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So the beautiful plan to destroy ISIS involves necromancy and presumably sending UN forces ashore in Gaza which will in turn bring in Iran to the war. I mean, that's what MacArthur would do.
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I'm so happy. I need him to make it to the debates. Please god, just give me a single debate with the Don onstage.
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De Nomolos posted:So the beautiful plan to destroy ISIS involves necromancy and presumably sending UN forces ashore in Gaza which will in turn bring in Iran to the war. To be fair to MacArthur, if he were to land in Gaza, it would be the most beautiful landing that's ever taken place there. It would be an absolute triumph of tactics and short-term planning. ...aaaaaand then yes, it would drag Iran into the conflict and we'd be hosed.
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Jun 16, 2015 17:49
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Nietzschean posted:I do not watch political TV and I am curious: how much of the Republican candidate field looking silly is real and how much of it is an echoing circle jerk? Consider that there are 3 candidates that could reasonably fight for the "serious/establishment" label, compared with one last election.
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Jun 16, 2015 17:50
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AhhYes posted:I'm so happy. This would be hilarious--it'd be like that scene in Season 1 of Alpha House where Bettencourt is debating all those crazy GOP Senate hopefuls.
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Jun 16, 2015 17:50
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bpower posted:Really? You can make an independent judgement on Trump,Carlson etc? Whats the question? Are they actually fit for the presidency of the US and we're just a bunch of sneering liberals? No. The vast majority of successful politicians do not seem like good people who any sane person would want to be in a position of power, so there's that I guess? Plenty of politicians on both sides seem horribly underqualified, especially when you look at who serves on various congressional committees. The thing you just said could easily be reversed and said by the other side. I'm personally going to end up voting for Hilary because she's the least evil option and that's what one does in a FPTP voting system, but that doesn't mean either side is more or less silly.
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Jun 16, 2015 17:55
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Nietzschean posted:The vast majority of successful politicians do not seem like good people who any sane person would want to be in a position of power, so there's that I guess? Eh, but there are degrees of silliness and craziness. There really isn't anybody on the Democratic side at this point who could compare to Ben Carson, Donald Trump, etc.
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Jun 16, 2015 17:58
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Two news links worth reading: That TNR article does a really great "welp Hilary" schitck that's not exactly new. gently caress, it's basically just a modern theory on what bill would be doing to cobble together his platform and adapting it to her. Clinton politics are the populist portions of the left and her focusing on domestic issues like taxes or funding schools may not be sexy, but it's at least something we can generally agree is a good thing. Also, they do a very good job of glossing over the single most important reason to coronate her for the next 8 years--Supremes. For everything obamacare is or is not, his lasting legacy honestly might be more a result of landing sotomayor and Kagan on the court just based on the legislative and executive policy climates any democratic president will have to undergo. Follow that with 8 more years of nominations and that court becomes the single most important ally democrats will have for the next two decades. Who cares if it isn't overcoming the obstacles or the big victory a republican would need, winning is winning and it's a time for consolidating gains and keeping a brand afloat for the foreseeable future.
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Majorian posted:At this point the race is Hillary's to lose. The problem is Hillary doesn't need to just win which honestly is all but a forgone conclusion at this point, she will almost certainly do better than Obama in 2012 short of some sort of major campaign implosion like video popping up of her strangling puppies, she needs to win the Senate too.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:00
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After this morning's idiocy at work that literally made an entire work week completely useless, I thought nothing could cheer me up. I was wrong. I was so, so wrong. 
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Jun 16, 2015 18:02
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De Nomolos posted:So the beautiful plan to destroy ISIS involves necromancy and presumably sending UN forces ashore in Gaza which will in turn bring in Iran to the war. How would you not vote for this man? He's finally going to blow the lid off Big Death. Once we've got the fell magicks of الظلام الذي ينتظره on our side it doesn't matter how many casualties we take. We'll just bring them back. We can also finally achieve lives of perfect leisure, doing as we please, while our Ta'engata kaimahi me te Mamahi do all the work. If necro-Trump isn't the embodiment of Republican values I'm not sure who is.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:04
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Three Olives posted:The problem is Hillary doesn't need to just win which honestly is all but a forgone conclusion at this point, she will almost certainly do better than Obama in 2012 short of some sort of major campaign implosion like video popping up of her strangling puppies, she needs to win the Senate too. The Senate is do-able, she needs to absolutely crush in the House to gain it back (54-46, maybe a point more).
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Jun 16, 2015 18:08
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Three Olives posted:The problem is Hillary doesn't need to just win which honestly is all but a forgone conclusion at this point, she will almost certainly do better than Obama in 2012 short of some sort of major campaign implosion like video popping up of her strangling puppies, she needs to win the Senate too. Eh, I won't be shocked if we see the stock market take a tumble in the next few years. 8 years of growth is really pushing the edge of the business cycle, particularly given how lopsided this recovery has been
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/16/trump-to-run-for-president-of-not-china-broken-dreamless-nation.htmlquote:The government, Trump said, spent too much money on its Obamacare website. “I have so many websites,” Trump said. “I have them all over the place. I hire people, they do a website, it costs me $3.” He is just so god drat adorable.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:09
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Majorian posted:To be fair to MacArthur, if he were to land in Gaza, it would be the most beautiful landing that's ever taken place there. It would be an absolute triumph of tactics and short-term planning. And an incredibly photo op. He'd probably force the boats back to re-land to get that perfect shot.
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TheGreyGhost posted:That TNR article does a really great "welp Hilary" schitck that's not exactly new. gently caress, it's basically just a modern theory on what bill would be doing to cobble together his platform and adapting it to her. Clinton politics are the populist portions of the left and her focusing on domestic issues like taxes or funding schools may not be sexy, but it's at least something we can generally agree is a good thing. Also, they do a very good job of glossing over the single most important reason to coronate her for the next 8 years--Supremes. Absolutely 100% agreed; the next president will have a very high chance of determining the direction of the Supreme Court for the next decade or two. That's a huge argument in favor of voting for Hillary, regardless of anything else.
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Ladies & gentlemen, I present to you the comedy option of the 2016 election cycle: Donald Trump!
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Oh good, the Trump STDH.txt anecdotes are already getting out there. http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...100c_story.html Washington Post posted:That doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t believe he has a shot at the White House. He’s never lacked for confidence, even as a kid. Once, as a schoolboy, he punched his music teacher and gave him a black eye because, Trump felt, the teacher “didn’t think he knew anything about music.”
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Fried Chicken posted:Eh, I won't be shocked if we see the stock market take a tumble in the next few years. 8 years of growth is really pushing the edge of the business cycle, particularly given how lopsided this recovery has been Not rare for a.drop to happen during Presidential campaigns,.either, just due to uncertainty.
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Grey Fox posted:Oh good, the Trump STDH.txt anecdotes are already getting out there. People love violent know it all rich children.
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Haven't watched it all myself yet, but this should be the whole Trump announcement for the others that missed it (I think) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UCveugU_i0
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TheGreyGhost posted:That TNR article does a really great "welp Hilary" schitck that's not exactly new. gently caress, it's basically just a modern theory on what bill would be doing to cobble together his platform and adapting it to her. Clinton politics are the populist portions of the left and her focusing on domestic issues like taxes or funding schools may not be sexy, but it's at least something we can generally agree is a good thing. Also, they do a very good job of glossing over the single most important reason to coronate her for the next 8 years--Supremes. For everything obamacare is or is not, his lasting legacy honestly might be more a result of landing sotomayor and Kagan on the court just based on the legislative and executive policy climates any democratic president will have to undergo. Follow that with 8 more years of nominations and that court becomes the single most important ally democrats will have for the next two decades. Who cares if it isn't overcoming the obstacles or the big victory a republican would need, winning is winning and it's a time for consolidating gains and keeping a brand afloat for the foreseeable future. I don't think he's ignoring that a Clinton presidency would be important, what he's saying is that it's not going to be a flashy presidency in the same way that Obama's was hyped up to be. You'll likely see a lot of consolidation and lots of smaller progressive policies, but she's not going to do something on the scale of Obamacare.
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I'm literally lightheaded. Who could have believed he would do it? 2012 was just an amuse-bouche, this is going to be a sumptuous feast of comedy.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:20
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When Trump announced he was running I was tempted to say something about the clown having arrived at the party. Then I remembered this is the 2016 GOP primary race.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:21
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I desperately need Berke Brearthed to come back for one more comic strip.
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Three Olives posted:The problem is Hillary doesn't need to just win which honestly is all but a forgone conclusion at this point, she will almost certainly do better than Obama in 2012 short of some sort of major campaign implosion like video popping up of her strangling puppies, she needs to win the Senate too. Which she probably will, given how many tenuously GOP-held seats are up for reelection.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:When Trump announced he was running I was tempted to say something about the clown having arrived at the party. Then I remembered this is the 2016 GOP primary race. It's more like Pennywise showing up to a party being held exclusively for clowns.
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Majorian posted:Which she probably will, given how many tenuously GOP-held seats are up for reelection. Yeah. I think there's a good chance she'll win the Senate. The only thing that could maybe give her enough tailwind to drag the house would be a complete meltdown by the Republican party over an ACA overturn.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:When Trump announced he was running I was tempted to say something about the clown having arrived at the party. Then I remembered this is the 2016 GOP primary race. It is more that yet another clown drunkenly stumbled out if the minicar.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:25
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From the posts in this thread, it sounds like he said the exact speech I heard weeks ago.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:32
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Darkman Fanpage posted:When Trump announced he was running I was tempted to say something about the clown having arrived at the party. Then I remembered this is the 2016 GOP primary race.  2016GOPPrimaries.jpg
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mdemone posted:So what kind of Trump Bump (tm) can we expect? It's gonna be YOOGE, obviously.
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Three Olives posted:People love violent know it all rich children. Absolutely; just ask President Mitt Romney  E: I just got really excited because I realized that Trump actually entering the race this time adds a new element to the proceedings--everyone has to react to and comment on the outrageous poo poo he says. And Trump's enough of a pompous, thin-skinned windbag that when he actually gets attacked by fellow GOP candidates he will react Chris Christie-style. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jun 16, 2015 |
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Has anyone made the joke that Trump should be running for candidacy of the Whig party yet?
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quote:On Obamacare: "Yesterday, it came out that costs are going for people up 29, 39, 49, and even 55 percent, and deductibles are through the roof. You have to be hit by a tractor, literally, a tractor, to use it, because the deductibles are so high, it's virtually useless. It's virtually useless. It is a disaster." Who knows. Who knows!
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That does appear to be Trump's one strength--he's immune to fact-checking, because why bother? It's just evident on its face when Trump says something that it's either a massive exaggeration or a bald-faced lie. No fact-check needed. He couches everything in stupid amounts of hyperbole. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he told us that if elected President he'd hand out gold bars from Fort Knox.
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You could really hear the despair in the voice of the NPR guy when he read "he said he would be quote the Greatest Jobs President That God Ever Created end quote" He's going to bump someone to the kiddy debate and it is going to be glorious.
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Shifty Pony posted:You could really hear the despair in the voice of the NPR guy when he read "he said he would be quote the Greatest Jobs President That God Ever Created end quote" Wait, there's actually going to be a kiddie table debate?  They're actually going to do it? I thought that was just a rumor. So the Fiorinas and Patakis and Jindals of the race have their time to shine? Is that it?
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Alter Ego posted:Wait, there's actually going to be a kiddie table debate? Yes! Yes!
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