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SirDan3k posted:Strange! (don't forget the exclamation point, the letter never did) didn't get killed, his/it's? essence was sent to help Clea and bonded with a freedom fighter she was falling in love with in a B plot about Dormammu seizing power again. Being a conduit of raw magic power he swiftly conjured a rug and swept himself under it. They never said if he died or not. Yeah Paradox basically died on the way back to his home planet. Vincent Stephens definitely died though.
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That reminds me of how DC tried to revamp Dr Fate by giving him a sick knife and a face tattoo.
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So Deadpool Secret Wars has made Secret Shields canon.
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TNG posted:Sorta, Strange, who later became known as Paradox, died off panel in-between David Quinn, who created him, and Ellis' runs. The whole Vincent Stephens/Strange/Salome arc was a terrible idea and was blatantly Marvel attempting to cash in on the whole Image/Spawn craze of the time. It also derailed an interesting Len Kaminski run so that Dr. Strange could join all the 90s heroes who had gone super 90s, much like his Iron Man. Some people here have read the 90's Dr. Strange book more recently then I have it seems. muscles like this? posted:That reminds me of how DC tried to revamp Dr Fate by giving him a sick knife and a face tattoo. Fate! who is a bounty hunter because it's the 90's.
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zoux posted:So Deadpool Secret Wars has made Secret Shields canon. I never read the original secret wars, so I assumed when I saw that the shields the action figures came with were something from the original series based on that. Also, looks like Deadpool is stealing Colossus's girlfriend. And yea, each realm of battleworld is blocked in by a giant wall, and you are not to leave your realm, or throw anything out of your realm based on what happened to Ms America. If you do, you get sent to the Shield. Looks like the Doom Thor Patrol is the only group that has permission to travel between realms. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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Jun 18, 2015 15:46
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We know that OML Wolverine is going to be part of the main continuity (well, strongly suspect based on promo art). So I wonder if he's going to bring any of the AoA X-men from last issue with him. That's always been a popular alternate continuity.twistedmentat posted:And yea, each realm of battleworld is blocked in by a giant wall, and you are not to leave your realm, or throw anything out of your realm based on what happened to Ms America. If you do, you get sent to the Shield. Looks like the Doom Thor Patrol is the only group that has permission to travel between realms. Then why do the Squadron Sinister get to annex surrounding realms?
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Jun 18, 2015 15:54
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zoux posted:Then why do the Squadron Sinister get to annex surrounding realms? Deal with Doom? Its almost 100% definite that Old Man Logan is going to be part of the main universe due to the announcements that marvel have made. I could see them bring AOA Sabertooth as he is reformed and they seem to want him on the Avengers for some reason. They should also bring Blink and some of the other Exiles as long as Claremont can not write them. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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Jun 18, 2015 15:56
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bobkatt013 posted:Deal with Doom? No I think he is as well, but until it's officially announced...  Lotta people speculating this is 616 Odinson because of the arm, unworthiness and Jarnbjorn.
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Jun 18, 2015 16:00
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twistedmentat posted:And yea, each realm of battleworld is blocked in by a giant wall, and you are not to leave your realm, or throw anything out of your realm based on what happened to Ms America. If you do, you get sent to the Shield. Looks like the Doom Thor Patrol is the only group that has permission to travel between realms. This doesn't seem to be the case; in MODOK: Assassin, we see him cruise along a Killville highway right up to the Sentinel Territories, and it's just a change from scenic highway to rubble-marked dystopia. e: have we seen duplicates of any of the Barons? Majuju fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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Jun 18, 2015 16:15
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Yes, Jamie Braddock was in regular Secret Wars and Angela.
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muscles like this? posted:Yes, Jamie Braddock was in regular Secret Wars and Angela. Mr. Sinister was one of the Horsemen in OML this week as well.
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Jun 18, 2015 16:22
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Ordinary people aren't allowed to leave their realm. Although, as was shown in Attilan Rising, if you are high ranking enough it seems like you can move between realms if you really want to.
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The rule seems to be you can't leave your realm, its spelled out pretty clearly in A-force, but there's probably a million exceptions. Like MODOK isn't going to rock the boat, but a Wolverine running around? That's not something DOOM can let happen.
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Jun 18, 2015 16:34
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twistedmentat posted:That's not something DOOM can let happen. Have we seen Squirrel Girl?
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bobkatt013 posted:Have we seen Squirrel Girl? Probably locked in the deepest dungeon in Castle God Doom because she could undo all of Dooms grand plans.
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Jun 18, 2015 16:39
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zoux posted:No I think he is as well, but until it's officially announced... As cool as that would be I extremely doubt it after that Odin/Maestro red herring. Besides he became worthy during the beyonder fight and lost his arm as well.
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Jun 18, 2015 16:45
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While I agree that is probably not 616 Thor, I would imagine that since Doom is the one who gives the hammers their power, the concept of worthiness might be a little different.
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Jun 18, 2015 17:00
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Senor Candle posted:While I agree that is probably not 616 Thor, I would imagine that since Doom is the one who gives the hammers their power, the concept of worthiness might be a little different. His scale is Richards to Doom 
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Jun 18, 2015 17:02
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The Biggest Jerk posted:As cool as that would be I extremely doubt it after that Odin/Maestro red herring. Besides he became worthy during the beyonder fight and lost his arm as well. Given some of hosed up poo poo in Battleworld, i think Doom just managed to recreate part of 616 as he remembers or whatever backup/remains of the universe post incursion. Thor died to the Beyonders where even Doom can't reach so no one knows any better. The main book will hopefully get into the nitty gritty details of how Doom pulled this off considering the last we saw of him pre BW was his molecule man bomb failing and taking out the majority of the multi-verse.
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The Biggest Jerk posted:As cool as that would be I extremely doubt it after that Odin/Maestro red herring. Besides he became worthy during the beyonder fight and lost his arm as well. This is clearly 616 Odinson. Why would people think it isn't? There is no 616 any more. Battleworld has multiple copies of characters from various realities and timelines. Why would one of them not be the Thor we recognise? Nobody is saying that Ultimate Thor isn't Ultimate Thor because he died in the incursion, because EVERYBODY DIED in the incursion, except those on the rafts. 616 Thor died the same as everyone else, and now has been recreated on Battleworld, same as everybody else. Its already been established that the Zones aren't necessarily recreated exactly how they were at the point of incursion Same for the people saying that Cyclops on that Secret War cover must be a mistake because Cyclops because he's Pheonix powered now. There's literally a thousand Summers manning The Wall, why wouldn't there be a post AvX Cyclops kicking around? I don't get why everybody is struggling to get this concept.
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I think the question people are asking is less "is that 616 Odinson" and more "that's 616 Odinson, DO YOU THINK HE MIGHT HAVE SOMEHOW SURVIVED EVERYTHING AND REMEMBERS STUFF AND THIS WILL BE A BIG REVEAL?"
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Jun 18, 2015 17:36
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krakagar posted:This is clearly 616 Odinson. Why would people think it isn't? In your post you say it is clearly 616 Odinson, and also that it is a recreation of 616 Odinson. Are you sure you're not the one struggling with the concept?
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Finally, we get a crossover event that forces us to question the nature of the soul 
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Edge & Christian posted:I think the question people are asking is less "is that 616 Odinson" and more "that's 616 Odinson, DO YOU THINK HE MIGHT HAVE SOMEHOW SURVIVED EVERYTHING AND REMEMBERS STUFF AND THIS WILL BE A BIG REVEAL?" It's a silly question. The only survivors who remember anything are Doom, Strange, and the people on the lifeboats. Hickman has made that pretty clear.
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Senor Candle posted:In your post you say it is clearly 616 Odinson, and also that it is a recreation of 616 Odinson. Are you sure you're not the one struggling with the concept? That is basically the same thing though as far as Secret Wars is concerned. Everyone is a copy unless they were on the raft. There's a whole area that's just a copy of 616. This Thor is supposed to be the Thor we know as Odinson from there. Though yeah, reading it back, maybe my post comes across as kind of confusing. Sorry. Basically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shs7VQhVvxA
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Codependent Poster posted:It's a silly question. The only survivors who remember anything are Doom, Strange, and the people on the lifeboats. Hickman has made that pretty clear. Yeah, what this guy said.
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Jun 18, 2015 17:57
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Well, 616 Odinson did died before the final incursion, so there may be something funky with him. Actually, we never actually saw him and Hyperion die, they were just gone, so who knows?
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I asked yesterday but got no answer: what continuity is Nu-topia?
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bobkatt013 posted:Deal with Doom? Wait, hang on, wasn't OML in the AoA & Creed was there as a villain?
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twistedmentat posted:Well, 616 Odinson did died before the final incursion, so there may be something funky with him. Actually, we never actually saw him and Hyperion die, they were just gone, so who knows? They're dead. The Beyonders killed them. Doom and Strange show up at that same place later. I'm not sure what Nutopia is. It might be the Morrison X-Men location?
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zoux posted:I asked yesterday but got no answer: what continuity is Nu-topia?
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Yvonmukluk posted:Wait, hang on, wasn't OML in the AoA & Creed was there as a villain? Yeah I finally got around to reading it and shocked to see Creed there as a villain since in the original he was a loyal X-man.
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zoux posted:I asked yesterday but got no answer: what continuity is Nu-topia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Wars_(2015_comic_book) Someone went through and linked all the continuities with their respective realm
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Until I read Thors I never realized that I wanted a Marvel police procedural but now it's all i can think about. Adult Swim, Netflix, someone please make this happen. It setup beautifully, each week you get to go to a different corner of Battleworld to solve some crazy crime. I need this in my life.
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Krailor posted:Until I read Thors I never realized that I wanted a Marvel police procedural but now it's all i can think about. From what I understand that's exactly what Powers is, just not in the Marvel Universe.
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bobkatt013 posted:Yeah I finally got around to reading it and shocked to see Creed there as a villain since in the original he was a loyal X-man. BENDIS!
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I'm just assuming it's AoA, but it's not like Magneto doing a face turn and leading a ragtag group of former good and evil mutants in a world turned upside down doesn't happen every month. So it might not be strictly AoA.
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zoux posted:I'm just assuming it's AoA, but it's not like Magneto doing a face turn and leading a ragtag group of former good and evil mutants in a world turned upside down doesn't happen every month. So it might not be strictly AoA. The last page was them with a statue of Apocalypse and everyone was in their AOA uniforms. All might be revealed in the AOA miniseries. If creed is a good guy there then we know its Bendis being Bendis. In this thread  should not be used when we have
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zoux posted:Then why do the Squadron Sinister get to annex surrounding realms? I don't think that those are actually wall separated realms they are annexing as some areas are collections of several surviving realities. Basically all surviving Squadron Supreme got put into one section of battle world to, well battle for supremacy.
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