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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Adiabatic posted:

I was sitting here waiting for you to chime in with the exact way to get my baby paint-matched and back to normal :smith:

I'll absolutely look into the PDR, but there's some creases I'm worried about. Thanks a bunch for your input, buddy.

Heh, I didn't keep you waiting too long. :hf:

Creases are tough, but as long as the paint isn't cracked, there's a chance. The plastic piece underneath the rub strip will obviously need to be replaced, but that could be paint matched without much issue.

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briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]
I get enough monitoring poo poo on my cars at work, I don't need it at home.

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



Does anyone else think the insurance company monitoring your driving is a bridge too loving far? Holy poo poo, I would pay extra to keep snooping actuaries out of my loving business.

E: STR, or other goonies, what app do you use on an android phone for monitoring a obd2 dongle? I just had one come into my possession.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Torque Pro.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

BloodBag posted:

Does anyone else think the insurance company monitoring your driving is a bridge too loving far? Holy poo poo, I would pay extra to keep snooping actuaries out of my loving business.

I work in health insurance and there's no loving way I would give out any info. The problem is, if enough people fall for that the insurance company is going to assume you've got something to hide by opting out.

Also not having OBD2 is great because you can just say there's no way you can use it.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

BloodBag posted:

Does anyone else think the insurance company monitoring your driving is a bridge too loving far? Holy poo poo, I would pay extra to keep snooping actuaries out of my loving business.

E: STR, or other goonies, what app do you use on an android phone for monitoring a obd2 dongle? I just had one come into my possession.

I wont move to a newer car because black box technology and nannies (can't disable ABS without going into limp mode etc).

I dont even have an ezpass for the highway because I don't want those fuckers knowing where I am.

No way in hell insurance companies are tracking me.

:tinfoil:

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



Geirskogul posted:

Torque Pro.

Man, that stuff has come a long way since I did something similar with a laptop and a cable for my senior CS project. Awesome.

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~

BloodBag posted:

Does anyone else think the insurance company monitoring your driving is a bridge too loving far? Holy poo poo, I would pay extra to keep snooping actuaries out of my loving business.

E: STR, or other goonies, what app do you use on an android phone for monitoring a obd2 dongle? I just had one come into my possession.

Yes. I threw a fit when my fiancé decided to get one for her car. She of course won out because it is her money and her car.

I MIGHT have driven it above 90mph for a little while a week or two later though :wink: here's an idea insurance companies : give people good rates for not being the cause of ACTUAL ACCIDENTS

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



I think I'm over having this loving car. Twice now loving idiots have fired grocery carts off it and yesterday it left a nice loving dent. I yelled at the guy but at least he apologized before heading off. The last guy ran to his car and peeled out. I'm so sick of trying to keep a pretty, nice looking black miata and other people loving it up. I think I'll just move to some old shitbox for $2500 and stop giving a gently caress about it. So loving angry :argh:

MustardFacial
Jun 20, 2011
George Russel's
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88h88 posted:

We are the worst for that kinda poo poo, we could in theory just keep you locked the gently caress up and escort you to the plane to make sure you don't try and escape to live in our glorious land but nah, we prefer to gently caress you around for hours at the airport questioning you and send you back to your country of origin instead. :v:

This happened to me.

My wife is from the UK and when we wanted to get married we decided to do it there since all of her family is there, as is a large portion of mine. Because of work commitments we had to take separate flights. She went by herself, and I followed the next day with my mom. So it's a 9 hour flight from which I didn't sleep and we are in line to see customs and I say to my mom "just to be safe, don't mention the wedding." As we approach the counter I get a very uneasy feeling. The customs guy asks "What is the purpose of your trip?" my mom says "visiting family.....oh and he is getting married." the customs guy replies "Congratulations, where is your entrance visa?" I said "what visa?" He said "please step this way." They bounced me back the next day.

In all of my research of what it takes to get married in the UK I never saw anything about needing an entrance visa to get married, but whatever it all sorted itself out anyways. Incidentally, they interviewed me after I had been detained and I asked why I was being detained so long, why didn't they just bounce me back on the next flight home. The customs agent said "we want to make sure you're not trying to live here as an illegal." I gave him a funny look and said "I'm from Canada. Why the hell would I want to move here? That's a step down." He said "yeah that's understandable."

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



BloodBag posted:

Does anyone else think the insurance company monitoring your driving is a bridge too loving far? Holy poo poo, I would pay extra to keep snooping actuaries out of my loving business.

E: STR, or other goonies, what app do you use on an android phone for monitoring a obd2 dongle? I just had one come into my possession.

You're goddamn right it's too loving far. At some point they may be pushing them so hard that having a monitor is essentially the default and you have to pay a shitload to go without... at that point I expect lawsuits to happen. I'd hope for the ACLU but let's face it, they won't take up the 2nd Amendment and they probably won't take up cars either because of their donating base.

I'm ok with your basic black box that records speed and braking status etc. at the time of a crash, but I don't want some loving snitch in my car telling Geico that I sometimes go 75.

Use Torque for OBD2, it's pretty cheap and seems to work well.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

BloodBag posted:

Does anyone else think the insurance company monitoring your driving is a bridge too loving far? Holy poo poo, I would pay extra to keep snooping actuaries out of my loving business.

As long as it is strictly voluntary and for the purpose of rate discounts it doesn't really bother me - I can choose to opt in or opt out. That said, I do have a bone to pick over the issues I pointed out earlier, when they rig the system so that less of one tenth of one percent of drivers - those who only drive during early afternoon, always drive 5 MPH under the limit, start braking a quarter mile or more away from the point of intended stops and/or only drive 20 miles or less per week - will actually qualify for a significant discount.

Too much stick and not enough carrot to make it worthwhile, even when I was consciously trying to drive the way they wanted I still managed to trigger "hard stops" and only driving during what they consider low risk times is only possible if you're retired or unemployed and stay home most of the day.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

BloodBag posted:

I think I'm over having this loving car. Twice now loving idiots have fired grocery carts off it and yesterday it left a nice loving dent. I yelled at the guy but at least he apologized before heading off. The last guy ran to his car and peeled out. I'm so sick of trying to keep a pretty, nice looking black miata and other people loving it up. I think I'll just move to some old shitbox for $2500 and stop giving a gently caress about it. So loving angry :argh:

I've had so many incidents with the 6 and parking lot idiots that I got afraid to drive it. I should have welded lengths of rebar to the poo poo Civic and driven that everywhere, just daring people to open their doors into it.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Rhyno posted:

I've had so many incidents with the 6 and parking lot idiots that I got afraid to drive it. I should have welded lengths of rebar to the poo poo Civic and driven that everywhere, just daring people to open their doors into it.



open ur door i dare u motherfuckre

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


I wonder how long someone could drive that bug down a busy road before a cop poo poo all over himself.

EDIT: God drat it, it removed the spacing at the top of my title. :(

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Elmnt80 posted:

EDIT: God drat it, it removed the spacing at the top of my title. :(

it's still kawaii~~

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

MustardFacial posted:

This happened to me.

My wife is from the UK and when we wanted to get married we decided to do it there since all of her family is there, as is a large portion of mine. Because of work commitments we had to take separate flights. She went by herself, and I followed the next day with my mom. So it's a 9 hour flight from which I didn't sleep and we are in line to see customs and I say to my mom "just to be safe, don't mention the wedding." As we approach the counter I get a very uneasy feeling. The customs guy asks "What is the purpose of your trip?" my mom says "visiting family.....oh and he is getting married." the customs guy replies "Congratulations, where is your entrance visa?" I said "what visa?" He said "please step this way." They bounced me back the next day.

In all of my research of what it takes to get married in the UK I never saw anything about needing an entrance visa to get married, but whatever it all sorted itself out anyways. Incidentally, they interviewed me after I had been detained and I asked why I was being detained so long, why didn't they just bounce me back on the next flight home. The customs agent said "we want to make sure you're not trying to live here as an illegal." I gave him a funny look and said "I'm from Canada. Why the hell would I want to move here? That's a step down." He said "yeah that's understandable."

Wow, snitched out by your mom. Ouch.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Ugh. Scooter guy called. He wants more money for it now.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Geoj posted:

As long as it is strictly voluntary and for the purpose of rate discounts it doesn't really bother me - I can choose to opt in or opt out. That said, I do have a bone to pick over the issues I pointed out earlier, when they rig the system so that less of one tenth of one percent of drivers - those who only drive during early afternoon, always drive 5 MPH under the limit, start braking a quarter mile or more away from the point of intended stops and/or only drive 20 miles or less per week - will actually qualify for a significant discount.

Too much stick and not enough carrot to make it worthwhile, even when I was consciously trying to drive the way they wanted I still managed to trigger "hard stops" and only driving during what they consider low risk times is only possible if you're retired or unemployed and stay home most of the day.

It's almost like their normal rate based on driver age/record/vehicle is actuarily accurate for the bulk of the people they underwrite and only a small percentage have such a conservative and minimal driving pattern that they can offer a discount.........for example to people who stay at home most of the day.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Motronic posted:

It's almost like their normal rate based on driver age/record/vehicle is actuarily accurate for the bulk of the people they underwrite and only a small percentage have such a conservative and minimal driving pattern that they can offer a discount.........for example to people who stay at home most of the day.

I guess TL;DR of what I said is "insurance companies are scamming people into opting in to monitoring by offering discounts that 99.9% of drivers won't be eligible for."

e: I mean, if you actually believe insurance companies are doing this to be nice and offer rate discounts to .01% of their customers and not because its a backdoor method to get reams of data that will be used to model future rates I don't know what to say.

Geoj fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jun 18, 2015

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Slow is Fast posted:

I wont move to a newer car because black box technology and nannies (can't disable ABS without going into limp mode etc).

I dont even have an ezpass for the highway because I don't want those fuckers knowing where I am.

No way in hell insurance companies are tracking me.

:tinfoil:

Your cars all have black boxes, sorry.

I have EZpass because I would go insane commuting otherwise, I aint carrying quarters and poo poo.

Insurance companies can suck start a shotgun if they think they are monitoring me however. gently caress them. If they decide it's mandatory, I will switch companies immediately, until there are no non-monitored insurance policies available anywhere. Then I will use my knowledge of NMEA 0183, SAE J1979, ISO 11898, and ISO 15765 to blue pill the motherfuckers into seeing me draw dicks and smiley faces all over Colorado at 35mph :yosbutt:

The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


WHITE
DRIVES
MATTER

kastein posted:

Your cars all have black boxes, sorry.

I have EZpass because I would go insane commuting otherwise, I aint carrying quarters and poo poo.
...

Maybe you're not aware, but pretty much every state/region that has an EZPass-like option, uses EZPass to monitor subscribers on major highways, even when it's not for tolling purposes. To my knowledge, the only place it's been legally challenged was in New Jersey, where the state claimed the data was anonymized. When it was shown it wasn't, they recanted, but no ban on tracking EZPasses outside toll areas was ever issued.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Geoj posted:

I guess TL;DR of what I said is "insurance companies are scamming people into opting in to monitoring by offering discounts that 99.9% of drivers won't be eligible for."

e: I mean, if you actually believe insurance companies are doing this to be nice and offer rate discounts to .01% of their customers and not because its a backdoor method to get reams of data that will be used to model future rates I don't know what to say.

Its eventually going to become the auto insurance equivalent of Health Evidence for Life and Health Insurance. Don't want to have us constantly watching you? Enjoy higher rates and more restrictive coverage.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Rhyno posted:

Ugh. Scooter guy called. He wants more money for it now.

Lame. There's a beat to poo poo Trail 90 about 80 miles north, I'm having bad ideas about either restoring it or tossing in a Lifan 140.

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



1500quidporsche posted:

Its eventually going to become the auto insurance equivalent of Health Evidence for Life and Health Insurance. Don't want to have us constantly watching you? Enjoy higher rates and more restrictive coverage.

I bet local govts will get in on that poo poo and then start charging taxes per mile. Like Germany's Maut system for trucks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LKW-Maut

That system made it so trucks always take the A roads instead of Autobahns to avoid tolling. At least that's what they were doing in 2006, the last time I was back home.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Sigma X posted:

Maybe you're not aware, but pretty much every state/region that has an EZPass-like option, uses EZPass to monitor subscribers on major highways, even when it's not for tolling purposes. To my knowledge, the only place it's been legally challenged was in New Jersey, where the state claimed the data was anonymized. When it was shown it wasn't, they recanted, but no ban on tracking EZPasses outside toll areas was ever issued.

Wait, seriously? I'm curious how. I always assumed the overhead radar gun looking things near some weigh stations and rest stops were for those purposes but I haven't seen any other way they could read them.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

kastein posted:

Your cars all have black boxes, sorry.

I have EZpass because I would go insane commuting otherwise, I aint carrying quarters and poo poo.

Insurance companies can suck start a shotgun if they think they are monitoring me however. gently caress them. If they decide it's mandatory, I will switch companies immediately, until there are no non-monitored insurance policies available anywhere. Then I will use my knowledge of NMEA 0183, SAE J1979, ISO 11898, and ISO 15765 to blue pill the motherfuckers into seeing me draw dicks and smiley faces all over Colorado at 35mph :yosbutt:

You will be selling these boxes right?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Slow is Fast posted:

FTFY

I've been stood up, been on some awesome dates, been on some lovely ones. The best thing to realize is life isn't about other people.
Being single is awesome. Having good friends is the best way to avoid any SO RONERY :qq: issues.

SuperDucky posted:

Wait there are AI posters that don't have bape on ignore already?
I completely disagree with his taste most of the time, but I don't have anyone on ignore. If I don't like what someone says I'll just ignore it or have the argument.

MustardFacial posted:

This happened to me.

My wife is from the UK and when we wanted to get married we decided to do it there since all of her family is there, as is a large portion of mine. Because of work commitments we had to take separate flights. She went by herself, and I followed the next day with my mom. So it's a 9 hour flight from which I didn't sleep and we are in line to see customs and I say to my mom "just to be safe, don't mention the wedding." As we approach the counter I get a very uneasy feeling. The customs guy asks "What is the purpose of your trip?" my mom says "visiting family.....oh and he is getting married." the customs guy replies "Congratulations, where is your entrance visa?" I said "what visa?" He said "please step this way." They bounced me back the next day.

In all of my research of what it takes to get married in the UK I never saw anything about needing an entrance visa to get married, but whatever it all sorted itself out anyways. Incidentally, they interviewed me after I had been detained and I asked why I was being detained so long, why didn't they just bounce me back on the next flight home. The customs agent said "we want to make sure you're not trying to live here as an illegal." I gave him a funny look and said "I'm from Canada. Why the hell would I want to move here? That's a step down." He said "yeah that's understandable."
1) Your mother is an idiot.

2) One of my friends deals with weddings, birth registrations and so on for her job, and yeah, they're really tight on foreign visitor marriage now. What you needed is called a Marriage Visitor Visa, as detailed here: https://www.gov.uk/marriage-visa/overview

solarNativity
Nov 11, 2012

MustardFacial posted:

This loving SA-GTE race is killing me. Either I give up 100hp, take a risk at making more stops than anyone else, or I clean sheet the engine.

How much power are you making? I could only manage ~540HP out of a 5.5L NA pushrod V8.

I may just give up and make a tiny turbo FF.

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



It's me, I'm the bastard helping bring in a car monitored future.

3 years back when I got my first car (a peugeot 107 which is still my current car) I was looking at £1800 for insurance
Opting in for a black box knocked £400 off that with promises of lowered insurance faster.
As I didn't have a job and needed the car to get a job I couldn't refuse.

When it came to the first renewall the price halved, then the next time it was at £400.
That simply wouldn't have happened on regular insurance.


I will probably ask how much it is helping out at my next renewal and get it deactived then.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Cakefool posted:

You will be selling these boxes right?

If I did, they'd be called "OBD2 test equipment bench test systems" and whether you put the publically released bluepill firmware on it after you buy it or not is not my concern :v:

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

kastein posted:

If I did, they'd be called "OBD2 test equipment bench test systems" and whether you put the publically released bluepill firmware on it after you buy it or not is not my concern :v:

In for 1. Hopefully the firmware will allow us to upload custom images.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

InitialDave posted:

1) Your mother is an idiot.

2) One of my friends deals with weddings, birth registrations and so on for her job, and yeah, they're really tight on foreign visitor marriage now. What you needed is called a Marriage Visitor Visa, as detailed here: https://www.gov.uk/marriage-visa/overview
When I got married in the UK in 2002, England and Wales and Ireland had a residency requirement, Scotland did not. Looks like that's since changed, but it was pretty handy as I didn't have 3 weeks of time off work to live in the UK prior to getting hitched to fulfill the requirement, so we drove 30 feet into Scotland and got married there instead.

The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


WHITE
DRIVES
MATTER

kastein posted:

Wait, seriously? I'm curious how. I always assumed the overhead radar gun looking things near some weigh stations and rest stops were for those purposes but I haven't seen any other way they could read them.

Everywhere and anywhere you see one of these perpendicular to the road:

Sometimes with the bulges top and bottom, sometimes without. The large-scale readers that you see at the toll areas are sometimes also hung under the large road-spanning signs. I know a few had been spotted under overpasses, as well.

:tinfoil:

EDIT: The radar-gun looking things are actually probably for stopless weigh station systems that've been setup nationwide.

The Prong Song fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jun 18, 2015

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

Phone posted:

Dinner is a loving awful first date.

Grab a coffee or beer so you can actually talk to a person versus spending half of the time stuffing your maw and the other half being awkward. And if the date sucks? You're only out $10! Low stakes, no steaks.

This right here is the best advice.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Sigma X posted:

Everywhere and anywhere you see one of these perpendicular to the road:

Sometimes with the bulges top and bottom, sometimes without. The large-scale readers that you see at the toll areas are sometimes also hung under the large road-spanning signs. I know a few had been spotted under overpasses, as well.

:tinfoil:

Huh. That looks relatively easy to *cough* procure. :ninja:

As for custom uploadable firmware, yes, any such thing would come blank and you'd be on your own, perhaps with a library to use. Similar products already exist for testing OBD2 debug tools, and I've considered buying one to learn more about the protocol (since the documentation is incredibly dry and I'm responsible for designing our OBD2 compliance system at work) but they're very inflexible and use the world's worst microcontroller family so it's pretty annoying to use.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Slow is Fast posted:

I wont move to a newer car because black box technology and nannies (can't disable ABS without going into limp mode etc).

I dont even have an ezpass for the highway because I don't want those fuckers knowing where I am.

No way in hell insurance companies are tracking me.

:tinfoil:

Don't worry.

You're only being tracked via your phones GPS, your internet browser, your TV, credit card companies, bank, and Lord knows what else.

solarNativity
Nov 11, 2012

kastein posted:

If I did, they'd be called "OBD2 test equipment bench test systems" and whether you put the publically released bluepill firmware on it after you buy it or not is not my concern :v:

I'm in, as long as I haven't swapped my newish vehicle for a yard full of 80s shitboxes by then.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

"Working" from home tomorrow. Got everything set up perfectly. Crunched the rest of the week so I'm past my productivity goal already, spent most of today just working on stuff for tomorrow but not sending anything. Unless I get a ton of emails overnight tomorrow is gonna be golden.

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freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Tide posted:

Don't worry.

You're only being tracked via your phones GPS, your internet browser, your TV, credit card companies, bank, and Lord knows what else.

When I got my tablet it already knew where Iived and worked without me telling it based on where I log into google at what time.

Also if you may have one of these

http://www.wired.com/2010/10/fbi-tracking-device/

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