction.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.


SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
A good week for JK; in this amazing video if I didn't know better I could swear our Top Bloke PM is trying to invoke Wi Parata to explain why the crown doesn't give a poo poo about native title, which is hilarious because it's the most horrifingly racist verdict in the entire history of the country. Also it's almost 150 years old and has been overturned numerous times.

quote:

In the 1877 Wi Parata case, which involved Māori land at Porirua, Prendergast ruled that the courts lacked the ability to consider claims based on aboriginal or native title. He described the Treaty of Waitangi as ‘worthless’ because it had been signed ‘between a civilised nation and a group of savages’. In his view, the Treaty had no judicial or constitutional status because Māori were not a nation capable of signing a treaty. Since the Treaty had not been incorporated into domestic law, it was a ‘simple nullity’.
If it's unintentional and he just accidentally described one of the most infamous court cases in our country's history ("we use land for a school, then we decide we no longer want to use it for a school ...") then that's even funnier somehow.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



His argument seems to be basically that because the government is designating the land for social housing then it doesn't trigger right of first refusal because it's for a public purpose - which it wouldn't if it remained public land, but this government doesn't roll with that communist poo poo so their "government purpose" is actually the transfer of that land into private ownership through developers. RFR clauses trigger when the land is no longer required public land, not when the government decides to put it on the open market, so they're either going to outright lose that fight in court or be in court until the next government abandons the fight.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Ghostlight posted:

His argument seems to be basically that because the government is designating the land for social housing then it doesn't trigger right of first refusal because it's for a public purpose - which it wouldn't if it remained public land, but this government doesn't roll with that communist poo poo so their "government purpose" is actually the transfer of that land into private ownership through developers. RFR clauses trigger when the land is no longer required public land, not when the government decides to put it on the open market, so they're either going to outright lose that fight in court or be in court until the next government abandons the fight.

Or they settle, which they will probably do to save face. I was surprised this wasn't something that was brought up when the announcement was made, the Treaty settlements have been pretty expansive and it was bound to be an issue somewhere along the line. It's like they didn't even check.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



How do you mean settle? They've already settled.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Ghostlight posted:

How do you mean settle? They've already settled.

As in they'll probably resort to buying the land outright.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I honestly don't think even National is good enough at finance to spin buying land from private ownership so that they can sell it to private ownership at a loss. At that point they'd surely just change the scheme to be a welfare subsidy for developers, ultimately resulting in literally no houses but sounding like they did everything possible.

Ghostlight fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Jun 16, 2015

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

I love it because if their concern was actually about providing housing then the iwi first refusal rights wouldn't matter to them. It wouldn't matter who buys the housing, and Ngati Whatua have already shown themselves really capable property developers.

But ofc that's not their intention in selling the land.

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





fong posted:

But ofc that's not their intention in selling the land.

Gotta keep your friends rich, yo.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Oh hey! I saw this! Then I barked a stream of profanity at the television as it finished!

Certainly got some odd looks from the other commuters.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

RE: Auckland house prices and the accompanying bubble, I keep getting told by various people that sooner or later this bubble will burst and Bad Things will happen. I assume by 'burst' they mean prices will drop or simply stop going up. Explain to my layman mind how this can be possible.

Auckland has a finite supply of land and a practically infinite demand. I don't see why houses would magically stop getting more and more expensive every year because the number of available houses is essentially fixed by the amount of land available to build houses on. Yes, eventually everything from Whangaparoa through to pukekohe will look like botany downs, but the fact is that (putting aside some sort of massive ecological disaster or atlantis rising out of the sea in the waitemata or a communist overthrow of the beehive) there can only be x amount of houses in x amount of area and there is always going to be some rich oval office who can afford whatever exorbitant price is set. The logical outcome is Auckland becoming like monaco or w/e where only the supremely rich can afford to own land, the middle class all rent and the poors move to Hamilton. I don't see any way for prices to stop going up in this scenario or any way to avoid this.

Based on this reasoning I think the bubble can't really burst because there can never be a slackening of demand as far as I can tell because land is a perpetually dwindling resource. It's like expecting petrol prices to go down despite crude oil being a finite resource and petrol being a necessity for the overwhelming majority of people, thus ensuring perpetual demand (until other fuels can be found, but there the analogy breaks down).

Wibbleman
Apr 19, 2006

Fluffy doesn't want to be sacrificed

Slavvy posted:

RE: Auckland house prices and the accompanying bubble, I keep getting told by various people that sooner or later this bubble will burst and Bad Things will happen. I assume by 'burst' they mean prices will drop or simply stop going up. Explain to my layman mind how this can be possible.

Auckland has a finite supply of land and a practically infinite demand. I don't see why houses would magically stop getting more and more expensive every year because the number of available houses is essentially fixed by the amount of land available to build houses on. Yes, eventually everything from Whangaparoa through to pukekohe will look like botany downs, but the fact is that (putting aside some sort of massive ecological disaster or atlantis rising out of the sea in the waitemata or a communist overthrow of the beehive) there can only be x amount of houses in x amount of area and there is always going to be some rich oval office who can afford whatever exorbitant price is set. The logical outcome is Auckland becoming like monaco or w/e where only the supremely rich can afford to own land, the middle class all rent and the poors move to Hamilton. I don't see any way for prices to stop going up in this scenario or any way to avoid this.

Based on this reasoning I think the bubble can't really burst because there can never be a slackening of demand as far as I can tell because land is a perpetually dwindling resource. It's like expecting petrol prices to go down despite crude oil being a finite resource and petrol being a necessity for the overwhelming majority of people, thus ensuring perpetual demand (until other fuels can be found, but there the analogy breaks down).

Bold: but petrol prices have gone down? so ummm?

Your not really thinking about it though, your just assuming that prices can go up, so your just arguing from the "auckland is different" perspective. Dublin, Toronto, Tokyo etc all had similar property bubbles that popped or went into 20+ year deflation. This is because the primary driver in house prices is cheap and easy debt. When that debt stops being available (due to other countries stopping to print) then the auckland market will crash.

Here is a article on the aussie market, but it applies to the auckland market just the same http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2015/06/the-housing-crash-we-had-to-have-a-gen-y-perspective-on-the-bubble/
Its really a matter of "when" the auckland market will crash, not "will" now.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

I was talking to a real estate agent yesterday, who said that her friend had paid about 300k for a 60sqm apartment 6 years ago, and sold it last week for 800k. She was upset because she was expecting more.

e: in Auckland somewhere

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
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Rachel Glucina's resigned

and Fairfax is cutting its editorial cartoonists down to 1 :(

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Slavvy posted:

Based on this reasoning I think the bubble can't really burst because there can never be a slackening of demand as far as I can tell because land is a perpetually dwindling resource. It's like expecting petrol prices to go down despite crude oil being a finite resource and petrol being a necessity for the overwhelming majority of people, thus ensuring perpetual demand (until other fuels can be found, but there the analogy breaks down).

In Christchurch rent is atrocious (getting better) because there was limited supply. I hear in AK that rent is reasonable, it's house prices that are insane. The issue isn't supply as such as it's just overvalued, and the rapid rising prices is appealing for short term gains, feeding the bubble.

As soon as people can't afford those prices, the demand will slip and prices will. It's not a supply problem but a demand one

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