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also japanese promotions always protect talent from other promotions because they're professionals
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Why do wrestlers hate Vampiro?
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Jun 15, 2015 04:19
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Smoking Crow posted:Why do wrestlers hate Vampiro? Jericho hates him because he took every opportunity to run him down behind his back to anyone with power who would listen to him while being nice to his face.
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natetimm posted:Jericho hates him because he took every opportunity to run him down behind his back to anyone with power who would listen to him while being nice to his face. lol chris jericho has no leg to stand on
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epitasis posted:also japanese promotions always protect talent from other promotions because they're professionals you're talking about the same promotion that booked the UWFi guys to be complete jobbers and accelerated the death of that promotion
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Jun 15, 2015 05:19
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Smoking Crow posted:Why do wrestlers hate Vampiro? From what I remember he came in to WCW thinking he was a huge star (on account of being pretty drat popular in Mexico) and that rubbed people the wrong way.
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he's also actually pretty bad at wrestling
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Someone just mentioned the Uso's in another thread, and I realized I haven't seen them in a while. What's going on with J&J?
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HogX posted:Someone just mentioned the Uso's in another thread, and I realized I haven't seen them in a while. What's going on with J&J? One of them is injured. The other appears on superstars from time to time, but they aren't gonna give him anything with a narrative attached to it.
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Jun 15, 2015 05:32
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MrBling posted:From what I remember he came into WCW thinking he was a huge star (on account of being pretty drat popular in Mexico) and that rubbed people the wrong way. That's the story I've always heard, but can anyone explain why Vampiro's so popular in Mexico? Is it the faux-Misfits facepaint, or is he amazing in the ring everywhere outside of America? The WCW matches I've seen of his have all been terrible to below average, and the latter ones were only saved by more competent wrestlers.
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Jun 15, 2015 08:22
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Vampiro slowly devolving into a white cholo gimmick is one of the funniest subtle character arcs in Lucha Underground
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ecavalli posted:That's the story I've always heard, but can anyone explain why Vampiro's so popular in Mexico? He's been working Mexico since the early 90s, mostly CMLL and AAA.
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oatgan posted:lol chris jericho has no leg to stand on Did Jericho do the same? I thought he was pretty well regarded all around?
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ecavalli posted:That's the story I've always heard, but can anyone explain why Vampiro's so popular in Mexico? No, he sucks everywhere. However, he was super over in Mexico in the early-mid 90s as some sort of heartthrob/rockstar face no, that isn't a joke.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:29
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The only thing about Jericho that I know of is that he's become Mr. WWE Company Line in terms of his opinion (or lack thereof) on anything, to the point that we're now at "asking interesting questions to guests isn't my style" and starting a bunch of podcasts with small tantrums after everyone put 2 and 2 together when they got rid of Austin interviews on the network.
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Jun 15, 2015 11:31
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Smoking Crow posted:But what if you're like me and didn't watch wrestling until 2013? I had zero idea who he and Johnny Mundo were and why I should care about them. Because lovely writing. When an actor you know is in a movie/tv/stage whatever they don't need to take a second and be like "remember, I was in the avengers, wink" when I'm just trying to watch my stupid train movie. It's bad writing, crappy storytelling, and it hamstrings any new angle they are trying because once you break that fourth wall all that lovely baggage comes with.
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Trollologist posted:Because lovely writing. When an actor you know is in a movie/tv/stage whatever they don't need to take a second and be like "remember, I was in the avengers, wink" when I'm just trying to watch my stupid train movie. That being said, it's meant to reward hardcore fans and doesn't REALLY ruin things for a casual observer when done well. You know Alberto is a big deal because the show tells you a big deal and immediately shows off that he's a big deal in this world. You don't have to understand the "but you already knew that" or "smack a caterer" jokes to understand that Mundo is a jealous baby.
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Jun 15, 2015 17:58
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Did Orton invent his headlock backbreaker move? I'd never seen that before he did it.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:56
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Mike Sanders did it
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oatgan posted:Mike Sanders did it Yeah but his version was only above average.
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Jun 15, 2015 20:43
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I was wondering this when PTP won the tag titles last night -- is Darren Young the first openly gay wrestler to hold a title in WWE? I was under the impression that Pat Patterson didn't come out until long after he retired, but I could be wrong there.
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Benne posted:I was wondering this when PTP won the tag titles last night -- is Darren Young the first openly gay wrestler to hold a title in WWE? I was under the impression that Pat Patterson didn't come out until long after he retired, but I could be wrong there. I don't think Patterson publicly came out until he was on Legend's House.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:59
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Sebastian Vettel posted:I don't think Patterson publicly came out until he was on Legend's House. Patterson was publicly closeted until somewhere between joining the office in the 1980s and the early 90s sex scandal. He was out among friends and in the business in the 70s. In a podcast with Austin he says Roy Shire wasn't sure about bringing him into San Francisco because he was gay and he promised he would never get the promotion in trouble.
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Jun 15, 2015 23:42
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But the media and people outside the company/business didn't know until Legends House. And no matter what he wasn't out while he was a champion.
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Jun 15, 2015 23:45
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Yeah, apparently Pat was out in the locker room and stuff, but WWE never publicly acknowledged it in or out of kayfabe until Legends House.
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Jun 15, 2015 23:50
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Benne posted:Yeah, apparently Pat was out in the locker room and stuff, but WWE never publicly acknowledged it in or out of kayfabe until Legends House. JR and Lawler used to make jokes about it all the time during the Attitude Era
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Jun 15, 2015 23:52
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I guess that does answer my question, though -- Pat was technically out, but never got the kind of publicity Darren Young did when he came out. And Darren definitely didn't get the kind of snide announcer jokes Pat did -- they were very aware this was a potential good PR moment.
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Daunte Vicknabb posted:That being said, it's meant to reward hardcore fans and doesn't REALLY ruin things for a casual observer when done well. You know Alberto is a big deal because the show tells you a big deal and immediately shows off that he's a big deal in this world. You don't have to understand the "but you already knew that" or "smack a caterer" jokes to understand that Mundo is a jealous baby. Did it happen fairly quickly?
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Corporate Kane posted:JR and Lawler used to make jokes about it all the time during the Attitude Era   
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Jun 16, 2015 01:58
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Bigass Moth posted:Does chilly Willy from ecw still wrestle? Nope - http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=245&page=4
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Halloween Jack posted:I don't remember any of those jokes; I probably wasn't smart enough to notice at the time. Patterson was the target of a lot of ribs about his sexuality, not even just on commentary. Really nasty stuff.
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DynamiteKidd posted:But the media and people outside the company/business didn't know until Legends House. And no matter what he wasn't out while he was a champion. Pat Patterson's sexuality was the subject of national talk shows in the early 90s and newspaper articles in the 80s. We was very out. Benne posted:I guess that does answer my question, though -- Pat was technically out, but never got the kind of publicity Darren Young did when he came out. And Darren definitely didn't get the kind of snide announcer jokes Pat did -- they were very aware this was a potential good PR moment. He actually got way, way more publicity than Darren Young.
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Halloween Jack posted:I don't remember any of those jokes; I probably wasn't smart enough to notice at the time. The one that sticks out to me was during one of the matches during the stooge era, maybe when he tore off his shirt hogan style, JR said "remember fellas, he's single." I missed it the first time too, but watching that clip as an adult makes me wonder how my mind glossed completely over it.
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I remember the ads they ran for the Briscoe Brothers Body shop when Patterson and Briscoe were Vince's henchman, and JR said something like "I hear they give rear end jobs"
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Bigass Moth posted:Does chilly Willy from ecw still wrestle? I was sure he was dead. According to wikipedia, he was just wounded. Purple heart and everything. And he trains people for MMA now.
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Jun 16, 2015 23:46
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EugeneJ posted:I remember the ads they ran for the Briscoe Brothers Body shop when Patterson and Briscoe were Vince's henchman, and JR said something like "I hear they give rear end jobs" "Patterson handles the rear end work"
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Jun 17, 2015 03:11
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Why's the NXT thread locked?
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Jun 17, 2015 12:46
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About 1 post in every 50 was actually about NXT
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