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Does it even matter if he is dead? No kid, no wife, no red piece on the side, no army, a loan from the Iron Bank that wasn't really expanded on in the show, can't go back to Dragonstone. What's left for him to do? Buying a ticket for "Brienne's Boredom Bonanza 2016"?
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The loan was expanded on sorta, his army were sellswords bought with the iron bank's gold. Including the golden company who apparently do break contracts cause gently caress your book lore.
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Jun 17, 2015 11:31
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quote:I don't even really know if this counts as a spoiler, but perhaps someone can explain just.. why the gently caress this happens in the books (and was mercifully cut from the show):
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Jun 17, 2015 11:42
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Ever hear of verisimilitude, you brainless little twit?
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Jun 17, 2015 11:45
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emanresu tnuocca posted:The loan was expanded on sorta, his army were sellswords bought with the iron bank's gold. Including the golden company who apparently do break contracts cause gently caress your book lore. Ramsay Blackfyre.
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Jun 17, 2015 11:50
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Season 4 had Joffrey's death, Tyrion's trial, Arya and Sandor, Oberyn, Olena, Tywin... It was drat good tv. How did this season happen.
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Jun 17, 2015 12:34
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Elman posted:Season 4 had Joffrey's death, Tyrion's trial, Arya and Sandor, Oberyn, Olena, Tywin... It was drat good tv. How did this season happen. Half the characters you mentioned are dead.
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Jun 17, 2015 12:38
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This season had 'good events' as well, mostly in the past 3 episodes, I think season 4 was pretty poo poo as well. Eventfulness is not necessarily a mark of quality I guess, particularly not when adapting a series of novels which are known for their 'big moments', in fact I'd say that the insistence upon hitting all the big story beats at the expense of internal consistency and solid dramatic buildup was what made this season so lovely, 6 and a half episodes of characters acting in a mostly nonsensical manner just to get them in position for the expanded three episode finale. But TV audiences loved it so I guess it doesn't really matter.
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Jun 17, 2015 12:41
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Elman posted:Season 4 had Joffrey's death, Tyrion's trial, Arya and Sandor, Oberyn, Olena, Tywin... It was drat good tv. How did this season happen. Because Season 4 was adapted from the best part of the books and Season 5 was adapted from Feast and Dance?
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Jun 17, 2015 12:41
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One of the problems Thoros had was that Cat and Berrick came back altered after being resurrected. Maybe that was fire magic and Mel will use blood magic to resurrect Jon by sacrificing Shireen. Maybe Patchface will actually resurrect Jon and he will become a Drowned God disciple. But I can imagine that he wargs into Ghost to avert death and then Mel raises his body and he returns and maybe he bring some of Ghost back into his new body or maybe he just maintains his prior personality. But a lot of theories seem to focus on either warging or resurrection - maybe it will be both. As for all the cliffhangers, you can imagine that some are preludes to death (Myrcella, Stannis) and some to life (doubt that both Theon and Sansa die though I can imagine Theon dying). So, maybe Stannis dies and maybe he doesn't but I don't think that you can read too much in to the way they cut away before his death - that was just the gimmick of the show.
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Jun 17, 2015 12:45
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Lycus posted:Because Season 4 was adapted from the best part of the books and Season 5 was adapted from Feast and Dance? Feast and Dance aren't terrible, they're just chock full of filler. They could easily make a good season or two out of them if the writing wasn't poo poo.
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Jun 17, 2015 12:52
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What if crispy Shireen and dead Stannis causes Mel to resurrect Azor Ahai reborn, Stannis in Jon's body? He'll be a hosed up blood magic zombie with undead wounds and the sensiest sense of duty.
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Jun 17, 2015 13:04
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There is no merciful cut here. The tumblr or whatever you're quoting is a summer child. There's also the thing that is often forgotten about this part in that Dany gets her periods again for the first time in forever, so GRRM had a real feast of body fluids going on here.
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Jun 17, 2015 13:09
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We didn't see Shireen die and Stannis either so they are both alive! -Twitter
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Jun 17, 2015 13:13
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Aurain posted:There's also the thing that is often forgotten about this part in that Dany gets her periods again for the first time in forever, so GRRM had a real feast of body fluids going on here. She did not know whether the diarrhea was inside the menstrual blood, or the menstrual blood inside the diarrhea.
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Jun 17, 2015 13:21
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Now that the show dragon-glass is lost, will they find another source - dragons? And what was the point of the cache at the Fist of Man - who left it there? It seems clearer in the book, obviously. The horn seems important as the possible Horn of Winter so maybe that was the point in the book. I felt that this season there were a lot of book things that they copied faithfully in the first few seasons that they had to ditch because they no longer fit with the narrative they have had to create to fill in the missing and never to be seen final books.
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Jun 17, 2015 13:36
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Volcanoes are the source of dragonglass, not dragons. I mean, maybe also dragons but volcanoes do the job just fine.
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Jun 17, 2015 13:40
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:I felt that this season there were a lot of book things that they copied faithfully in the first few seasons that they had to ditch because they no longer fit with the narrative they have had to create to fill in the missing and never to be seen final books. The only things that were adapted faithfully this season were Cersei's walk of shame, Jon's murder, and Theon and Sansa (though in the book it's Theon and fake Arya) jumping from the walls of Winterfell
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Jun 17, 2015 13:45
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I thought they had shitloads of it at the wall. Wouldn't make any sense for the Night's Watch to just bury it all out at The Fist. There's gotta be tons of it down in the parts of the castle that only Samwise seems to go down to.
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Jun 17, 2015 13:54
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In the show, if a woman is from Egypt, her tits are pyramids. That's the pattern.
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Jun 17, 2015 13:55
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:I thought they had shitloads of it at the wall. Maybe in the books but the show makes it sound like it is all lost at Hardhome. I don't think that they will now go to a volcano in the show.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:07
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:What if crispy Shireen and dead Stannis causes Mel to resurrect Azor Ahai reborn, Stannis in Jon's body?
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Jun 17, 2015 14:11
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I just thought of something. If the showrunners really want to mess with everyone they should have Kit cut his hair.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:13
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Are all the Targs blonds, or is it only that all the Barathons roll with black?
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Jun 17, 2015 14:32
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Daktari posted:Are all the Targs blonds, or is it only that all the Barathons roll with black? No, most are platinum blonds but a few were dark haired, like Jon, or Rhaegar and Elia's daughter who had the same coloring of her mother.
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Jun 17, 2015 14:34
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I haven't followed this thread since before season one aired. It's good to see that the Bad Thread is as bad as it ever was.less laughter posted:She did not know whether the diarrhea was inside the menstrual blood, or the menstrual blood inside the diarrhea. And by bad I mean good. 
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Jun 17, 2015 14:47
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I hope you weirdos watched the season finale live with a bunch of other hopeless, cuz it was a good time. Basically had to walk a stranger off a bridge after Snow got killed by suggesting that maybe GoT had blood transfusions. So many choruses of what the gently caress and no my witch's heart savored, including a woman slowly lowering her Snow Banner after the fifth stab. It's a good time to be alive is what I am saying.
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Beef Hardcheese posted:I haven't followed this thread since before season one aired. It's good to see that the Bad Thread is as bad as it ever was. You didn't drop in for the two whole threads and 900 pages of Danyrrhea chat? Allow me to catch you up...
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Jun 17, 2015 15:06
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emanresu tnuocca posted:No, most are platinum blonds but a few were dark haired, like Jon, or Rhaegar and Elia's daughter who had the same coloring of her mother. Yeah, the silver hair/purple eye trait is super-recessive and only the inbred Targs have it. The kids from Baratheons and Martells have black hair, and Tyrion has heterochromia and silver streaks. Of course, like dragonglass and the night's watch lore and the magic wall and basically everything, the show dropped that so we could have more tits and bad pussy. e: and bronn vs sandsnakes dot gif
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Solice Kirsk posted:I just thought of something. If the showrunners really want to mess with everyone they should have Kit cut his hair. He cut it last year. It's already back at Jon Snuh length and he was photographed in Belfast around where filming happens. e: Photo'd this year* Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 15:53
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That hair stuff is such absolute nonsense, why do people keep giving it the slightest amount of credence? It's really obvious they put that nonsense in his contract in the first place just to aid in covering up the plot twist and sell the idea that he's not coming back. The Dany wig is horrible but it's mostly because of the color mismatch and no one in the loving world having that much hair, Lena Headey's extensions are great and the show does just fine with fake hair that's not supposed to be inbred anime dragon princess nonsense. That mouthbreathing whiny fucker's hair is the ultimate red herring.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:13
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Junkenstein posted:LOL at that Vanity Fair article. Was that a real quote? It's ok to make us sit through a little girl being burned alive crying and screaming. But a death that could possibly be cathartic for the audience? That's too much to be shown.
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HELLO LADIES posted:That hair stuff is such absolute nonsense, why do people keep giving it the slightest amount of credence? It's really obvious they put that nonsense in his contract in the first place just to aid in covering up the plot twist and sell the idea that he's not coming back. The Dany wig is horrible but it's mostly because of the color mismatch and no one in the loving world having that much hair, Lena Headey's extensions are great and the show does just fine with fake hair that's not supposed to be inbred anime dragon princess nonsense. That mouthbreathing whiny fucker's hair is the ultimate red herring. Please don't skin any women and make a ladysuit you creepy hair obsessed weirdo.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:28
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Actually, I would like to read HELLO LADIES' treatise on the behaviour of Emilia Clarke's eyebrows and the colour mismatch. Please do not disappoint me.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Was that a real quote? It's ok to make us sit through a little girl being burned alive crying and screaming. But a death that could possibly be cathartic for the audience? That's too much to be shown. RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE PLAY WITH HER ARSE RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE THEON BURNING KIDS ALIVE RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE PREGNANT WOMAN STABBED IN THE BABY RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE JOFFREY PROSTITUTE TORTURE RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE DROGON BURNING KIDS ALIVE RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE STANNIS BURNING KIDS ALIVE.... Oh no, we can't show Stannis die. It's too grim and upsetting.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Yeah but some people who actually read the books remember how the ADWD prologue spends about 5 paragraphs establishing in no uncertain terms that a warg's consciousness transfers to their wolf once they die. Just reader things. I think you are confusing the fact that people just think he's coming back. No ones cares if hes dead or not dead. The point is that the character isn't gone from the series.
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Jun 17, 2015 16:58
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Who was that dude from season 1 Nad Stirk or something? What ever happened to that dude anyway?
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SeaborneClink posted:Who was that dude from season 1 Nad Stirk or something? What ever happened to that dude anyway? He's on a nice farm upstate where he can run and play all day with other neds.
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Isn't the preview chapter of Stannis what led people to assume he would win the battle? It's still a good case for him not being dead if "other poo poo goes down" and it still works out that way. Sorry I dont care if you didnt read the chapter I didnt either.
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The preview has him figure out Arnolf Karstark's treachery and imprison him, and prepare to burn Theon. (A lot of the men really want him to burn someone, unlike the show I guess.) His southerners are down with the red god and the northerners aren't exactly a big fan of Theon Childslayer, so that's not gonna drive any of them to abandon him.
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