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fritz
Jul 26, 2003

Ape Gone Insane posted:

Figured I would post this here too:

Are there any series like Game of Thrones in space? Google throws up The Expanse series which is nothing loving like GoT. Dune is probably the closest I've read and I liked the concept they reworked into Jupiter Ascending - so basically any powerful families/houses fighting over a resource or a throne in a space opera setting (with lots of grey characters and deaths)?

From looking around, there doesn't seem to be anything, which is kinda surprising, it's a decent concept to run with.

Not totally the same, but maybe "In Conquest Born" ( http://www.amazon.com/Conquest-Born-Daw-Book-Collectors/dp/0756400430 ) ?

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Koesj
Aug 3, 2003
Are space stations a resource? There's always some Cherryh I could recommend, and in Downbelow Station you've even got quasi aristocratic families involved!

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul

Ape Gone Insane posted:

Figured I would post this here too:

Are there any series like Game of Thrones in space? Google throws up The Expanse series which is nothing loving like GoT. Dune is probably the closest I've read and I liked the concept they reworked into Jupiter Ascending - so basically any powerful families/houses fighting over a resource or a throne in a space opera setting (with lots of grey characters and deaths)?

From looking around, there doesn't seem to be anything, which is kinda surprising, it's a decent concept to run with.

Red rising, if you're OK with more young adult type fiction. It is very bloody. The sequel is more in line with what you are looking for, the first book is basically space hunger games.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Has anyone read The Red by Linda Nagata? I'm seeing a ton of praise for it prior to rerelease, but I never caught it while it was being blogged or when it was self published

thetechnoloser
Feb 11, 2003

Say hello to post-apocalyptic fun!
Grimey Drawer

Ape Gone Insane posted:

Figured I would post this here too:

Are there any series like Game of Thrones in space? Google throws up The Expanse series which is nothing loving like GoT. Dune is probably the closest I've read and I liked the concept they reworked into Jupiter Ascending - so basically any powerful families/houses fighting over a resource or a throne in a space opera setting (with lots of grey characters and deaths)?

From looking around, there doesn't seem to be anything, which is kinda surprising, it's a decent concept to run with.

Closest to Dune I can think of the "The Dragon Never Sleeps", by Glen Cook. Warring Houses, gholas/clones, political intrigue. Just don't expect the book to explain everything to you. I enjoyed it, but it's not for everyone.

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Never-Sleeps-Glen-Cook/dp/1597801488

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Fried Chicken posted:

Has anyone read The Red by Linda Nagata? I'm seeing a ton of praise for it prior to rerelease, but I never caught it while it was being blogged or when it was self published

I did! It was really good!

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Ape Gone Insane posted:

Are there any series like Game of Thrones in space?

There's plenty of space politicking in Karl Schroeder's Virga books (starting with Sun of Suns), with a whole bunch of Houses going at it in the second book, Queen of Candesce.

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

ravenkult posted:

Are there any fantasy/scifi/steampunk/whatever books about explorers?
I am not sure whether it's actually in any of those genres, but maybe The Terror by Dan Simmons?

Shop of Fools by Russo is another "let's check out this strange artifact" sort of book.

thewireguy
Jul 2, 2013
I am not going to go through 252 pages on my phone, but I am on my 12th book of gene Wolfe. He is my new favorite author, making Neil gaiman a close second. This guy earned his own shelf.

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


I think Ann Leckie's Imperial Radch series could fit the bill. It's a lot (A LOT) slower than Game of Thrones, and has less action, but there's a lot of quiet political wheeling and dealing in it. Maybe not as expansive as you'd like though, it has only one protagonist.

El_Molestadore
Apr 2, 2005

Time to die hero
I downloaded a Kindle sample of "The Red Knight" by Miles Cameron after seeing it mentioned here. The protagonist can apparently turn sort of invisible and he creeps up on and molests some random nun he met 15 minutes earlier.

Really?

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

El_Molestadore posted:

I downloaded a Kindle sample of "The Red Knight" by Miles Cameron after seeing it mentioned here. The protagonist can apparently turn sort of invisible and he creeps up on and molests some random nun he met 15 minutes earlier.

Really?

The immaculate conception all over again. :heysexy::respek::catholic:

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
Red Knight has some good aspects (it's medieval military porn) and some bad ones. That stupid 'romance' with that nun is a big one.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Hey guys, I find the idea of a monogendered society too weird and offputting to be able to enjoy Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie. With that in mind, can someone teach me how to edit the ebook so every character is male? Thanks in advance.

Reddit is the worst

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Hedrigall posted:

Hey guys, I find the idea of a monogendered society too weird and offputting to be able to enjoy Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie. With that in mind, can someone teach me how to edit the ebook so every character is male? Thanks in advance.

Reddit is the worst

Holy poo poo :allears:

Even reddit is horrified!

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

Decius posted:

Second one is great, third one is mediocre, fourth one is pretty good, fifth one is apparently very good again (haven't yet managed to read it).

Yes the 5th book this up there with book two surprisingly. I just felt the took the crime too lightly. I can't believe they actually "Dropped some Rocks". You know drat well if the OPA killed 10 billion earthlings there would be hell to pay against every soul in the belt, innocent or not.

Can someone explain the epilogue?

Anomandaris
Apr 3, 2010

gohmak posted:

Yes the 5th book this up there with book two surprisingly. I just felt the took the crime too lightly. I can't believe they actually "Dropped some Rocks". You know drat well if the OPA killed 10 billion earthlings there would be hell to pay against every soul in the belt, innocent or not.

Can someone explain the epilogue?

The OPA radicals were controlled by a Martian splinter faction that gave them the know-how and materials to perform the strike on Earth. They are the ones who got their hands on the protomolecule sample and are experimenting on it somewhere on one of the frontier worlds. The POV is from a martian ship belonging to this faction that is destroyed while passing through one of the gates. The gates are indeed eating ships for no apparent reason, I guess Holden & crew will try to find out why in the next book.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

Anomandaris posted:

The OPA radicals were controlled by a Martian splinter faction that gave them the know-how and materials to perform the strike on Earth. They are the ones who got their hands on the protomolecule sample and are experimenting on it somewhere on one of the frontier worlds. The POV is from a martian ship belonging to this faction that is destroyed while passing through one of the gates. The gates are indeed eating ships for no apparent reason, I guess Holden & crew will try to find out why in the next book.

Do the radicals hold Medina Station?

They made Naomi too sympathetic to the radicals. Abandoned son or not, they killed earth. She should have sacrificed her life to kill space Hitler x1000.

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi
Mar 26, 2005

Hedrigall posted:

Hey guys, I find the idea of a monogendered society too weird and offputting to be able to enjoy Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie. With that in mind, can someone teach me how to edit the ebook so every character is male? Thanks in advance.

Reddit is the worst

Quick, someone show this dude Left Hand of Darkness

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Autonomous Monster posted:

Holy poo poo :allears:

Even reddit is horrified!

For once, the comment section was refreshing :3:

thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp
It's not really any different to wanting to edit Tom Sawyer in schools.

General Emergency
Apr 2, 2009

Can we talk?

thehomemaster posted:

It's not really any different to wanting to edit Tom Sawyer in schools.

Except that he is editing his own copy instead of trying to force it on everyone else which makes is really loving weird but also a total non-issue in the end...

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

El_Molestadore posted:

I downloaded a Kindle sample of "The Red Knight" by Miles Cameron after seeing it mentioned here. The protagonist can apparently turn sort of invisible and he creeps up on and molests some random nun he met 15 minutes earlier.

Really?

I'm not sure I could think of a portion of the book less suited to a sampler. What were they thinking :psyduck:

RndmCnflct
Oct 27, 2004

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Oh yea, finished up 14 by Peter Clines. The Fold was a lot better, but mainly because of pacing issues. Same general overview/idea as the other book (minus the doorway stuff), but all in all it wasn't too bad. Wouldn't smoke the tires hauling rear end to go buy a copy, but if you happen to like The Fold it's worth picking up sometime.
Ate up The Fold in one straight session, that was really good.

Dr. Gene Dango MD
May 20, 2010

Fuck them other cats I'm running with my own wolfpack

Keep fronting like youse a thug and get ya dome pushed back
I recently finished The Star by Arthur C Clarke and I really enjoyed it. There is a version narrated by the author on youtube that I really recommend. I'd post the link here but I'm not sure if it would break some rule. I'm in the middle of Stranger in a Strange Land and I'm really enjoying that, even though Sci-Fi with actual Martians bothers me a little bit, even during the Martian Chronicles.

Dr. Gene Dango MD fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Jun 21, 2015

occamsnailfile
Nov 4, 2007



zamtrios so lonely
Grimey Drawer
Somebody a while back was asking about YA sci-fi from recent years, and I couldn't readily name any offhand--but I found this and it seems like it might be a good place to start looking. It actually made me think of Escape from Earth edited by Gardner Dozois and Jack Dann, and The Starry Rift edited by Jonathan Strahan. A lot of the authors there are not YA regulars but tried to aim themselves a bit younger, generally not by any 'dumbing down' of content. Some of them are stories about spaceships and aliens and such, some are more dramatic spaceship maintenance. It varied a lot.

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010
Has anyone read The Knights of Breton Court books by Maurice Broaddus? It's urban fantasy with Arthurian legend transplanted onto a black gang in some Indianapolis projects named Breton Court. I love the premise, it sounds awesome and has a ton of potential, I didn't like the writing in the sample I read though. Can anyone tell me if it improves and lives up to the potential?

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Lord of Light is mentioned pretty often in this thread, so here's a bunch of art Jack Kirby did for it (that was also the basis of Operation: Argo):

https://shop.heavymetal.com/shm/index.php

It, uh, didn't really match what I was picturing in my head.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
No kidding. What's with Sam's hat?
The ones with Brahma's throne room and jet tubes look amazing, though.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
Sam looks like Galactus, who knew.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
I'm trying to find some new books for a friend, and I know he really loved the Magic Kingdom of Landover series by Terry Brooks. Hell, when I was a kid I really liked them too.

Are there any more recent/modern takes on that particular trope that have turned out well?

I guess this not-quite fish out of water fantasy thing, I'm not sure exactly what it is? I remember reading the Blue Adept series by P Anthony waaaaay back, and...ughhhh. I REALLY liked Dickson's Dragon Knight/Mage series when I was younger. Heinlein's Glory Road isn't the type of thing I'm looking for, though.

I think I read a series about some sort of modern engineer going back in time, but I can't remember what it was called. That's besides the point, though.

Any thoughts?

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

The Guardians of the Flame series by Joel Rosenberg has the normal people brought into fantasyland and using their knowledge to their advantage, though it should come with a trigger warning iirc, though not so much in the first book. I can't exactly attest to quality, though.

Also I think you might be referring to A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Victorkm posted:

The Guardians of the Flame series by Joel Rosenberg has the normal people brought into fantasyland and using their knowledge to their advantage, though it should come with a trigger warning iirc, though not so much in the first book. I can't exactly attest to quality, though.

Also I think you might be referring to A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

Nah, it was the Stargard Cross-Time Engineer series. Have yet to read them, but they're around somewhere. I think my dad had them when I was a kid - never read 'em.

Thanks for the suggestion by Rosenberg. Anything that brings up the term 'gamer' makes me a little wary, but I'll definitely pass it along and let them decide. I may read the first book myself just to see how it I find it. Sounds like it could be interesting.

I suppose books like the Narnia stuff or Fionavar Tapestry kinda fit the bill, too. But Fionavar is more a one off adventure than an 'I'm building a life here' and I just never liked Narnia things much.

NinjaDebugger
Apr 22, 2008


Drifter posted:

I'm trying to find some new books for a friend, and I know he really loved the Magic Kingdom of Landover series by Terry Brooks. Hell, when I was a kid I really liked them too.

Are there any more recent/modern takes on that particular trope that have turned out well?

I guess this not-quite fish out of water fantasy thing, I'm not sure exactly what it is? I remember reading the Blue Adept series by P Anthony waaaaay back, and...ughhhh. I REALLY liked Dickson's Dragon Knight/Mage series when I was younger. Heinlein's Glory Road isn't the type of thing I'm looking for, though.

I think I read a series about some sort of modern engineer going back in time, but I can't remember what it was called. That's besides the point, though.

Any thoughts?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct....96782255,d.cGU

The Cross Time Engineer seems like-and you just posted about it. Awesome.

Seconding Guardians of the Flame, a number of people love and/or hate The Magicians, by Lev Grossman, and its sequels, which is half Harry Potter, half Narnia, and half Game of Thrones (the bad half). He liked Landover, so there's a fair chance he'd also like the Spearwielder Tales, by R.A. Salvatore, which is almost exactly the same thing, except with spear and magic helmet instead of castle and magic knight.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
You could try Stasheff's The Warlock In Spite of Himself which does the whole "sufficiently advanced technology indistinguishable from magic given a primitive audience" thing. I remember rather enjoying it about, uh, fifteen years ago. Apparently there are sequels but can't vouch for those.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

The Guardians of the Flame series does kind of phbbbbbt out after the first three (some people say four) books, but it's fun up until then.

For a different take on the idea, Orson Scott Card's Enchantment has a character who's a super-athletic marathon runner transported back to the 10th century -- where everyone sneers at him because real men are squat musclemen who can carry the weight of weapons and armor.

occamsnailfile
Nov 4, 2007



zamtrios so lonely
Grimey Drawer
The concept is often called a "Portal Fantasy" in that a hero from our own world goes through a portal to somewhere magical. http://bestfantasybooks.com/portal-fantasy.html has a list though as you can see from that there's a lot of variation that still meets those basic requirements. The 1632 series is alt-history but definitely involves using modern ideas in a medieval time period. I guess it's different from Cross-Time Engineer in that it uses an ensemble cast rather than focusing on a central character.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Drifter posted:

Nah, it was the Stargard Cross-Time Engineer series. Have yet to read them, but they're around somewhere. I think my dad had them when I was a kid - never read 'em.

They aren't particularly well-written and there's a lot of sex with underaged girls that is kiiiinda creepy.

On the other hand, the parts that are about establishing a modern economic and industrial base in medieval Poland are fun.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Kalman posted:

They aren't particularly well-written and there's a lot of sex with underaged girls that is kiiiinda creepy.

On the other hand, the parts that are about establishing a modern economic and industrial base in medieval Poland are fun.
Haha. I grew up reading Xanth and George A rar'Martin, so I'm pretty inured to shittily written sex. Easy to skip as long as there's not too much of it. I've been looking at reviews and they say pretty much what you've said - interesting stuff technology and engineer-wise, but some kinda weird and bad mary sue and sexual powerfantasy stuff, too.

occamsnailfile posted:

The concept is often called a "Portal Fantasy" in that a hero from our own world goes through a portal to somewhere magical. http://bestfantasybooks.com/portal-fantasy.html has a list though as you can see from that there's a lot of variation that still meets those basic requirements. The 1632 series is alt-history but definitely involves using modern ideas in a medieval time period. I guess it's different from Cross-Time Engineer in that it uses an ensemble cast rather than focusing on a central character.
1632 is an Eric Flint joint, no? You guys have kinda conditioned me away from his stuff. A nice review score at goodreads, but is it decent?
Ah, thanks. I had kinda figured it would be somewhat portal/crossworld related, but it's good to get confirmation on the name/type. This link of yours will certainly help get me started. It's not what I'm looking for, but Ryk E Spoor's Grand Central Arena is one heck of aride.


And, whoa, I hadn't realized Stasheff wrote his warlock books in the 70s. drat. :corsair: The summary seems interesting. That Enchantment by Card sounds weird - but I did like his Ender's Game and Worthing Saga stuff. I'll pass that along.

Drifter fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jun 24, 2015

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occamsnailfile
Nov 4, 2007



zamtrios so lonely
Grimey Drawer
Eric Flint is on the more tolerable end of the silly mil-sf stuff for me. It's probably the heavy emphasis on the working class parts of the fantasy world--dude's a hardcore socialist but the 1632 books are mostly about the greatness of 'murica in the 1600s. It is very much in that kind of patriotic spreading-democracy-and-freedom kind of a vein but when I want to read the equivalent of a dumb action movie that is one of the series I will take a look at. It helps that I actually like it when books talk at length about their engineering projects, most of the time, these definitely do that.

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