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ActusRhesus posted:I just want to make sure I am understanding this correctly. Is it the position of posters in this thread that not only is not voting democrat morally evil, but that it's evil to same degree as the holocaust? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ4ESP9AKnM It's not on the level of the Holocaust, but holy gently caress is the modern GOP cartoonishly awful. They've turned Christian morality into neo-liberal fag bashing horseshit. They also quote Pokemon in their campaign speeches.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Would it be possible to charge King with perjury if it's discovered that he knew his VA eligibility would exempt him from any ACA requirements or penalties prior to the lawsuit? Even if you had a picture of him holding that mailer, you'd have to prove he read it, understood it, and consciously lied about it. Not gonna happen.
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mdemone posted:Even if you had a picture of him holding that mailer, you'd have to prove he read it, understood it, and consciously lied about it. Not gonna happen. Pretty much. Add to that the fact that official guidance on the ACA has not always been the case and you get a plausible "well sure I'm exempt NOW...but what about tomorrow when the interpretation changes" also worth noting VA coverage is not necessarily comprehensive. There are limitations to what they will cover based on whether the condition is service connected or not.
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Bob James posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ4ESP9AKnM Hmm...I don't recall any candidates in my state participating in fag bashing. I also recall it taking a democrat president with a democrat congress over four years to repeal DADT. I also recall that the defense of marriage act was signed by a democrat after passing with bipartisan majority vote. I also recall members of Janet Howell's (democrat) campaign team stating that Patrick Forrest (republican) would push a "gay agenda" if elected. But, you know, perpetuating the "all republicans are racist homophobes" meme allows to DNC to secure the minority and gay vote without having to...you know...do anything for minorities and gays.
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mdemone posted:Even if you had a picture of him holding that mailer, you'd have to prove he read it, understood it, and consciously lied about it. Not gonna happen. "Obama Administration goes after old veteran for the crime of not understanding the ACA" I mean even if the you could make the case the optics of it are so terrible that it would likely never happen. Discendo Vox posted:Right. Exactly. He's a rube, and there are millions of him. Singling him out for blame He singled himself out. I yeah there might have been someone else a but it's his name on the case and he's the one showing himself to be a piece of poo poo rear end in a top hat of the highest level in the NYT. Don't worry, there is plenty of room on the gallows and if there isn't we can always find more wood and rope. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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mdemone posted:Even if you had a picture of him holding that mailer, you'd have to prove he read it, understood it, and consciously lied about it. Not gonna happen. I know it isn't really provable, but there isn't any way he really didn't know that he was exempted. It wasn't just a single letter. I've received piles of mail from the VA regarding this subject not to mention the info from the IRS itself regarding ACA and the VA.
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ActusRhesus posted:Hmm...I don't recall any candidates in my state participating in fag bashing. I also recall it taking a democrat president with a democrat congress over four years to repeal DADT. I also recall that the defense of marriage act was signed by a democrat after passing with bipartisan majority vote. I also recall members of Janet Howell's (democrat) campaign team stating that Patrick Forrest (republican) would push a "gay agenda" if elected. But, you know, perpetuating the "all republicans are racist homophobes" meme allows to DNC to secure the minority and gay vote without having to...you know...do anything for minorities and gays. Oh wow, Democrats were the real homophobes all along 
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ActusRhesus posted:Hmm...I don't recall any candidates in my state participating in fag bashing. One of your candidates for Senate hired neo-Nazis to beat up minorities for the entertainment of others.
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VitalSigns posted:Oh wow, Democrats were the real homophobes all along Just like they were the real racists all along. I mean after all, there were Democrats in the South during the Civil War and Democrats started the KKK. Why don't more people like the GOP 
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The SCOTUSblog live blog of today's opinion announcements is up. http://live.scotusblog.com/Event/Live_blog_of_opinions__June_18_2015 The opinions come at 10am, but the live blog is fielding questions.
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ActusRhesus posted:Hmm...I don't recall any candidates in my state participating in fag bashing. What state? quote:I also recall it taking a democrat president with a democrat congress over four years to repeal DADT. I never said the Democratic Party's poo poo don't stink. Way to fall into team politics mentality. quote:I also recall that the defense of marriage act was signed by a democrat after passing with bipartisan majority vote. I never said the Democratic Party's poo poo don't stink. Way to fall into team politics mentality. quote:I also recall members of Janet Howell's (democrat) campaign team stating that Patrick Forrest (republican) would push a "gay agenda" if elected. I never said the Democratic Party's poo poo don't stink. Way to fall into team politics mentality. quote:But, you know, perpetuating the "all republicans are racist... I didn't mention racism. But now that you bring it up... quote:...homophobes" meme allows to DNC to secure the minority and gay vote without having to...you know...do anything for minorities and gays. Ah, yes. Memes are the key to the minority voters. It has nothing to do with the political shift in the '60s, immigration policy, or being staunchly against gay marriage. It's memes. Perhaps the GOP should get a scientist to develop some counter memes to get all the gay black immigrant votes. You're really bad at this.
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VitalSigns posted:Oh wow, Democrats were the real homophobes all along quote:I also recall members of Janet Howell's (democrat) campaign team stating that Patrick Forrest (republican) would push a "gay agenda" if elected. Oh wow, Democrats weren't the real homophobes all along
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ActusRhesus posted:I just want to make sure I am understanding this correctly. Is it the position of posters in this thread that not only is not voting democrat morally evil, but that it's evil to same degree as the holocaust? When one side is advocating for the removal of semi affordable health care access for millions the yes, there is some "evil" include involved.
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How is it a team mentality to take the position both parties have issues?
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Taerkar posted:When one side is advocating for the removal of semi affordable health care access for millions the yes, there is some "evil" include involved. So there is no valid criticism of the ACA or it's execution?
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Jun 18, 2015 15:00
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ActusRhesus posted:So there is no valid criticism of the ACA or it's execution? There are, but none of them happen to be coming from just about anyone with -R after their name.
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Sotomayor, in a 5-4, I wonder what Brumfield v. Cain is!
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Brumfeld v. Cain vacated/remanded, 5-4 with the assholes dissenting.silvergoose posted:Sotomayor, in a 5-4, I wonder what Brumfield v. Cain is! Whether a state court that considers the evidence presented at a petitioner’s penalty phase proceeding as determinative of the petitioner’s claim of mental retardation under Atkins v. Virginia has based its decision on an unreasonable determination of facts under 28 U.S.C. § 2254(d)(2); and (2) whether a state court that denies funding to an indigent petitioner who has no other means of obtaining evidence of his mental retardation has denied petitioner his “opportunity to be heard,” contrary to Atkins and Ford v. Wainwright and his constitutional right to be provided with the “basic tools” for an adequate defense, contrary to Ake v. Oklahoma.
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ActusRhesus posted:So there is no valid criticism of the ACA or it's execution? Ugghhhh why don't you ever argue in good faith. For someone who claims to be "in the midde" and pointing out "both teams have problems", you sure get super butthurt when people point out the Republican position on the ACA is nothing but "repeal repeal repeal"
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silvergoose posted:I guess Alito can present a 9-0, that's okay. 3 year olds can have their testimony brought as evidence? Apparently he has one more...
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silvergoose posted:I guess Alito can present a 9-0, that's okay. 3 year olds can have their testimony brought as evidence? I don't know nothin' about this case, but as the parent of a toddler, 
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mdemone posted:Brumfeld v. Cain vacated/remanded, 5-4 with the assholes dissenting. Brumfeld was sentenced to death before Atkins, then produced evidence afterwards that he was retarded, and the state court basically just didn't consider the evidence at all, if I understand the backstory.
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To be fair, I'd be equally critical of arguments unfairly attacking the DNC but that never happens in the echo chamber that is DnD And if there are valid criticisms about the law, I'm not sure advocating for repeal based on those concerns is "evil" You can disagree with someone's political views without thinking they are literally hitler.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Brumfeld was sentenced to death before Atkins, then produced evidence afterwards that he was retarded, and the state court basically just didn't consider the evidence at all, if I understand the backstory. Thanks for that, I realized after copy-pasting that I couldn't even parse that description. What a horrible sentence.
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silvergoose posted:I guess Alito can present a 9-0, that's okay. 3 year olds can have their testimony brought as evidence? In theory, sure. But it's going to be a rare three year old that can be found competent to swear an oath.
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VitalSigns posted:Ugghhhh why don't you ever argue in good faith. This is an odd complaint from someone who's posts consist of 90% smug one liners targeted at intentional misinterpretations of other people's posts.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Brumfeld was sentenced to death before Atkins, then produced evidence afterwards that he was retarded, and the state court basically just didn't consider the evidence at all, if I understand the backstory. I just thumbed through a bit of the case and that's what it is. They basically kicked it all the way back to the original court for proper atkin's determination because it's likely that he'll meet at least 3 of the 6 marks that LA requires for someone to be legally mentally deficient.
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ActusRhesus posted:And if there are valid criticisms about the law, I'm not sure advocating for repeal based on those concerns is "evil" It is if repealing the law would make exacerbate the problems brought up in those concerns. Name one valid criticism about the law that would actually be ameliorated by repeal.
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"The decision is a 5-4. Alito dissents, joined by Roberts, Scalia, and Kennedy. Majority picks up Thomas." whaaaaaaaaaat? (license plates, holding is basically texas can refuse to make confederate slogan plates, first speech does not prevent government from choosing what to say)
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ActusRhesus posted:How is it a team mentality to take the position both parties have issues? Instead of taking the criticism of the GOP head on you started whining about the other team. You're really bad at this.
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Walker v Texas Sons of Confederate Veterans. 5-4 decision, but not who you'd think!
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Walker v Texas Sons of Confederate Veterans. Thomas! Holy crap!
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Walker v Texas Sons of Confederate Veterans.  ahahahahahaa
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